K Gun Special

Yea but only 58 yards per game. While his YPC was good, we all know that the line had trouble establishing a ground game. I agree that we wont really know about the progress of the OL or any player until a few games in

I have to disagree. This is the same OL that while ok in pass protection generated virtually no push run blocking. One offseason of maturing will not be enough.

I was only considering guys who werent on the team last year, thats what I meant by way of fresh. I dont count guys who were backups last year and are now playing because we got rid of veterans or cut crappy guys they couldnt beat out. I certainly wouldnt count moving wood to center as fresh blood. There are really only three and all of defense. And i dont believe its enough to keep up with the division, our improvements dont put us on par with the other teams we see twice a year.

well for one its preseason, and two, while they lost some close ones to some good teams they lost some bad ones to horrible teams. Fitz looked awful down the homestretch. Also while the roster has turned over quite a bit its resulted in only two new fresh blood starters, three if you count merriman.

oh yea i think they will look better, but i am far from convinced it translates into additional wins. The OL issues are too great.

How is this team 6 wins better than last year?

The Bills think he projects better on the OL. Guy has trouble having a clue on defense. Being big isnt enough. Hope that was part of your 10 win season prediction.

I know, foregoing short term mediocrity for the potential of the most important piece to a franchise's long term success is utter stupidity and instant loss of a fan card.

Unless? The guy drinks the same water as Tim Connolly.

In fairness, unless you've played the game and watched a ton of film, it's extremely difficult to tell if it was the WR or QB who messed up the route.

If the Bills charged Dolphins prices - 50-150 more for some per ticket, they would be in the same boat.

He may be, but its not moronic to rank Fitz in the 20's.

Yes it was, and good reads by spiller. If he wants to get more PT he needs to do that far more. Kinda

Indeed. Thigpen is awful. But then again Gailey has a thing for sub par QBs.

Oh i hadnt thought of that :wallbash: geez. It still takes time for some RBs to adjust, whether you are a scrub or not. Spiller may never be good, but he has a lot more physical talent that Jackson, and he is showing more this year than last already.

I thought i heard it first that mike leach was going to ____________ or that ryan mallett was gonna be the first QB off the board? Yawn

Lets not be too hard on spiller, the guy needs time before we can "reggie bush" him. Keep in mind that freddie Jackson couldnt crack the NFL at spiller's age. Guy was playing in front of high school crowds in europe.

its certainly fair. Dockery and Walker were paid gobs of money while no one else would even come close to paying that much. The bills have repeatedly let superior talent walk for far less than Johnson money. The point remains that the Bills cannot be expected to compete on a regular basis with cheap talent. You think its a coincidence that our QB RB and WR are 7th rounders and an undrafted. I ask you to find another team now or even in the past five years that has had that backfield.

Yes Johnson was, and WR is completely different than QB. Since something like 1984 there has been only one Super Bowl that didnt feature a first round quarterback. Wonder why.

Yes because he couldnt beat out Trent Edwards. he played well in some games last years, Ravens, but stunk against some much worse teams. Ravens game was his only real outstanding game. Against CIN he beat up on some 3rd string safeties. He had quite a few yards in garbage time as well. He really struggled the 2nd half of the season and turned the ball over a ton. In those 5 games he had 5 TDs, 6 INTs and 5 fumbles lost. He also avg 207 yards passing a game. You can argue whether he deserves to be 27th but honestly you cant say he should be that much higher. Hes a 7th year 7th round draft pick who hasnt produced all that much.

You think he can be top 10 in yards? Aaron Rodgers threw for 3900 so you are basically putting him near that kind of production?

I guess it wouldn't do two much to point out you're grammatical heirs than?

doomed

They are still giving up 136 yards a game, 27th in the league. They were 26th last preseason. I didnt see one three and out the first two games when the starters were in. Against Jax they had two of them, where one set of downs was three passes. So no im not see "all those 3 and outs". Jax RB when the starters were playing was avg 4.3 yds a carry.

I guess Im the type of person who wouldnt call the Defense vastly improved because of some preseason games where the opposing offenses arent game planning. If vast improvement is so obvious to you, then you must have years of football experience beyond my own. kudos. I seem to recall the Jags running 4 runs plays in a row when they scored last game.