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So you're a choke artist if you: broke the playoff drought led us to the playoffs before Allen arrived has taken us to the playoffs 4 out of the last 5 years has made the playoffs 4 out of his first 5 years as an NFL HC has a record in his first 5 years almost identical to Reid's first 5 years in Philly (Reid 51-29)(McDermott 49-32) has a record in his first 5 years almost identical to Reid's first 5 years in KC (Reid 53-27)(McDermott 49-32) has a record in his first 5 years almost identical to Belichick's first 5 years in NE (Belichick 53-27)(McDermott 49-32) is pretty even in KC matchups the last 5 years helped find a franchise quarterback helped develop that franchise quarterback put the people in places around that franchise quarterback to develop into one of the NFL's best players has helped assemble one of the most high powered offenses in the NFL has helped assemble a consistent #1 defense in the NFL has turned the team into one of the toughest in the league has us setup to compete for Super Bowls for the next several years like wuuuuttttttt?

It's always nice to see someone show their emotions.

The contingency of Bills fans who think Payton will come to Buffalo are the same who thought we had the game won with 13 seconds left even with all the lead changes in the last two minutes. He's got Dallas, Dak, lower taxes, and no snow in Dallas.

I bet you thought a sweet potato would will us to victory too.

Clearly we should hire Kelce as HC.

maybe the Bills curse is delusional fans who believe things like McDermott isn't a winner and sweet potatoes will will us to victory, I dunno. Highly doubt Jerry will write about that though.

It's funny most Bills fans will say Allen is arguably the best player in the league now, saying he does the most with the least, yet whine and overanalyze 13 seconds of a game where KC had more talent, and think the head coach should be fired.

No other fan base is more misguided due to sports talk radio drivel than Buffalo.

I think this is just sensationalism from Jerry, he's not entirely wrong, but he is exaggerating. Details do matter. Play calling in the first half after the first drive? That's on Daboll, McD is his boss, so I get it. But if we're calling the first half like we do in the 2nd, it's a different ball game. And I understand the urgency of winning now. But the reality is there are many pieces to this puzzle. The realist in me knows, as you all do, McD isn't going anywhere for at least the next two seasons, likely even longer, whether you like it or not. So can he fine tune a few pieces this offseason? Especially in the killer mentality department? I think he can. Details do matter, Leslie Frazier is the DC and played the sidelines while KC had 3 timeouts. The real key, is if McD can make that next step. It's hard for me to say he can't. Jerry has also been blaming Poyer and Hyde, which again I think is a stretch.

I used to like Jerry, I try to be a realist, then for whatever reason, it seems like he went all in on embellishing this sensational counter personality. It's not cute nor real, I think his best days of writing are far behind him. Just wanted to say that in case he reads this.

I get all the stuff about Frazier, and McD's tenacity, but my hot take is fire Daboll, today, before he takes the Giants job. 😀 Daboll is an average at best coordinator who has both benefitted from Allen's growth and success and also held him back. The play calling in the first half after the first drive was atrocious. 3rd and shorts consecutively not using Allen? One drive 3 runs and punting? If we're making better decisions there, I think the game result is different. You knew this would be a shootout and those drives gassed our defense. People don't give enough credit sometimes to talent gravity. Look at Brady with Belichick, he leaves Patriots universe and you can literally almost see it. Reid and Mahomes same thing, Mahomes is enough a talent where his gravity has elevated Reid, before Reid was known as a good OC who couldn't get over the hump in the conference championship games. Mahomes gave him that bump. Look at Daboll before the Bills; he was at Alabama who has 5-star athletes at every position and their backups! Anyone could go in there with half a brain and look successful. But look before that, 2-14 with Chiefs as OC, 6-10 with Dolphins before that, had the worst ranked offense in the NFL with the Browns before that. What changed? Has he re-written NFL offenses or has he benefitted from Allen's growth? McD needs to progress more into a killer mentality. Starts today by firing Daboll. Lol.

"Offer your resignation or we'll fire you." Happens everyday.

I'm just gonna sit back and wait for the "Bench Orton" posts in favor of whatever 3rd string QB we can scrounge up.

