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Agree, don't Feed the guy. Ignore.

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*****, bite your damned tongue

"Won't happen again, I promise"

You create the tautology by equating "fewer YPC" with "less effective as a player" then asserting that any statistics showing he's got the former proves the latter. But that does not follow: 1) Beasley could be assigned to run shorter crossing routes, where the ball can come out quicker, meaning fewer YPC 2) Beasley could run the same intermediate crossing routes, but be less effective at running them 3) either way, OL pass protection, Allen reading the defense, and throwing accurate catchable balls are all factors beyond Beasley's control The bottom line is that defenses have been playing the Bills differently, so there are a lot of factors beyond "Beasley is less effective" in play. You were talking to me. You said "Do you really think if Beas was just as good at getting open in 2021, the coaches would give him poorer/shorter routes because of his insufferable personality? That's insane, to me, but you do you.". That's pretty clearly directed at me, and that implies I, personally, have been arguing that POV. That's a classic Straw Man since I haven't. Own it, and Do Better. If you want to contend it was generally intended for the board, then it's "on you" to be clearer about your intent in how you write. But again, that doesn't follow. Beasley has a different role than the other receivers - to be the quick outlet under pressure. If Allen can throw to other receivers who are open deeper when he has time, but can't hit a crosser at intermediate depth for Beasley, that can be specific to Beasley - see points 1-3 above. But the point remains, there are multiple possible reasons for Beasley having shorter YPC this season and being less effective at his route running is only one of them. You also stated: I'm still awaiting your data or link to data showing this. And no, I'm not trusting your eyes.

It's being quoted that way, but again, if you listen to the actual interview, he's talking about his feet and saying his feet get cold and lose feeling. This isn't new, he said the same thing in an episode of Marc Sanchez "4th and Forever" podcast in the 2020 off-season. Allen played in Wyoming, FCS. He can throw in cold weather. The question I have is whether the cold is pickling the brains of his WR who can't seem to get on the same page on their option routes.

I think my mind is just fine, Thank you.

I offered facts: a breakdown of Beasley's YBC vs YAC 2020 vs 2021 As for why the drop has occurred, we can all speculate, but where the drop is, is a fact - and it's also a fact that absent evidence, it can't be said whether it's on Cole for not getting open on those deeper crossers, the Bills for not using those routes as much, some of both - whatever. A number of things are different for the Bills this year, including how defenses are playing them and our OL (in some games, not giving Josh much time) You mean the ones I presented, which you failed to acknowledge and called "a hypothesis"? This is a total straw man. I've said nothing about Cole's personality here, much less offered that as a reason for a drop in his YBC. Yes, you did, and I pointed out a more detailed breakdown in metrics from Pro Football Reference, which shoes that the major drop is in YBC - which leads most sane fans to the conclusion more info is needed before concluding the drop is "on Cole". Could be on Bease, or could be on play design and the routes he's being asked to run - the Bills were noted for running deep crossers last season. And Cole has always been a guy who takes time to find gaps in the zone work himself open. Oh and by the way...we do realize that Beasley could be asked to run shorter routes more often, or targeted on them more often, while different players are asked to run different routes, so we really can't conclude anything from looking at YBC/YAC stats for other receivers? Again, no one I've seen is hypothesizing the bolded. That's entirely your made up man o straw, and if you keep it up, I predict that people will ignore you in droves (starting with me) because no one wants to try to have a discussion with guy who pulls this "do you really think...." followed by some argument they weren't at all advancing. As for the latter, I await your link to the data showing that the Bills are facing more man coverage this year, because I don't think that's the case. As far as I can tell, they're facing more 2 deep zone where teams are rushing 4 and leaving 5 to blanket the middle of the field - often featuring disguised coverage, stunts, and shifts post-snap so that one side of the line is overloaded while the other side is exposed to the run (but we weren't running).

Yeah, or as was said at the time of the 49ers game last year, the one who makes opposing DC's throw their clipboard across the room yelling "That ***** Guy"

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Got It, Thanks. WTF is up with the miscommunication? Used to be a strength.

