thewildrabbit

Bills fans have seen so much losing for the last 14 years, so they now have a preconceived conditioned response for failure. We will worry until TP or TG own the team. Just the way it is.

This road game at Chicago is out of the division, out of the conference, and not really that important in the grand scheme of things IMHO. Despite the 5 preseason games the QB doesn't look ready, nor do the receivers or O line. They could get blown out 45-3, and it won't matter as long as they get back up and beat those smelly fish Myself, I would put more importance on winning division games. If they are 4-4 by the bye week and have three wins in the division I'll be ecstatic, as It means they beat the Patriots

I can associate with someone getting so fed up with the past owner that they jump ship to a different team, and If I had moved to a different locale I might have done the same. It has been a very difficult 14 years, and knowing that the owner wasn't vested in winning over the team making a profit. His downright refusal to draft a QB with a first round pick, build a proper O line, hire a top NFL head coach. Lets hope the new owner wants to win as badly as the greatest NFL fans on earth

EJ needs to play to gain experience, to gain confidence, to learn how to read defenses, to learn from his mistakes. Will he have growing pains, heck yeah. But he needs to be out there! Ortin is there only as an emergency to save the season should EJ suffer a serious injury. Otherwise if this FO wasn't worried about wins they would still have Lewis, Tuel as backups. PS from what we have seen from this year preseason I only hope this new QB coach isn't screwing him up like with what happened to Fitz. Who regressed once Gailey brought in a supposed top QB coach.

I agree with this. A player considering retirement has already retired. I'd much rather see the Bills pick up Rex simply because he is the better player at this point.

The guy seriously sucks IMO, and lost his #2 backup position to Garoppolo this preseason. I think Belicheat thought he would be able to get another Matt Cassell deal from some team desperate for a QB, and he took a gamble and lost. I'm just grateful that the Bills didn't get him.

About Doug Whaley. I do believe the man knows the defensive side of the ball, and if we graded him solely on just that side he would get a solid - A . The minus part for the Justin Rodgers move. On the other side of the ball he could very well be trying to lean on Marrone's / Hackett's expertise or simply asking them to help with selections. Otherwise some of his moves have been very questionable. Nevertheless, Replacing Levitre for the 2013 season with Colin Brown-Sam Young at OG were both completely wasted roster spots, and both gone by week 6. Now this year Chris Williams to replace Levitre, really? Levitre ended his 2012 season with a grade at (+17.3), and Williams ended his season in St Louis with a grade of (-21.8) Which is actually worse then Legursky, and how he performs in Buffalo remains to be seen. The selection of Cyrus Kouandjio at #2 and Seantrel Henderson at #7 look like those two picks could be switched with Cujo not even making the roster or PS if he were the 7th rounder. It looks to me that some at OBD have no clue as to what they are looking at when it comes to the O line. Nix for certain had no clue about the QB position in passing over Colin Kaepernick, Russell Wilson, or even Andy Dalton when the team was desperate for a franchise guy. Then there is the issue with the punters, and why is it so difficult to find a decent punter? Two years now. The TE position keeps getting ignored or overlooked. Chandler might have led the team last year with 53 receptions. That ranking makes him the 60th best receiver, and 11th best TE. Now that wouldn't be so bad if the guy wasn't a liability on the field as a blocker. Then the WR position. No question the fan base loves Sammy Watkins, and he should give instant credibility to the receiving corps this year. But was he really worth a 2015 first round, and a 2015 4th rounder? Will he become a better player then Odell Beckham Jr taken by the NY Giants at #12 or better then Brandin Cooks taken by the Saints at #20, or better then Kelvin Benjamin taken by Carloina at #28. Should they have gone after the taller Mike Evans taken by Tampa at #7 or kept those picks, and gone after a TE instead? The big question is will EJ be able to make use of all that talent of Sammy's? I gotta say the torches will be lit, and pitchforks raised should Cleveland get the #1 overall from Buffalo next year...

