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10th overall, 8th in points allowed, 3rd against the run (tied for 2nd in yards per attempt), tied for 4th in takeaways, and the longest rush they've given up on the season is 14 yards, which is best in the NFL. Lest anyone think about blaming the defense. Jim Schwartz has done a tremendous job.

Are you insane? I'm gonna have to take a hiatus from this site.

So you're saying he could very likely be worse than Manuel was today? I find that hard to believe.

I voted for Michael Vick because he's the best QB on that list.

Look, 8 out of 10 people on this board believe the jury is still out on EJ. 1 in 10 thinks it's over for him and 1 in 10 (see: 26CornerBlitz) is certain that he is destined for greatness. Count me among the 8. I would also venture to guess that of those 8, more than half of them are very skeptical. Count me among those as well. His inability to find his WR's is troubling to me. If that trend changes, I will be delighted. Nothing more needs to be said.

Did you watch the Broncos-Seahawks game on Sunday? You could safely say, "wow Peyton Manning brought them back." He was the reason that game went into OT. As nice and neat a game EJ had against the Jets at home last year, they win that game with Travis Brown, Alex Van Pelt, et al at QB. I want to see the Bills win a game or even stay in a game (see Fitz at New England 2012) BECAUSE of EJ Manuel.

To that point, does anyone else notice that Kyle Orton stands all alone the entire game and never talks to EJ? I was down low on the Bills side for each of the last two home games and it was almost awkward.

You're probably a good guy and we appear to be two grammar snobs but you are clearly incapable of carrying on an objective dialogue regarding who is clearly your favorite player. The wounded duck to TJ Graham that he underthrew by 20 yards against the Jets? Give me a break. That was a team victory. Please let me know when he has a game where he gets the WR's involved, throws for 300, 3 TD's and carries his team to a victory. Please. Believe me, I want it to happen as much as you do.

What's your grudge against Matt Stafford?

I would concur that he has shown very little. Through the first two games this season the consensus was that he looked "good enough." With possible exception of the Carolina game last year, give me one game where you said, "damn EJ looked good today." In 2010 I would say that Fitz looked fantastic at Baltimore and at Cincinnati just off the top of my head. There, that is substantive and substantiated for ya.

Thank you for the first type of response that I was intending to elicit.

Man I really did not intend for this to be an EJ thread. With respect to EJ though, my guess is that my take on him is pretty similar to the vast majority of Bills fans: the jury is still out, I am willing to ride it out a while but my gut is that it's not happening. If you think EJ has played at a level higher than Fitz played in say, 2010, you have lost your proverbial marbles. And PLEASE do not talk to me about their record that season. This is a vastly superior football team they have now.

Not an EJ sucks guy. I'm very skeptical but I need to see him hit his WR's and rely less on checkdowns (I realize it's cliché at this point). Two things are true: a) Ryan Fitzpatrick was not our long-term answer at QB and they did right thing by replacing him as their starter and b) EJ Manuel has yet to perform at the level that Fitzpatrick did for us from 2010-2012). The two are not mutually exclusive my friend. This had nothing to do with Manuel vs. Fitzpatrick ya strunz. I was looking to see peoples' feedback on the rankings in general.

Believe me he is. What do Edwards and Manuel seem to have in common? Can't get WR's real NFL numbers. Can't put up real NFL passing numbers. Fitz was able to do it. We have a top 5 WR corps in the league talent wise. There is no excuse for them not have real NFL numbers. Manuel is literally costing Woods and Mike Williams money on their next contracts as we speak. All that being said, I wouldn't trade Manuel for Fitzpatrick but today, Fitzpatrick is a better NFL QB. Actually it's not really that close.

Decided to power rank the starting qb's in the NFL. Well I should clarify- the 23 guys I deemed legitimate NFL starters. And understand this is not where I am ranking these guys as all-time qb's but rather who I would want as my qb this weekend. Have at it: 1. Manning 2. Brady 3. Rodgers 4. Brees 5. Wilson 6. Rivers 7. Ryan 8. Luck 9. Foles 10. Newton 11. Stafford 12. Roethlisberger 13. Romo 14. Cutler 15. Flacco 16. Dalton 17. A. Smith 18. Kaepernick 19. Cousins 20. Palmer 21. Eli 22. Hoyer 23. Fitzpatrick

Decided to power rank the starting qb's in the NFL. Well I should clarify- the 23 guys I deemed legitimate NFL starters. And understand this is not where I am ranking these guys as all-time qb's but rather who I would want as my qb this weekend. Have at it: 1. Manning 2. Brady 3. Rodgers 4. Brees 5. Wilson 6. Rivers 7. Ryan 8. Luck 9. Foles 10. Newton 11. Stafford 12. Roethlisberger 13. Romo 14. Cutler 15. Flacco 16. Dalton 17. A. Smith 18. Kaepernick 19. Cousins 20. Palmer 21. Eli 22. Hoyer 23. Fitzpatrick

Decided to power rank the starting qb's in the NFL. Well I should clarify- the 23 guys I deemed legitimate NFL starters. And understand this is not where I am ranking these guys as all-time qb's but rather who I would want as my qb this weekend. Have at it: 1. Manning 2. Brady 3. Rodgers 4. Brees 5. Wilson 6. Rivers 7. Ryan 8. Luck 9. Foles 10. Newton 11. Stafford 12. Roethlisberger 13. Romo 14. Cutler 15. Flacco 16. Dalton 17. A. Smith 18. Kaepernick 19. Cousins 20. Palmer 21. Eli 22. Hoyer 23. Fitzpatrick

Before the season I said that I expected for the bills to have fewer sacks but be vastly improved against the run. A trade off that I would gladly accept and one that would make them a more effective defense overall. So far so good.

quick list the last ten fourth round picks for the bills and tell me which one you wouldn't trade for a flier on a guy who had one of the best rookie seasons in the history of the NFL two years ago. Derek Fine? This board is so dumb sometimes.

Probably. I was just listing my aliases from my prank call days. Other callers i remember though are Eddie from the east side aka east side Eddie and of course, mr. negative.

I once saw Jim Brinson wearing the shortest purple short shorts you've ever seen at Lou Gehrig. Nice guy, meant well, kind of a dork. Art Wander is a whole nother conversation. If I had to think of one person who represented Buffalo, NY for the span of my childhood, it may very well have been him. He was so Buffalo it was outrageous. My friend converted our prank call tapes to Art Wander and Chuck Dickerson on GR to CD not too long ago. Some of them are classics. I had a reoccurring character named Mohammad from Pakistan and every time I called into Chuck Dickerson, I would speak with an outrageous Indian accent and tell him that I was a first time caller. And every time he would tell me I was crazy and that I had called in before and I would insist that I was a first time caller. There was Leroy from Depew, Clarence from Clarence, et al. Those were the good ol' days. We used to call into infomania and Pet Talk on the weekends as well.

Well stated.

Dude you gotta let go of the "IN" thing. It's over man. I can assure you that me seeing you write "IN" on every post is more annoying to me than you opening up a post that you think the moderators are going to close is to you. I promise you of this. Just please move on to the next thread if you are not interested.

Funny but he looked great on Sunday and very well could be our punter for a long time. It's early but I think Whaley may have found us a good one here.

Dude you are the man!