Tim Graham is accurate in his reporting. Of course, I'm just a lowly message board poster, but I would guess Dan has been leading the efforts in this game since Jim has been recovering. They've been reaching out to LOTS of folks, folks they don't even know firsthand, including a lot of people who consider themselves "movers and shakers" (i.e. can't really help $$$-wise but want to be in the center of it), which could be leading to more misinformation. I would guess they've been reaching out to folks to drum up cash to try to attach their group to the potential leading bidder. I would also guess they've reached out to all major bidders, Trump, Pegula, etc. Pegula could easily tell them "Nope, I want all teh controlz!"

So the team probably had a net profit of around $20 million last year. Good points. http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2014/08/05/buffalo-bills-sale-books-most-important-number/

The reason the Bills haven't made the playoffs is because they haven't had a true leader in the front office since John Butler and the people since him have made some really awful decisions. Tom Donahoe and Gregg Williams made a huge mess. One example is when they drafted Willis McGahee, not only a RB in the 1st round, but a RB that tore his ACL just a few months earlier. Nevermind his career in the NFL, you rarely draft a RB in the first round, the ROI isn't as long-lasting as other more important positions - especially when that RB shreds his ACL just a few months earlier. Oh yeah, first round pick there that was gone 3 years later. Good investment. Then you had Mike Mularkey, the name says it all. We let Marshawn Lynch go, the media made him out to be a bad character guy because there was nothing else to write about, fans bought into that, Marshawn is gone and now the top RB in the league coming off a Super Bowl win. Regardless to what fans think players should carry themselves, the whole point in this is to win games and win a Super Bowl. Who cares if someone gets caught with a "drug" that's about to be legalized anyway? I feel like the same story is starting to develop for Marcell Dareus. We then make another bonehead move and sign Ryan Fitzpatrick to a near $60 million contract after he lead us to a 4-2 start in 2011. That's only 6 games, you don't do that after 6 games! You do that at the end of the season. I could bring up more examples but these are just some of the highlights. I do think it is good that Ralph turned over more control to Russ Brandon, who I think has delegated authority pretty well to Doug Whaley and Marrone - who also seem to work together well. The last problem is related to EJ Manuel. He's barely played half a season, and after a few passes in the first preseason game fans are wanting to scrap the board and go with Jeff Tuel or Thad Lewis, two QBs who probably couldn't make it on any other roster. Genius plan guys. We're better off bringing back Fitzpatrick. So basically my thoughts are: 1) Bad/No leadership with the team for many years 2) Fans freakout over unrealistic expectations. hope this helps!

Right, but there are many different formulas to value a business. Cash flows is one of a handful and it doesn't include the different valuation formulas. It's a buyers and sellers market, so the team's value will be what it is sold for.

Brand, facilities they own, stores, apparel, etc.

I've never heard of an "add back". But it's not just cash flows. It's assets and future earnings. Whoever buys the team will also invest some (i.e. new stadium, etc.), you have to consider the value of projected earnings as well. But if the bank signs off on the buyer price. It's officially valued at that price. People can debate it all they want. Look at Forbes and the Dolphins now, now they value them right at $1.1b.

If this were true, considering the Bills generally cash flow between $20m-$40m, at most their value would be $400m. Not the $870m Forbes estimates. Businesses aren't just valued by cash flow.

You're forgetting assets.

This.

I think once the bank signs off on the buyer price, it's valued at that. "It's only worth what you can sell it for." But values of things like that vary based on different formulas. Forbes isn't 100% accurate because they don't get access to all financials of teams or people on Forbes 400 list.

If the Bills pay to use the trademark, common sense says fans usage of something the Bills paid for - paid to promote - should be under that umbrella. If A&M has a problem with that, they shouldn't license it out in the first place.

For the record, I'm from Mississippi with no attachments to WNY and became a Bills fan. And I've met others here that became Bills fans too. In fact, I went to speak to a group of students a few months ago and in the front row was a kid with a bright blue and red Bills t-shirt on. I asked him when he became a Bills fan - thinking it was when they last made the playoffs or his dad was or something - and to my surprise he said he became a fan when he saw C.J. play in Buffalo. I asked him if he'd be a fan if C.J. left and he said "Yeah, I'm too in love with the team now." Also, when I travel I see just as many Bills fans as other NFL team fans. Seems to me in airports you don't see as much Dallas, New England stuff, I see a good bit of Pittsburgh and other teams, including the Bills. Moral summary of this rambling: it's never as bad as it seems.