aristocrat

OK, so if all these illegal weapons around why don't we be proactive in stopping them from getting them? You know the most common way they get them? They sen someone with a clean record to a state where it's easy to buy and then they get sold in Chicago where it's hard to buy. Why don't we come up with a way to stop that. Then slowly over time you have less and less guns as they are confiscated during crimes or thrown away after crime. Cut off their supply chain. Cause what's happening now isn't working. Creating more lines of defenses in schools is just not normal. This school had SRO's and this Ramos kid knew it as did the kid down in parkland. They went anyways and still got passed them cause they weren't there. Not every teacher is even able to carrry. We all thought sro's would stop it...armed cops. They still try and have succeeded. I mean we're sending kids to schools with armor plates in their backpacks in the hopes that it saves their lives. This is not first world country stuff.

Ok how bout answer this. What are your ideas of keeping guns out of criminals hands?

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We live in our RV. Travel around the country with the kids enjoying retirement. We have a 4 and 5 year old. Oldest starts school in the fall. I have two guns but mainly just for wild animals as we often go off grid and just a bear gets hungry. My issue is not people having weapons for hunting and protection its that the conversation needs to be stopping criminals from getting them. Mental illness and age seems to be a big problem. We can't stop all of them but we can be better about this we're too smart not to be. All I hear is bad guy with a gun the criminals will get them any way they can! Well why don't we ask how the criminals are getting them and close that door? Or at least close it as best we can? Maybe instead of the 240 mass shootings we've had this year alone we knock it down to 100? Is that better? It's not perfect but it's better. We can't have SEAL teams protecting all the schools it's just insane. This kid knew these schools had cops at them as he spent time in them up until last year and didn't care. He knew the cops were outside in the hallways and hid in closet until they came in and fired at them almost killing one guy who got grazed in the scalp. This kid was no coward he had more balls than most of these shooters as he was willing to not only go to a place with security he was willing to fight the dozens of cops he knew were outside. That's ***** scary. He didn't just kill himself the second he faced resistance like most of the shooters do he wanted to go out blazing.

One kid broke the entire social contract between cops and citizens. One kid put a chief of police's brain in such a pretzel that he forgot all of his training. Oh, the kids are probably all dead. Like everyone who gets shot dies. Billions spent on school safety and one propped open door breaks the entire system.

do you understand how ridiculous this is? The problem is so bad we all have to carry guns. Step back and think about that

School safety is already big business and apparently has done nothing.

fyi I have an ar under my bed in the Rv. I don’t want stupid insane kids getting one. I can take a psych exam, I can wait a little longer to get the weapon I will have for years.

Let’s find ways to keep guns out of criminals hands. The Swiss have some of the highest gun ownership in the world and no gun crimes. But you need psych evaluation, personal background checks meaning friends and family, military service etc. let’s just make it hard for criminals to get guns and maybe one day only good guys have guns? Think about this logically

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no I want psych evals for all buyers. All states have red flag laws and raise the age to 21

The kids got in because a teacher heard the truck crash and she propped the door open when she went out to see what happened. Thats how this lined up. We need security at the schools but also need to put in some laws to stop insane people from getting guns. The only way is mental health exams for buyers. Will it stop all of them? Probably not but at least it'll be better. We can't have some classroom each year winning the lucky lottery of being eliminated by a shooter.

The door he entered was left propped open by a teacher. Normally locked.

Uvalde is a town of 16000 people how many cops do they even have on their force? Buffalo is a decent size city with a sizeable police force that can respond very quickly. Uvalde I imagine had to call in all off duty and surrounding areas for help. That needs to be considered

Landscape is a little rough imo. Can't invest in a sprinkler system?

That bill wants to look at white nationalist shootings right? There’s been one this year. There have been 22 school shootings and 200 other Maas shootings related to gang violence.

they better cause people are a little tired of this

Now they're reporting the school did not have a resource officer and nobody engaged him before he entered an unlocked door at the school. Cops were on scene in about 4 minutes

there have been reports three officers engaged but did not fire at him and he just went in the school. this keeps changing

It just takes one lapse in security and next thing you know this happens. But we can't have schools which are the favorite target of these mass shooters be that vulnerable to this. Like, oops one mistake and 21 people die. We'll get him next time. This kid had such a bad childhood that he dropped out, got a job, saved his money just to do this and nobody noticed. Let's have a system that works better. We can all blame mental health let's do something about it.

The issue is that 1 percent is the one who are ruining innocent people's lives. Again, we already have red flag laws. I agree there are always holes but there is a saying that goes...don't let perfect be the enemy of better. We're all trying to just make it better and we realize we can't make it perfect. We don't just throw our hands up saying well since it won't be perfect we can't do anything oh well. Yesterday the school had an armed guard who failed to stop the guy from getting in. I agree all schools should have them cause next time I hope the cop stops them. All your other ideas are great. The mental health in this country is terrible. My dad killed himself using nitrous oxide and he'd be in and out of hospitals for years with multiple attempts. I don't say ban nitrous oxide. Other countries do the mental health e v a l for guns we should do it as looking back on all these shootings they all have that in common. Just angry kids pissed at the world and want to go out guns blazing on the easiest targets.

I already answered.

Look, mass shootings are 4 or more people shot not including shooter and they don't need to die. The vast majority are these smaller shootings at parties between rival gangs, friends etc. Then you have the schools, supermarket types which are the least common but get the most press cause of how many victims they tend to have. We talk about how many shootings take place in the cities. Well most of those shootings are done by stolen or straw purchase type buys. They send someone with no criminal history to buy a gun and then the gang member uses in a shooting and they tend to buy them in states where it's easier to buy them. Start with psych evals. Red flag laws across the nation. If straw buyers have to go through a psych e v a l who knows maybe that keeps some guns out of criminals hands?

OK, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Japan You're talking about 22 deaths by stabbings in the last 50 years or so. I think we'd all trade that for what happened the other day. It's not an apples to apples comparison.