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he was shot down. There shouldn't be any surprise that Carolina will take luck if hes there. They will not trade him away, he's considered the best QB prospect in years if not a decade. The questions is what do the Bills do to address QB, because they have to, if only to fill Brohms spot. Outside of Luck i don't see anyone who has franchise written on them, but maybe there's a diamond in the rough out there.

People wont be giving you crap about Leach once he turns Maryland around.

Yea but our team blows.... so a potential manning-esque player is not as important as some potential defensive starters

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/31/todd-mcshay-backlash-builds/ He routinely gets blasted for being wrong. McShay is terrible.

Interesting. Its too bad but i dont see the panthers giving this guy up.

I dont think Carolina trades the pick. Has a #1 overall pick ever been traded?

The bills had the ball about one minute less than the Pats and Colts this year. Its not about touches, its about making something with them. You know Fitz was one of the least sacked qb's in the league too. OL is a factor but so is a poor run game, which in part has to due with average RBs. People are big on luck because its a QB league where the best thrive and the average go home. we have an average QB on a bad team.

Senator does this in every luck thread. says he wont declare and then touts his buddy Mallett.

Ha, that is laughable. Fitz is bad, he is average on his best day. 31 QBs played enough to have any meaningful comparison so dont include all those other clowns. The most important stat for a QB is really wins, but for his position you would exclude INTs as an important category? The only thing Fitz is close to leading the league in is INTs, hes a below average QB made to look great after years of worse QB play in this town. Lucky for us you dont make the calls on draft day. You would really hesitate to take luck at #3 should that miraculously happen? says a lot there.

Reading comprehension should be your friend. I said there are 31 QBs on the website, take a look. You forgot to mention i was right on several points.

There are 31 QBs listed on the website, the bottom 25% therefore includes the bottom 7.75 so it would be 23 or 24 not 25. Ill keep making my point and you can keep the regular PTR schtick going. He missed the bottom 25% by one or two spots in certain categories and made them in others. He has an avg yds per game and TDs but threw a lot of picks. btw how do you slam me for using stats and complaining that Fitz only played 13 games while at the same time touting him for throwing less INTs than guys who played in more games? Btw you are reading the INTs stats wrong, click it so it shows highest to lowest not the other way around. There were 7 qbs who threw more INTs this year, only 7.

Hes thrown 15 INTs which is 9th most. bottom 25% You cant extrapolate his stats out like that and then claim he's better. He is NOT 16th in yards per game. He is 27th in comp pct and 22nd in QB rating, those dont change regardless of the number of games he played. BOTH of those stats are worse than jon Kitna and in the bottom 25% of the league. His yards per pass is 21st just missing the bottom 25% by two spots. He;s just a bit higher than Henne and Hasselbeck. There were only four QBs with a worse completion percentage. His passing yds was 22, again just shy of bottom 25%. Several QBs ahead of him in yards did not play a full schedule either but still had better numbers. OK so hes thrown the ninth most picks, has a terrible comp percentage, yards per pass, and QB rating. Most of his stats are on the border or are in the worst 25% of the league. Keep in mind the offense had the ball nearly 30 mins a game and he was one of the least sacked QBs in the league. He still couldnt get crap done. You really think if we had a top QB with the ball 30 mins a game who was rarely sacked this team wouldnt be infinitely better?

The point is to acquire top QB talent, which almost always has to be done via the draft. If we can do that via trade im all for it. You can be successful with avg oline or D if you have a great QB. Raising the QB play is the #1 way for a team to be successful in a quick way.

Did you read what i wrote, being in the bottom 25% of the QBs isn't average. Our D was dead last. I said improving either isnt bad. You know who has a worse defense than the Bills? the pats and the colts arent that far off. But no, we will be fine if we leave the QB situation alone. Where was the cherry picking of facts?

Our D is bad, but our QB was in the bottom 25% of the league in almost every stat. not screwing ourselves if we improve either.

Huge numbers? 22nd in yards 27th in comp pct 21st in avg comp 22nd in rating 9th most INTs Yea were set at QB alright. He did throw 23 TDs which is the same amount as Garrard but still less than megastar josh freeman. He also was one of the least sacked QBs and had the ball the 4th most every game. He's had every opportunity to shine. What were you referring to when you said huge numbers?

absolutely, there are plenty of 1st rounders who don't make the playoffs, but there are far more 2-7 rounders who don't. Think about that for a minute. Too many people here are ignoring the QB situation. This bills team had the ball more than most teams this season and failed to produce time after time. A lot of that falls on the QB. You cant blame it all on the Oline either, Fitz was one of the least sacked guys in the league. He just isn't that good. Im not saying we need to take one in this years draft, bc outside of Luck there isnt a QB worth taking at #3.

I fail to see how the OP distorted the truth. You simply have a different reading bc your focus is on whether that person was drafted by their current team. The posters main point was that 1st round QB talent is most important, its been covered countless time. Look at the last 25 super bowls and show me one other than the Brad Johnson SB that didn't have one 1st round QB playing, i don't care if that team drafted him either.

yea bc when you are scoring points its hard to give up that many yards on the ground. The bills offense is just as bad as the defense. Ok, since 1983, every super bowl except one, has featured at least one first round QB. Many have had two.

Yes it would be a bad thing, Fitz cannot be the QB for years... Really? the bills dont need a QB? maybe youre happy with an inconsistent guy from harvard who was in the bottom third of the league in almost every statistical category. Fitz has been better than what this team has had in years, and that is making people see stuff in him that is not there. in case you missed it, Fitz was a major part of why this team was 4-12. he was pretty bad in the beginning of the season, got hot for a few then had some major clunkers. the guy is in the going into his 7th year in the NFL, there isnt much upside, he's not all of a sudden going to develop into a premier QB. btw the Bills were #4 in time of possession this year, so its a little hard to say the defense couldnt get off the field to let the offense score. Fitz had more time than almost anyone and cant get it done. Hes nothing more than a band aid QB until we can bring someone else in.

8 out of the 12 QBs playing in the playoffs were first round draft picks. almost every super bowl is won by a first round draft QB (aside from brady). so yea when three out of 4 QBs in the playoffs are #1 QBs i think its safe to say thats important. 2 of the non first round QBs, hasselbeck and cassel play in awful divisions and will likely lose their first game leaving 7 out of the remaining 8 QBs as 1st round picks. Meanwhile, half the teams with a top 10 defense are sitting at home. Its a QB driven league and Fitz isnt the answer.

no neither does saying a guy is the best ever. thats a throwaway line. yea eli had nothing to do with that super bowl win. right.

so would scoring some points. Bills had one of the highest time of possession in the league but couldnt do jack with it. Dont be surprised to see more O

go back and look further, find a super bowl since 1983 or 1984 that did not have at least one 1st round QB, yea others get there and win it, but theres almost always a premier 1st round QB. They wont win a national title, Harbaugh is likely gone and they didnt have the other pieces anyway. we all know you think luck will stay in but you also said Leach was bound for maryland since he was their guy.

re read the post....if hes the best in years he sets your franchise at the most important position on the field.