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There shouldn't be. Religious fanatics (of all varieties) will always be trying to kill people, they've been doing it for millennia.

Overreacting much? I don't think it's time to give up quite yet, AJ. Sorry I couldn't make it tonight. Most of you know what it's like being a college student. Suddenly: essays!

Probably means nothing to most of you on here (the Redwall series was a series of children's fantasy books whose publication began in 1986), but these books and my parents' influence (in that order) are the two reasons why I love reading so much now. Damn, I'm legitimately saddened by this news. One last EULALIA! Edit to add news link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-12380763

Communist? How dare you, sir? If it makes you feel better, there's nothing like 80,000 drunken English football fans singing "God Save the Queen." And my favorite would have to be . Those minor notes are badass.

Touché

I've always been fond of the old standbys - Frank's Original and Tabasco original red sauce. Recently tried this stuff, which was hotter than the standbys but also had good flavor. Won't ever put me off Frank's, though

I've never heard a powerful instrumental of our national anthem. I've also never really liked the music it's set to, so maybe I'm biased, but I've always thought that other nations' anthems were far superior to ours, composition-wise. For comparison, the and The Star-Spangled Banner (both instrumentals). And here's a version of the Soviet anthem sung by the Red Army Choir:

David Cameron too... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12371994

They can be abused as well.

It's a passive hate. I've seen two or three clips with him on youtube.

You're just beginning to hate Sean Hannity?

Better go with the former. If you go by the latter, the gays will be up in arms; it's a little confusing.

Speaking of which, did WisconsinBillzFan get banned or did he just take off?

I guess it's down to an ideological disagreement then. I've never bought the "natural right" bit when it comes to property ownership. To quote Hobbes, "My own can only truly be mine if there is one unambiguously strongest power in the realm, and that power treats it as mine, protecting its status as such." Edit: Non sequitur removed.

Well, we pretty much conquered the Iroquois and co. Romans, crusaders, Turks, Egyptians, and the like conquered the Jews (or, more accurately, conquered their land). Again, the only point of disagreement here is whether historic "right" to land means/should mean anything.

See my edit, I'm trying to draw a comparison between two CONQUERED PEOPLES. Perhaps I should have used that phrase earlier.

Are you familiar with the Sullivan Campaign? In any case, I brought up the Iroquois because they were pretty much a conquered people, much like the Jews were. Only might makes right when it comes to nation ownership. The state of Israel has the might, they should stay. Historic "right" means nothing in the grand scheme of things.

So we're back to the homeland thing? In that case, we ought to defer to the Iroquois Confederacy's right to most of New York.

Status unchanged? How do you mean? The Turks dominated the area for 200 years or so. The Egyptian kings dominated the area for 400+ years before that. Hell, you have to go back to the Kingdom of Judah to find an extended period of time in which the Jews ruled the area. I'm not saying they shouldn't stay there now, there's no way to move them without quite a bit of !@#$ing **** up (not to mention they're the only real ally we have in the middle of those Arab states). I just think that people yelling about how the Jews have some sort of right to the land because of Old Testament-era kings is somewhat ridiculous.

Oh I know they've been there for quite some time. So Jewish presence = Jewish right to land? You're joking, right?

Did everyone else miss this? Tom has a friend?!

Yep, if you really want to die, you do it right.

No, but he was probably the only Arab leader that Israel was even remotely comfortable with. He wasn't an enemy of the West, at the very least.

In the words of reddogblitz, "I feel safer already!"