Desperation seems appropriate. Cutting both backup QB's, and the punter a week before the season opener. This same front office. Last off season most fans were also bemoaning the replacements for LG Andy Levitre, and those two were cut after week six. The defense had an equal opportunity screw up with backup CB Justin Rodgers who basically lost a single game all by himself, who was also outright cut. This is like Jauron firing his OC two weeks before the opener. Cutting his starting RT because he couldn't get to the line quickly enough for the team to run the no huddle, and then scrapping the no huddle after a few games. This is like Gailey naming a starting QB in preseason, allowing him the majority of the reps all thru training camp and then cutting him after two regular season games. The backup QB's didn't get enough reps, and the result was an 0-8 start. So, while Orton might have more then just the three days given Jordan Palmer... I still suspect he will have great difficulty in being up to par with running the offense if he needs to make a start soon. I wouldn't be shocked to see a performance worse the Palmer's as I've seen what happens to backups who don't get enough reps. This guy can't possibly know the play call terminology, have any timing down with the receivers, or be able to run more then a handful of simple plays of hand offs to the RB's. Who knows what to expect from the two punters recently added, another Shawn Powell performance only to be cut after the Cleveland game? I suppose one can say better late then never for Tuel, Lewis, TJ Graham, Legursky experiments. But then, why were they brought in, or drafted in the first place? All these mistakes the last two years just reminds me of the moves of previous lame coaching staffs. While this off season I heartily applaud the additions of a QB coach, a senior offensive assistant. The drafting of the three O linemen, and the fact that the Bills may have found a diamond in the 7th round for the RT position. I also question the LG & RG positions, and how long will it take to actually upgrade to potential decent long term starters. Cyril Richardson might defy the odds of a 5th rounder and become a viable starter. That still leaves the hole that is still there since Levitre left last off season. After watching the embarrassment of this years preseason games I'm at a loss as what to expect from this team in the opening game. I can honestly say I don't if Bills OC Nate Hackett really has everything under control, and will shock us with play calling that makes first downs, and puts his players into positions to make plays. If the O line actually give the RB's some holes to run thru, and will they manage to protect the QB long enough to allow him to make some down field throws. Will the QB be in sync with the receivers enough to complete those throws. Will this years version of the hurry up offense become more then the "hurry up and punt offense" of last year? The defensive side of the ball should be fine, and we can expect to see a top ten unit. That is of course if the offense can stay on the field and finish drives. So that the defensive unit doesn't need to be on the field the majority of the game, and become worn down by the 4th quarter. Hey, at least the FO recognized they had flaws, and although some of these moves happened a bit late in the off season. All I can do as a Bills fan is hope it all works out, and this years team wins more games then it loses.

He will fit right in.

welcome to the board rfk. Yeah, If this team continues to play so poorly on offense I highly doubt this team finishes this season with all the same coaches intact.

It should be Pears at RG. But for how long it remains to be seen. At least the Bills rid themselves of Legursky, and kept Urbik as backup center. Still...

So, the Toronto group wins the bid, and then sells JBJ a slice afterwards. If they do put forth the highest bid we can only hope the trust goes with either TP, TG. I know the NFL would rather see a single owner over a group. From that link , “Rogers is very serious” about buying the team, another source close to the process said.

This move helps with having a Vet QB on the roster, and might just push EJ to be better. As much as I would like to see Tuel demoted, I don't see Tuel getting move to the PS, as the coaches are in love with him for some reason.

Its scary to think that this same game play we could be seeing next week in Chicago. If this team starts like that 2010 team, and goes 0-8. Then I can see the new owner making changes asap.

I watched Rex Grossman at least complete some passes as a backup for the Browns. Anyway there should be a bunch of washed up QB's to chose from after the cuts on Saturday, and maybe some young players that didn't a decent chance to play much.

The Bills have a long history of doing inexplicable things..... From firing the very best GM the NFL has seen in the history of the team in Bill Polain, a man who took a 2-14 team and built them into a SB team. Then firing another top talent evaluator in GM John Butler. After that Steeler GM Tom Donahoe lost a power struggle to Bill Cowher in Pittsburgh, so the Bills hire him, and promote him to president. After firing him they hire ex Bills HC Marv Levy as GM, a man who had no prior experience in an NFL FO, to not even having a GM for a few years. Then when they do hire a new GM, its a 70 year old guy who just retired as chief scout, and also had no prior experience as a GM. Then that GM hires a HC who was previously fired from his old job as an OC. Only the Buffalo Bills would keep hiring people who really didn't even qualify for the jobs they held, and don't get me started about the scouting dept. woulda, shoulda, coulda... Lets just hope the new owner /s (whomever they might be) want to win, and do the right things to build a winner.

You mean Nate Hackett's "hurry up and punt" offense of last year? Time will tell.

the REAL reason no team wants to sign him is because he looks so bad in practice, and can't make a single good completion to save his life. He has been that way all thru college too. Its also about speed, and the lack of it. His throwing motion, lack of mental acuity to read defenses, and ability to avoid tacklers in the NFL. NFL scouts have stated its shocking how quickly his skills have deteriorated . He has gotten so slow that he wouldn't even make a good TE, or RB. Perhaps a fullback....

Tebow might actually work if the bills had a dominate run game, and didn't need to throw down field to make a first down. The thing about the read option is it really only works well when you have a Russell Wilson type.

kneel downs to end the punishment

no problem I'm usually very pessimistic, and I have a difficult time believing that this Bills offense could have regressed this badly with almost the exact same players. So, either that new QB coach is screwing with EJ, and messed him up. Kinda just like that QB coach under Gailey screwed up Fitz his last year in Buffalo. Or, the Bills are purposely trying to hide what they will do this season. If its the latter, I just don't see the difference one game will make out of the conference vs the loss of confidence by the players with all these horrible preseason games. Miami will have the game tape the very next week.

Chicago's offense hasn't looked very good so far in preseason. and against the Seahawks they were destroyed

whoa, Palmer still in

This is sad that the Lions sat most of their starters for this game