BillsfaninFl

Ah, but we are tied with three other winless teams. Give us a few more weeks to separate from the group.

The NFL needs no excuse to take the team away. That is a falacy. They can already point to a diminishing small market that has lost a significant amount of corporate presence. So not supporting the team does nothing that doesn't already exist. Furthermore, Wilson wouldn't move the team now, even if he could, because it is expensive up front and the payback comes over a period of several years. He may not have several years and there is no reason for him to kill the cash cow by investing additional money into it. For eleven years he has refused to invest any more into it than he has to. The fans don't realize they DO have some power. And Wilson has been trying his darndest to keep us from realizing it. It's time to wake up and take a stand.

Right on! Many of us knew this was coming since last winter, when it was time for Ralph Wilson to put his money where his mouth is. After that bull about paying top dollar for elite football guys, he sent the most emphatic message that it was all just spin, when he hired an old scout. That, and a series of moves that all shouted "cheap" and "I'm not really committed to winning," and still several fans believed. Well, those of you who continue to support the Bills are inadvertantly sending Wilson the message that he can continue to screw us without any consequences. So we have the team and staff we deserve. Geez, guys, if it looks like a fish and smells like a fish, chances are it's a fish. We can do something about it, but not if you still keep sending Wilson the money.

So if you are sold on Luck, why do you want him to play for a farm team? Shouldn't he have a chance in pro football?

Draft an owner.

Well said. The poster had the courage to say what he feels. He is not alone.

Does the question refer to winning one game after all these losses? If so, yes. Maybe soon. If the question asks if it is possible that the Bills will just have one win for the season, then no. Teams will get caught looking past the Bills and fail to get "up" for the game. The Bills will steal a couple.

To determine which fan is the most deluded. I vote for b stein 22.

It would depend on the circumstances. If the team were bought by an owner that truly wanted to build a winning team and a football-savy management, I would continue to support them no matter where they were. In any case, I would not stop watching pro football. That would be like punishing myself.

It has been mostly low points while I have followed the Bills for their entire existence. But if I must choose between them, the latest string has got me down more than in the past. It has to do with the period of time and the prospects for the future. A few bad seasons were disheartening, but there was always hope and eventually they would come back to respectability. This time is different. They have "fallen and they can't get up." And I have no hope that they will return to respectability as long as that cheap bas---d owns the team. And since the odds are that they will move when they are sold, what is there to look forward to? So I cling to the remote chance that a white knight will buy the team and keep it in Buffalo. It's like thinking the only way I can pay my bills is if I win the lottery. There's no way! By the way, I moved out of Buffalo 25 years ago, but it is still "home" in my heart. And I feel strongly that the people of western New York deserve a break.

Not to worry. Trent never understood the playbook anyway.

We might have three passes over 20 yards, instead of two.

Time to beat up on Fitz. I don't like his beard.

This is really sad. You guys are talking draft picks even earlier than last year. When the planets line up and lightning strikes and the ball bounces our way and we steal a game, the kool aid drinkers will announce that the team is improving and the future is bright. After the following game, when they go down in flames again, is the time to start talking about next year's draft.

Actually, he was making less than several players on the Bills' squad. He was a low paid QB. I agree with C.Biscuit. Edwards was one of those guys who looks really good in training camp, then flops when the lights go on. I think each year the coaches were thinking, "okay, now he gets it." But he loses his nerve in the real games.

Well, as I read these posts I see that our expectations are now so low that any competitive showing by the offense or the defense brings satisfaction. I caught myself telling my son at the end of the game, "that was the best game the offense has played in almost a year." When teams beat us in low scoring games, it will be "the defense did their job, today," when the reality may be that the other team knew they could sit on a small lead and get the win. Ralph, I've got thirty-two dollars in my wallet. I'll mail it to you. Don't bother sending a thank you card.

It's not that Stupar and Nelson are bad, or that Hernandez and Gronkowski are so good. If all four switched teams, you would be saying that Stupar and Nelson are talented. It's because on the Bills, players are surrounded by mediocre talent and mediocre coaches. Except for Ralph Wilson bringing in a fading Terrell Owens to appease a fan revolt, how many stars have the Bills acquired in free agency during the last decade? None. They were all cheap dates. Good players who were no longer very good, or practice squad guys and career backups. Questionable drafts + no real free agency activity + bargain basement coaches and front office personnel = a bad team every year. The Bills are not rebuilding. They are what they will continue to be.

... and there will be peace on Earth. The Bills were entertaining on offense for the first time in almost a year. That much was true. But New England is a middle-of-the-road team until their young players learn their jobs. The Jets do not have Tom Brady, but they have a stronger overall team. They are not going to beat New England and Miami, then lay down for Buffalo.

You can't win an argument with people who are desperate. Bills fans (myself included) are desperate for something to have hope about: something to cheer about. The last decade (plus the present season) is one long nightmare. I have been very critical recently, because there is nothing to be positive about. Now I read these posts and see that guys are grabbing at any straw that might be an improvement in the staff and players' performance. Or they have become bitter and want to flush the whole organization down the toilet. It's not two groups with a huge difference of opinion. It's people who are dealing with their frustration in two different ways, but we all want the same thing. The Detroit season was an annomally. Even the worst teams win a few games. The Bills will win a few games and some will say they are improving. Others will say they just got lucky and still are the dormat of the league. All of us are brothers in pain.

Good bet. In fact, the Bills in 50 seasons have lost 38 more games than they won. And now they are off to a good start on what will be their 30th season without a winning record. How's that for ineptitude? So, your point is well taken. Wilson lucked out in the early 1960s and during the 1990s when he accidentally hired quality leadership without paying top dollar. Of course, he dumped those guys. The rest of those five decades were a comedy of errors. We're not laughing, but he is... all the way to the bank.

We have a winner! buffalo_bills started a post with "We competed for more than half of the game." Congratulations, deluded one. You win a commemorative plaque labeled "Delusional Dud." To pick up your prize, all you have to do is wait until the Bills win a Super Bowl, then rummage through the trash at the abandoned ruins of Ralph Wilson Stadium. So, you believe we were competing during the first quarter, with a total offense of 5 yards. Interesting. And since our only big gain was an interference penalty, you thought we were "in the game." Well, we all have our own perspective on things.

Yes. Ralph Wilson went to plan B when he turned 80 years old. Plan B is give us lip service, but suck every dime he can out of the franchise for the rest of his life. Just a case of geriatric greed gone wild. Only a fool would believe that this guy wants a Super Bowl win. He just wants to see a big bottom line on his financials when he draws his last breath.

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