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I'm certainly not an expert on the rules or the reasons for them but some of these might have long-lasting effects while others might not last beyond the day they are taken.

It appears that he thinks so too.

I recently came across the endzone view of the throw at :37. The takeaway for me is this. Every time that someone is all worked up about some errant throw that Josh makes and wants to crap all over his accuracy, consider taking a closer look. His reputation is often the only explanation that some will ever need and they are not inclined to search any further. I suspect Josh's throws may be more velnerable toward tips like this. His arm strength means he can wait a beat longer but it gives the defenders a little more time to step into his throwing lane and try to time the jump. They are tough to see at normal play speed.

Given the contract Tony Romo just got, I'd think Fitz should really consider that for his next gig. I think he'd kill that role just like he did the FJ roast. Given the cities he's played in, the players and coaches he's gotten to know, the nice rapport he has had with the press and fans and his overall good will reputation throughout the league, he'd maybe be even better at it than Romo.

The next Fitzscream! Hopefully not on 9/20.

He looks like he's about to raid the federal Arsenal at Harper's Ferry.

Some reports said he failed it. Maybe that's just an assumption since he was arrested.

Maybe it's been addressed in this thread but does that video look like a failed field sobriety test? Those that know more can weigh in but at 9PM, after bouncing around in a dune buggy all day and at 280+ lbs. I thought he did ok. At my best I'd do about the same (50+ and 40+lbs. overweight) and the only drinking I do is part of the free wine samples at Olive Garden.

I suspect there was too much variance in the type of pass he could choose to throw. Add in windy conditions and he would have even more reasons to vary the kind of deep ball he chooses to throw. Because his arm is so strong he can vary the launch angle and velocity so there are multiple ways to get the ball 60 yards down the field. Many QBs can only get it there one way, max velocity at the optimum angle.

I think most who like their combine numbers do not run at their proday. Those who did not post a time at the combine that they feel is their best effort are rather anxious to improve upon them at their proday. Both Epenesa and Moss were denied the chance to do just that and if they had they likely would not be Bills.

I know that it's an attempt to be happier post Christmas with the gifts you got rather than what you thought you wanted but..... Let's compare him to Taylor, the homerun hitter. It's likely true that Zack blocks better, does more as a pass catcher, breaks more tackles and fumbles less than JT. If this is generally true, we'd all be quite pleased that he's a Bill. The bonus is that Epenesa is on the team too.

He is inclined to not give up on a play and he has a rare combo of size, power and athleticism that allows him to extend the play when it would have otherwise been over for most anyone else. That's when we hold our breath because something amazing/head scratching is likely to happen. To his credit, I think the last of the latter type happened in weeks 3 and 4. That is until the pitch attempt in Houston.

I sense we will be having some sort of argument about by which measure do we say he is "Top 10" or whatever. In fact, to be even having that debate would be a good sign. It is rare for the starting QB of a regular playoff contenting franchise not to be thought of as a top performer. That's the way it works. I think Josh will be at a minimum the equal of Joe Flacco as a passer. The other offscript, playmaking traits are mostly a bonus beyond what most other QBs offer but do get him in trouble at times as well. He is working his way up from the bottom and entering 2020 as about #20 or so but trending towards the top.

If they make that improvement in scoring, he'd be the biggest contributor to it. There'd be improvements in most all of the "individual" QB stats.

A "parody of an NFL QB prospect" simply would not be capable of performing that well in those situations. So most here would agree that he cleared that Barr too. Two areas that are 100% on him to improve upon. Ball security while on the move and under tackle and consistently giving his WRs a chance to make a play on the deep throws. We should be able to see if he improves in those areas rather easily. I think 400+ points would be a nice benchmark.

No RZ interceptions either. I think that's because when he can run it in from 20 yards and under, he doesn't feel the need to force the ball to get the TD. He is a good/great short yardage runner and he is good/great against nickel defenses with their backs turned. Those TD runs could be more TD throws but at the risk of likely more ints.

Some RBs take hits and others deliver them. I think he is more the latter. He seems to have good to great vision, get very low prior to contact, protect the ball and maintain his balance after delivering the blow, sometimes with a Kenny Davis "Texas Twister" type spin move. He should rarely be tackled for a loss. He has a leverage advantage on taller LBs and a momentum advantage (m * v) on most DBs who might choose to step into his path. Assuming they are a successful duo, and they just might be all that, I wonder what such a pair would be worth on their second contracts. If they split the work load they may be viable talents through a second contract and do generally great things for the Bills offense in all situations. So, it is considered foolish to pay a RB Todd Gurley or Zeke Elliott contracts but what does Brandon Beane pay each half of a highly effective pairing? I hope we get to see in the next few years.

How much more of a "project" is he? Josh Rosen was the consensus "most pro ready" QB of the 2018 draft. How is that project going? Is Sam Darnold closer to being a finished product? Is that project further along?

It's more than 1 per game. Closer to 2.

Since Knox and Singletary were big contributors to this my answer is no. They were so underutilized as pass catchers in their college careers that it was entirely predictable. They also showed some real after catch ability that makes you think they could be key parts of a dynamic offense.

I think it's fair to say that there is a nonzero chance Josh has a Trubisky like 3rd year. What that probability is I do not know. I think he will do everything he can to get them wins whether he improves as a passer or not. This does make a difference. It's something Josh has that many others do not.

To say that something has yet to happen is much different than saying it won't or can't. Many detractors speak that way of Josh. Most here do not. In this case I was making note that Billl used "yet" whereas earlier he suggested that an NFL team shouldn't want him to be their QB.

Josh tended to throw "past the sticks" on third down. Drops on third down that would have been a first down would be like a mini turnover. There will still be a punt but it has the same net effect as an int 40 yds downfield. I'd suspect that Josh leads this metric based on lost possessions, first downs that would have been, and how that translates into lost points. At some point during the off-season Coach McDermott mentioned needing receivers that catch the ball. I'd bet the Bills analytics staff had some similar measurements that were in Sean"s mind when he said that.

Yet. The best choice of words you have made. Any of us who are happy to have Josh as a Bill think in those terms. "Yet" implies there is more to come. Something that could be great.

It seems to be that the question was even asked. Darnold or Mayfield could have been the comparison. They are in a similar place.