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I read somewhere that he has a Beastmode running style.

Moss or Hall?

Somehow we are being messed with. Here is the screenshot I made to post. Maybe the scores of a DE vs. a DT?

A tackle that made some noise. Two big boys coming together.

One way to assess value is to quantify what anyone is willing to pay for it. The value of Diggs = #1, #5, #6 and future #4. You made the comparison. In today's NFL WR are more valuable, you said. Well, they paid 22, 155, 207 and ~140 (2021) which is about 48.3 on the Rich Hill chart. Picks 54 and 86 are 18.0 and 8.6 on the chart, respectively. Diggs will cost ~11 million in cap space and the hypothetical rookie at 54 or 86 is less than 1.5 million. So, the cost of acquisition is no where near equal. What is the same are the reasons for doing it. Adding elite offensive play making talent for the 2020 season which is in the window of a QB on his first contract. This has been a stated priority of Beane and McDermott all off season. Scoring more points in 2020.

I left to look at the numbers. Jackson is 42 + 12 = 54. Josh is 30 + 17 = 47. I'll take lies told about Josh Allen for $800, Alex.

I didn't say he would be. Just that all the reasons that made spending 1, 5 and 6 along with a 4 next year to get Diggs would apply to spending a 2 or 3 on a rb in this draft. See the inbalance in what would be spent to acquire them? Pretty much "nowhere near the value."

There are some who are very against a RB at 2 or 3. Let me make the case in a different way. The rationale for the Stefon Diggs trade was given as filling a roster need for WR1 with an established offensive playmaking talent ready to make an immediate impact on the 2020 season. If you accept that reasoning, it would all apply to a top RB talent in this draft. Rookie RBs are known to be early contributors as pros. Without otas, rookie minicamp and with a possibly shortened training camp, the chance for a rookie to make an impact at other positions would be even more diminished, relatively speaking. They want to add offensive playmaking talent to make the biggest bang for the buck impact starting in 2020. They want to gain the lead and burn the clock to close the deal. They want another option besides Josh to be a between the tackles power runner in short yardage situations. Passing game skills are huge as well and a RB with all-around potential would be great to combine with what Singletary offers.

That would boost the offense in obvious ways.

Dugger is 24 and Chinn is 22. That is a big consideration when comparing prospects in any sport.

I think you make the wrong point about Gurley. He was probably their best offensive player in 2017 and 2018 when he scored 40 tds and had almost 4000 yds from scrimmage. His knee problems at the end of 2018 really hurt their Superbowl chances. If he had shared the load more those years maybe he doesn't break down at the end. He was a huge reason why they got there and their offense hasn't been the same since.

Edmunds was a top 5 pick on many boards and wasn't even 20 years old yet. So, the price to get him at 16 was a chance well taken. Acquire draft capital, properly assign value and recognize when that value far exceeds the draft position. That's the process. Trust that they can manage it well. When the history of this draft is written, it will probably be forgotten that the Diggs trade was essentially a trade up. So the trend has already continued as others have said.

To be fair, Joe mentioned agents not teams. Reminiscent of the music industry payola of the 1950s.

He toasted UB for 8/174/2. I did not see it and suspect it was not televised.

I consulted with the spirit of Vizzini to come to this: Clearly, there is only one position group with an obvious opening and that is RB. Brandon Beane made a point of saying that they had confidence in Yeldon as RB2 and we know that Brandon can't allow himself to lie to the press and fans due to his Christian/Boy Scout character. Thus, he masks his intentions in an blizzard of honest comments but he withholds some. So what is the missing truth? Would they go into 2020 with Yeldon as the primary backup to Devin? Inconceivable! They want to upgrade the offense, add more playmaking talent, score more points, spread the RB workload, add to the positional depth and add a bigger bodied talent that can get tough yards. Doing so on a cheaper rookie deal for four years makes the most sense. The missing truth is that they want an RB1A or RB1B and it's not TJ Yeldon. Clearly, since there was no FA signing and we know that Beane likes to initially fill such holes with a FA signing, they have hopes to fill this spot via the draft and are hoping for a talent the equal of or better than Singletary to make it to within their striking distance. A true downhill runner who qualifies as a legit playmaker. This implies a 2nd or 3rd round pick, imo, and they likely have players targeted at both spots. Given the decline in RB draft status, it's likely that such a top talent could fall to a spot where they could conceivably go up and get him. So, my prediction is RB in round 2 or in round 3 with a trade up involved. If the guy they want makes it to 45ish or 75ish, they would not chance letting him get drafted by someone else. So.... Taylor in the 2nd or Akers in the 3rd.

I had never seen that camera angle before. Nice. Josh could stiff arm a T-Rex. I am sure someone skilled enough could photoshop that. It'd look good on a t-shirt, I think.

Jim Webb is and he got no run in either party. Or take the bpa, best punter available. Probably a good chance to be better than Bojo or so I am told.

Two areas to judge progress apart from supporting cast are ball security and giving his receivers a shot on deep balls. Those are almost 100% on him. I'd argue he got better on the ints after 1st Pats game but he's got to realize that when he is running with it the D is going after the ball because his size and upright style leaves it exposed. That crazy pitch was beyond reckless. He started hitting more deep throws late in the year. Brown vs Steelers, Broncos and Pats, Knox vs. Ravens and Pats, Beasley vs Ravens (dropped.) Like I said, it's on totally on him to be consistently better in those areas and it will be obvious to all of us if he is or not.

There is often a spy there.

I won't confuse my short term happiness with long term success but getting an elite all-around talent at RB, a DB to add to the mix and a rotation worthy DE would be pleasing.

I'd laugh too except the joke is on us now.

Question. How fair (or accurate) is this video compilation as an example of an inherent Josh Allen inaccuracy? I think 6 to 10 of these clips, apparently hand picked by Cian Fahey, show something other than what he claims. Sure there are some legit misses mixed in there. Every QB has them. I think it's more a case of a reputation becomes a generalization becomes an exaggeration. Fahey claims to be measuring something that most of his exhibit A video does not support. Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy work that brings his conclusion into question, imo. At least he spent the time to gather these up and put them in one 2 minute video which makes it easier to scrutinize. I wonder what most of us thought of these plays when we saw them live. I'd bet we were mostly wrong. I might try to go back to the gdt's and see who was freaking out. There were many like ScottLaw saying that they saw a bunch of bad throws compromised by bad mechanics of one kind or another. So, I decided to start posting these screenshots. The end.

A couple more vs. "Phins and Steelers but I'll stop if that makes some feel better. Just don't buy what Cian Fahey is trying to sell. Whatever you might want to measure Josh's accuracy at, it is a higher number than Cian's.

At :49 seconds #42 of the Browns, Karl Joseph, who looked to have been spying on Josh, quickly rushes around the end and leaps to tip the ball. Once again an altered throw which says nothing about accuracy. Sorry, it didn't let the photo post. Fixed, I had to save as a jpeg.

At 44 seconds vs. Pats, Butler and Hightower run a twist, Spain tries to pass Hightower off to Morse and take Butler but Hightower has already split the gap. He gets to within 2 feet of Josh (i.e. in his grill) with his arm extending up and toward where Josh's arm will be. I don't actually see the contact because of the camera angle but can we assume it happened based on how Josh's body acted afterward? We never see his right arm follow through so something stopped it.