I also think it's highly bogus to compare a game from 2018, 2 from 2019, and 2 from the 2021 season. I mean, whatever floats their boat, but....

Fun YPP thing His prediction of Allen's season: Actual: 409 of 646 for 63.3% completion 4407 yds 36 TD 15 INT 26 sack for 164 yds 6.9 AY/A 122 rushes for 763 yds 6 TDs Basically, right on the % of completions but larger # of attempts giving lower completion % Actually had about 100 more total yards (more rush yards, fewer pass yards) 42 total TD vs predicted 44 total TD so 2 fewer TD By the way, can you help me find said breakdown of those three plays by YPP on Twitter? I had a good 'ol try and could not find. Edit: one to Knox above, need 2 more

I hadn't thought about that. Wrong

A dome would fix miscommunication between WR and QB on option routes, how?

He's not getting thrown to on those deeper crossers. What I haven't been able to tease out (with the demise of decent Gamepass) is whether that's because those routes have been pulled from the gameplan, whether he's running them and not getting open, or whether Josh isn't getting time to find him on those routes? Have you been able to watch enough to chart routes? I agree that when I saw McKenzie playing in the 2nd Pats game the speed was a bit eyeball popping to me like "whoah, where has that been?"

In order to tell if that's on Beasley, or on the routes he's being asked to run/depth of target, you (and Football outsiders) would need to take the rudimentary step of looking at Beasley's YBC and YAC. If one does this, one observes that while his YAC has fallen by 0.6 yds/reception, that would only account for a 49 yd decrease in yardage. Most of Beasley's yardage drop is accounted for by his YBC, which has plummeted from 7.5 to 4.7. This would tend to indicate that the fall in yardage is due to the routes he's being asked to run/being targeted on and not necessarily a decline in his level of play Don't bother yourself with facts when referencing "Truthers" though.

Damn straight this is up for debate. McKenzie has more speed. Whether that leads to more separation depends upon whether it's man or zone coverage. Man: McKenzie. Zone: Beasley has a PhD in dissecting zone. He is the zone Master. McKenzie had a fantastic game against NE with many clutch catches, but has also alligator armed some. Beasley has a 3 year history of clutch catches.

The question was for insight here on why Kubiak seems to feel there was miscommunication involved on the incompletions. "Allen played terrible" is just a knee-jerk useless broad statement, I'm sure you can find other threads for that level of contribution. So then the question is, why does it keep happening and what can be done to fix it?

https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/jim-kubiak-how-naked-bootleg-play-action-passes-got-allen-bills-offense-back-on-track/article_04dccb1c-7277-11ec-a448-2b3fd47e880f.html TBN, paywall. I'll say again that at the special intro price, this is IMO great value. Excerpts: Overall summary: I think that's an important point that isn't sufficiently emphasized. Salah was to some extent conducting a coaching job interview. This is a division game. Has he got what it takes to help the Jets contend within the division? The Jets weren't lying down or heading for the bus, they were coached well and playing hard. Kubiak gives Josh just props for his play in the first 2 quarters. But he has this to say about the 3rd Q: Wondering if anyone here can comment on the possible "miscommunications", and what these plays looked like?

Keep in mind where Josh played in college. He knows something about playing in cold weather. He said the same thing a couple years ago (summer of 2020 I think) on "4th and Forever" podcast with Mark Sanchez. It's his feet that get cold, not overall poor circulation. I wish he wouldn't have said it before playing the Patriots, now Belichick is going to have his evil minions stomping on Josh's poor little feet every play.

He’s been scored as having 4 drops total on 45 targets, so Yes. It may look like more because in the sampling I’ve seen, Mac Jones does seem to expect (and receive) circus catches from his guys on a pretty regular basis.

He had a couple of penalties. Holding I think.

I don’t know what Jonnu’s issues may be but he made an absolute CIRCUS catch for Mac in the first Buffalo game

Wat? The Dolphins won 7 of their last 8. Tua looked pretty confident there.