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True, he did have good TD #s last year, but not elite. Dwayne bowe scored 15 on a team that primarily ran the ball. Stevie is a clutch player but he's not explosive, he doesnt have a lot of big/long catches that the elite receivers do. All the best have for more 20+yard plays than stevie, almost double in fact. stevie is good and he will get better, we hope of course. But as other have said, its a business and thats how negotiations go, they break down numbers of similar players and contracts. I have yet to see anything to support stevie getting $8M year. here are $8m guys http://www.numeroten.com/top10/sports/files/top-10-highest-paid-wide-receivers-in-the-nfl-2011.html

Steve isnt in their class, and the Bills wont be paying him as such. The dude had 80 catches last year, and alsmost the same numbers as Hakeem Nicks. You think Nicks is worth $8M? He's playing well, but you dont give a 4th year player with 100 career catch $8 million a year.

No. In terms of market $8M is sky high, thats calvin johnson, reggie wayne, andre johnson kinda money. In no one's universe is steve johnson in their tier. He deserves to get paid but not as one of the best WR in the game. He's not.

I didnt mean to reference YPC only, as i dont think its a sole indicator of anything. I meant numbers as a whole. Look up the top passers' numbers from the 90s and compare to today. Kelly was one of the best in the league, he had some of the best numbers in the league. 20 years ago. To compare that to Fitz now doesnt put anything in perspective, it doesnt show a fair comparison of Fitz's development. You need to breakdown where Fitz is in relation to other QBs in today's NFL.

Not to mention it was 20 years ago. The NFL is far more pass happy now and the numbers skew higher.

Maybe Gannon, not warner as he was tearing it up before he jumped to the NFL. He threw for 40 TDs in his first NFL season. Nothing like Fitz.

Jim was one of the best QBs in the league during his era, and his numbers were always tops. Comparing Fitz's stats to a QB from 20 years ago doesn't show much. Also youre right, we would be dancing the jig if a new guy was putting up those numbers. Our guy is in his 7th year. Such a misleading post when you put the numbers next to each other. Why dont you show us how Fitz compares to other QBs over that span???

Ummm they glance at the inside of your coat. No touching or enhanced rub downs. Honestly what does an ankle pat prevent security wise that couldn't be hidden elsewhere. Again, its contraband more than security. They want to drive revenue inside the stadium.

utterly absurd, its all about contraband and preventing people from smuggling in drinks. If you really think its security, anything that could be hidden in the knee to ankle area could be hidden someplace else. A terrorist isnt going to be stopped by a shlub patting down 1000 drunk idiots. The reduced parking lot hours, new pat downs, they just want you buying more inside and this is the """best practice"" to increase revenue. I mean really, they dont do a damn thing at sabres games, but were suppsoed to believe the NFL on this?

Kelly was tops in a lot of categories too, remember passing numbers in general were lower then. Fitz is not tops in anything.

you cant cut from the side, it was borderline from the side, berry knee buckled inward.

It was a borderline cut block. Not totally dirty but not the way you are supposed to do it either. He came in from the side and cut Berry, and his injury is exactly why you dont cut from the side.

its ok you can tell me, Im a doctor.....

I know, its completelyyyyyyyyyyy different than the fans on this board predicting 10 wins this season. Unfortunately a keyboard and internet connection are all it takes to let the world know you are a fool.

It was and he had less NFL experience than Fitz and threw for 41 TDs his first year. He had also been tearing it up in the AFL and NFL Europe prior to that. It was not a sudden revelation at age 29 or a slow progression.

Thats silly, of course its mathematically possible, its also technically possible that Jasper loses 80 pounds and turns into the reincarnation of Bruce Smith. So in the context of message board banter, you knew exactly what was meant when i said 10 wins isnt possible.

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eball, you never post nonsense but I would have to respectfully disagree that 10 wins is possible. I do see your point that there arent many sure losses and many games could be close. I think sometimes as Bills fans we are somewhat blind to the improvement other teams have made as well. Also this time of the season is the worst for message boards, just take a look at the Chiefs board, as no fan really knows what their team has in store and everyone is anxious. That being said, I really think the additions may add 2 wins. Anyone seriously stating 7-10 wins is being very optimistic.

lots of guys become franchise QBs at 29, back off.

Dumb ? no. If you like the player then dont hesitate. However, the odds he will be here for years to come arent that great so if you buy you should do so with that understanding.

really? what 10 games do they win?

i bought mine in china and its andrew luck #1

No. they are people, and just like players on bad teams they know they're bad and know their limits. Do you really think players on the Pittsburgh pirates honestly believe they will make the playoffs? Just listen to how they speak publicly.... they talk about being competitive but not about the playoffs etc. Now listen to the talk coming from the sabres, they talk about winning it all etc.. Dont fool yourself into believing that every NFL player honestly believes that his team is good enough

privately the players have used the word "competitive" when asked about the season's prospects. The players know they arent going to be challenging for the playoffs.

No and I didn't imply that at all. I would prefer a line with more talent than last years or this years. I don't understand how it wasn't addressed in the off-season. We all expect the line to be better, but then again everyone on this board thinks every players will get better and that alone will be sufficient to add wins. Well other players on other teams get better, and the other teams have been doing more to improve their rosters more so than the Bills, who needed it more.