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I picked the throw to Cook. Some QBs would need to come to more of a stop and square their hips to make that throw to even a stationary target. That lets the pursuing defender close and maybe affect the play. Josh makes that throw without slowing down, side arms it like a shortstop to first base but Cook is moving to the right and Josh hits him in his chest. Don't see many throws like that even attempted.

Add ball security to the mix.

No point to doing that unless they were to keep 3 QBs on the 53. No late round rookie is going to be Josh's primary backup, imo.

Except if there is a strong prevailing wind and you want it for the fourth quarter.

Rookie year @ Minnesota vibes.

So many times a great player is capable of doing something that a defender can't anticipate. It was an overthrow for most all NFL WRs. A DB with eyes on the ball would not even read Jefferson getting a hand to it. It's like all those defenders taking bad angles on Josh and whiffing on the tackle. They misread the threat.

Watch Mack Hollins on the play. Looks like he is calling a TD when Josh hits the 15.

Both recent losses to the Bengals were more about their defense, imo.

A classic from other years: Tua needs an "n" to make his name aquatic squish the Tuna fish Now an attempted rework: Tua needs an "h" to give his name more meaning Bills ballhawk Tuah

Ok. Entering the draft as a premium talent and play well in your rookie NFL season in a major sports media market vs. being an under the radar, day 2 or 3 pick that makes the starting lineup in year 2 or 3. Which brings to mind the Mark Twain quote often used by Marv Levy:

Sorry, but this is right up there with "the Bills need to lose more often to NFC teams" to improve their playoff seeding.

I like how Josh slipped in the fact that he made the tackle after the interception. I saw you Josh and I bet you will point that out loudly in the film review too. Flashback to rookie year Josh Allen week 17 vs. the Dolphins. Josh had a 5 TD game, Kyle Williams got to catch a pass and Josh got fooled by a robber coverage for a pick 6 TD just before halftime, one of two for his career (can't remember the other one.) The thing about it was that Josh made the tackle attempt on that play with an all too serious karate chop at the ball. He does those moves in practices too and I think he will get one out at some point in his career or damage the defender trying, ala Jim Kelly. The fastest I ever saw Jim move was when he was chasing down an interception return.

That's 5 road games out of their 8 played too.

Gary Anderson was drafted by the Bills. He had played at Syracuse and I read a story somewhere, likely at TBD, that he had missed his preseason kicks on purpose to get the Bills to release him and then he could find his own career opportunity. That's a power move if true and it fits that agents often tell their clients that it is better to be a UDFA where you can pick the situation you think is best for your career even though being drafted is an ego boost.

In a desperation move, Tyler should have his vision checked, ala Ricky Vaughn. I was developing astigmatism in my later teens and did not know it. Regular vision checks were not a thing then and maybe not now. I could hit fastballs again with corrected vision. Maybe Tyler is randomly missing the sweet spot between foot and ball.

An official was standing over the ball waiting for a ready signal from the referee as the play clock expired. Shades of Rex Ryan Bills in Seattle.

Nice. I am waiting for the day when Josh over with these. Over with what you might ask? Deez nuts are over Rated!

I think this group of pass catchers will have a lower drop% and more RAC yards than any Josh has played with before. But, they will not get much credit for being better as there won't be any pushing for league wide accolades. Our world is conditioned to respect greatness and to connect it with stardom.

Not likely an underhanded spiraling pass could look like an NFL punt. I've seen many high school games and many punts in them that looked like that throw.

I agree with this. Also, given the schedule, he has a chance to outshine Mahomes, Jackson, Stroud, Stafford, Purdy, Murray, Lawrence, Goff, Herbert, Rodgers(2X) and Tua (2X) in head to head matchups. The visual of having a decent record and beating most of those teams would make a powerful case for him.

That must be someone that overvalues robotic QB play.

The Athletic just published a tier ranking of 30 NFL QBs (rookies are excluded) as determined from a composite tier ranking of 50 NFL coaches and executives. Josh was in Tier 1, as expected, but his composite score was 1.2 which means approximately 10 of the 50 would have had him in Tier 2, but below Joe Burrow. This is interesting in that one might consider the profile of those choosing Tier 2. Josh is something of a loose cannon at times and there would be those that are scared by that and might consider it a flaw. Anyways, this brings me to the Pro Football Reference side by side comparison of Josh and Patrick over their last 4 years which was something I wanted to present to previous discussions. Big difference in YAC favoring Patrick and rushing yards/TDs favoring Josh. Lots to consider there. One can isolate regular season or post season numbers. YAC is the biggest difference, imo, as it is a difference of over 3,000 yards. It makes me wonder if the WR room was more reconstructed with an eye toward improving the YAC in the offense. This is something we haven't seen much evidence of at this point, but it might be the secret sauce to a Bills offensive improvement over previous years. Pro Football Reference Josh vs. Patrick --Years 2020 thru 2023

Warren Sharp has a nice reputation but I would want to know 1) Are the Bills worse in the RZ than average? 2) Are the Bills worse in 1st and goal situations than average? 3) How does Josh's success running the ball in these situations negatively impact his EPA as a passer? More TDs running means less TDs passing and that has to impact EPA. But, by how much? Quantify it then tell me about about your conclusion. 4) I suspect that QBR trumps passing EPA in this regard. I do not know if that split exists but, if it does and he still ranks at the bottom, then ok, Warren has a point. If not, and QBR is near the middle or toward the top, I say BS on his conclusion.

1) I will quote the last line of my previous post: "We won't know what this group is until they play real games with QB1 running the show. This was to be the case regardless of what they did or did not do to overhaul the position." 2) So is Diggs. 3) As of the TB game last year, Shakir likely played 70+% of snaps. They gave him a bigger role last year and he produced. 4) In the tradition of John Brown, Cole Beasley and Robert Foster, I expect Curtis Samuel to play the best football of his NFL career in an offense run by Josh Allen. I think he is likely to out-produce Gabe Davis regardless of the value of the contracts they signed. 5) I don't think they planned on needing any of those guys. They had 2nd round athletic pedigrees and the Bills were hoping to improve the depth on their 53 and practice squad with them. Maybe one pops and earns a bigger gameday role, an opportunity likely generated by injury to someone else, and that's when they become needed but I do not think any one of them was counted on for a big role in the offense at signing. 6) Refer to answer #1.

This is a strange post to say they neglected the position and then list 4 things they did to address the position. You may not like what they did but there is no need to mischaracterize the steps they did take. Shakir was elevated last year starting with the Tampa Bay game and out performed Diggs and Davis in the process, Samuel was a priority as a free agent and got the biggest deal of the offseason and Coleman may have been the 8th taken but he may have been much higher on the Bills draft board which would make the 2 trade downs irrelevant. Giving a new chance to other "busts" to fill out the bottom of the group and maybe stash on the the practice squad or use on special teams is a smart, lower cost approach. I recall no advocates here for retaining Hardy, Sherfield or Davis for a $13M AAV cost. We won't know what this group is until they play real games with QB1 running the show. This was to be the case regardless of what they did or did not do to overhaul the position.