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There's one play from the Titans playoff game that makes me more optimistic about Lamar than the "it's just RGIII all over again" crowd. It's the Ravens first drive so there's like 10 minutes left in the first quarter (before the INT on the same drive). Throws an absolute dart to the sideline on an out or corner to the TE. Great footwork, great placement, great everything...until you watch the all-22 and realize he missed his first read (safety) entirely on a deep post for what would have been an easy TD. If he can slow that down and make that first read, it's 7-0 Ravens and a much different ballgame. Instead, the drive continues and some shoddy footwork and lackluster pass pro result in an INT (+15 yard penalty on none other than Lamar) that gets the Titans amped up and makes it look like the moment was too big for QB1...again.

I wonder if the pic of my buddy passed out on the porta-john will pass quality control.

Yeah...only time I "enjoy" roulette is when I'm ready to blow some winnings. Rivers still with no opening date ?

Wasn't it 2013? The EJ draft year. Poor EJ.

And where did that faith get the Bills last year? Another year without a banner and another year without a playoff win. I have high hopes for Josh too. I've seen some things that made my jaw drop. But I've seen some dimes from Lamar too. Will we see those kinds of things every game a la Rodgers, Wilson and co? Maybe someday. But I think both could do it. That's more my point than anything else. I won't read anything into Roman's play calling other than "don't fix it if it ain't broke."

That's where my "expertise" (lol) ends. Again, I'm not saying Lamar doesn't have work to do as a passer. He does. But pointing to the offense the Ravens tend to run as proof that he'll never take the next step in that area is not going to convince anybody who doesn't already have that opinion of him.

Because that doesn't give their teams the best chance of winning right now? Coaches want to keep their jobs and winning is the best way of doing that. Harbaugh and Roman are getting that done. Watson and Wilson have proved themselves as passers. I think it's fair to say Josh has a way to go before hitting their QB tier.

And making assumptions as to the motivations behind the decisions. Roman might not be running the option because Lamar sucks at throwing. He might be running it because they're trying to win and the option just gives them the best chance of winning right now with the personnel they have at skill positions. Lamar's making the throws they ask him to make - that's really all he can do. And then goes to work in the offseason. Despite Josh's current limitations the Bills run a more "standard" offense that relies more on QB passing ability. They might be doing that to try and try Josh by fire, if you will. If he's not the guy he'll stall out at best and crash and burn at worst. Then you turn around and draft another QB. Meanwhile Josh goes to work in the offseason trying to ascend. My point isn't that the Ravens aren't hiding some limitations, it's that assuming they don't believe in Lamar at all as a passer is kind of odd given what they've been able to do with the offense they're running. If you can get to 14-2 running the option nobody's going to ask questions or assume they should switch their playcalling around.

I think the question is largely this: why do we assume Lamar has hit his ceiling on passing ability when we assume Josh hasn't hit his? Josh's first year was with JAGs at every skill position except for a declining superstar RB so I kind of get it. The Ravens are taking a different (from the Bills), but good strategy to hide Lamar's limitations with the personnel they have now. Meanwhile in the offseason Lamar can work on his passing game just like Josh does. Lamar might never have the sheer throw power that Josh has but most successful QBs don't. In any case, the answer to the question is "because we want Josh to be the guy." And that's ok but we need to be honest with ourselves about it.

Hmm, snipping up baby and vacuuming it out of the uterus vs. passing an invisible disease with a 1% mortality rate without even knowing you have it. Yeah no idea how those are different. You either need to drink more or less. Haven't decided which yet.

But all I've heard since June was that when people are gathering outdoors it's fine.

Maybe he should come down, but at least he didn't go up there AFTER the fact.

Why do people refer to Lamar's Wonderlick (sic) score?

I mean they have a statue of a ***** murderer outside of their facility. Wouldn't be the worst fit for that organization.

You want demilitarization? I got your demilitarization right here. Defund police means more Kias, douchebags.

Then go ahead and explain to me what, based on your training and experience, about what I said is "100 percent wrong. And very uninformed."

I've read enough of your posts to understand that this is a theme.

Fixed

I’m seeing Calais Campbell there.

Lot of simps in this thread. Shameful. As soon as this manipulative shrew managed to get one of her eggs fused with one of his sperm this man was in a no-win scenario. The law doesn’t favor him. The criminal justice system doesn’t favor him. The family court system doesn’t favor him. He probably had to put up with escalating abuse for years before a cop would ever consider seeing him as a victim (look up the Duluth model). Luckily he was able to get himself bloodied up in a non-life threatening manner and apparently there’s some video evidence too. Could he have stopped this sort of ***** way back when? Maybe. But the reality is the system is so twisted now that if he flexes an ounce of “self-respect” as its mentioned upthread there are lines and lines of simps, “counselors,” judges, and cops all trained to label him an abuser and enable her further manipulation of him by holding custody of his kid over his head. This man needs compassion, not a bunch of black pill platitudes.

Guns don’t kill people. Nigel Bradham kills people.

That’s an insane return for a DB who frankly I don’t really think is an every week game changer. Tryna resurrect the legion of boom or something.

lmao this stupid B word. This is the kind of indignation theater that our political process gets reduced to when we allow women to partake in the legislative process. They would be remembered for defending themselves and the sisterhood against school bus slights to hide the fact that they do absolutely nothing for the American people.

I feel personally attacked

So basically Pittsburgh was the girl Toronto hit on at the party at 11pm and Buffalo was the chick who answered the 3am knock on the dorm room door. @Johnny Hammersticks