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LeviF

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  1. 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:


    How would this go in NYS?  Would the BJJ guy be in some hot water?

     

     


    Honestly it probably depends on the jurisdiction. 
     

    The fighting experience thing can cut both ways. If he could articulate that the level of force was reasonably necessary and that it was a blood choke that could end the threat in five seconds based on his training it might be fine. 
     

    But this is a good reason to never talk to the police. Let your lawyer do it. 

  2. 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:


    I know you aren’t agreeing or disagreeing.

     

    So in NYS state, it would be better for me to dislocate a shoulder than choke a guy who is attacking me?

     

    Georgia allows chokes as long as its proportionate and reasonable.  I can’t just put him out with a choke if he isn’t really a threat or if we are just having words.  He has to attack me and Im under a real threat.  Im also not holding onto this choke for more than 5 seconds regardless.


    You’re good to choke so long as you’re also good to shoot. That’s the standard. Deadly physical force justified under article 35. 

  3. 10 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

     

    A choke is much safer than a one punch.  Concussions or being knocked out and cracking your head on pavement has serious consequences.

    The Marietta Police near me are required to train in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu to prevent injuries and hurting the bad guy too much.

     

    I personally am not going to put the guy out unless he's really dangerous.  I'm just going to smother him where he can't move.  

     

    A choke is considered deadly physical force in NY. 

     

    I'm not saying I agree or disagree but there is no longer any chokes taught in a DCJS class for that reason.

  4. 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:


    What happens if the fighter is attacked?

    How much can he unleash?

     

    Normal self-defense rules still apply. Gonna vary by state. If they knock someone out with one punch in a self defense scenario they're probably good.

     

    An MMA guy applying a choke might be a different story.

  5. 3 hours ago, US Egg said:

    Do they really have to register their hands as lethal weapons?

     

    No, but prosecutors will absolutely use a fighter's training and extensive experience to beef up charges against them. There's kind of an understanding that trained fighters have extra responsibility to walk away from laymen trying to pick a fight.

  6. 1 hour ago, 4th&long said:

    I’m glad you like Germany’s generals from that time. It shows who you truly are. Of course they were a formidable foe. How many thousands of Americans died trying to stomp them out? Our fathers, grand fathers great grandfathers? Go ahead and piss on their grave.

     

     

    lol

     

    You don't get to invoke "our" grandfathers and great grandfathers when we both know they would be more likely to beat the ever-loving ***** out of you for your political beliefs since they were, by any modern standard, "right-wing extremists."

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  7. 34 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


    Coming from you, this is the least surprising thing.


    I was saying it out loud over 7 years ago. 
     

    Levi: “I am a fascist”

     

    TBD leftists: “woah man, careful with the kind of language you’re using”

     

    Levi: “We need strong central leadership to crush the subversive elements embedded in the nation”

     

    TBD leftists: “hey, those sound like dog whistles”

     

    Levi: “Millions must go back”

     

    TBD leftists: “just say what you mean already”

     

    etc. etc. 

  8. 1 minute ago, Steve O said:

    The statute leaves a lot to interpretation. At the point where the gun jammed there was no longer imminent danger. Interestingly, that phrase is not used in the statute. However, the "other" did attempt to commit aggravated robbery. He was also attempting to enter unlawfully and with force. Therefore, the presumption is that the use of deadly force was reasonable. In Texas it would be pretty tough to find 12 people to vote guilty given the vagueness of the statute. The owner would stand a pretty good chance of getting off even though the use of deadly force was no longer necessary to prevent imminent danger. At least that's how I'm reading it. Not sure of the point you were trying to make?

     

    I wasn't trying to make a point. "Stand your ground" means different things in different places so it can be helpful to show what it means in (in this case) Texas. Brings some clarity to discussions of hypothetical legal consequences.

  9. 17 hours ago, BuffaloBill said:

     

     

    The manager may be lucky too. Hard to say what the circumstances were but you can’t simply shoot the guy because you are mad. Probably self defense is plausible but maybe not. 

     

    15 hours ago, Steve O said:

    Texas is a stand your ground state. Chances of getting off on self defense are better there than in many other states but as you say, maybe not. 

     

    Sec. 9.32. DEADLY FORCE IN DEFENSE OF PERSON. (a) A person is justified in using deadly force against another:

         (1) if the actor would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.31; and

         (2) when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:

               (A) to protect the actor against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful deadly force; or

               (B) to prevent the other's imminent commission of aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.

    (b) The actor's belief under Subsection (a)(2) that the deadly force was immediately necessary as described by that subdivision is presumed to be reasonable if the actor:

         (1) knew or had reason to believe that the person against whom the deadly force was used:

              (A) unlawfully and with force entered, or was attempting to enter unlawfully and with force, the actor's occupied habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment;

              (B) unlawfully and with force removed, or was attempting to remove unlawfully and with force, the actor from the actor's habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment; or

              (C) was committing or attempting to commit an offense described by Subsection (a)(2)(B)

     

     

  10. 17 hours ago, Warcodered said:

    He also said that about the one on Josh, and maybe it's a combination of the slowness of the replay and bias but, the balls out don't throw the QB to the ground that's just stupid.

     

    Flame away, but on first glance (I haven't watched any replays since) I thought Josh flopped at the end of that one to make it look like Kinlaw slammed him down as a second act.

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  11. On 10/11/2024 at 7:30 PM, 4th&long said:

     


    Oh, this is the guy who refused to obey his commander in chief and then told an enemy country that he’d check with them before following the commander in chief’s orders?

     

    Milley has every reason to go balls to the wall against Trump. By any historical standard he should hang from the neck until dead. 

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  12. 9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

    It was brought up as a real possibility on WFAN. Coaches and players are allowed to display flags of their heritage. But the current situation and the date it was displayed indicated it could have been a point of contention. They also couldn’t figure out why he was escorted out and not allowed to speak to players and the GM was not even informed. They surmised it may not have been football related especially because they are only 5 games in and playing for 1st place in the division on Monday. 


    Counterpoint:

     

     

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