SageAgainstTheMachine

Well that's definitely something to think about (after all, the war got us out of the depression, not the New Deal), but my absentee ballot is already cast for Obama. However, I'm voting in New York so my vote changes pretty much nothing. It will certainly be interesting to see what Obama brings to the table. (It's pretty clear he'll win) He's clearly a candidate that the international community is getting behind, which should at least improve our standing around the world. That was one of the more unfortunate side effects of the Bush presidency. And I guess we will just have to wait and see how effective of a leader he is. You can definitely make the argument that it's a cult of personality that got Obama where he is today (let the record show i supported Bill Richardson) and it's probably undeserved. On the other hand, he is well spoken and intelligent, which counts for something in my book. The next 4 years might go great, or they might go horribly. In either case, the country is quite frankly in the sh*tter right now, and a change of pace is most often the correct remedy for that.

Trust me, I hate the two party system. Supposedly, we're "choosing" the president, but realistically I only get to choose between two legit candidates. (I'm not registered with a party so I don't get to cast a vote in the primaries) But voting for a third party candidate or writing someone in is throwing away your vote, plain and simple. And unfortunately, voting for a specific third party guy can have unintended consequences. In 2000, a vote for Nader was essentially a vote for Bush, and I get the feeling that a vote for Barr is a vote for Obama in a similar fashion.

What does the ad say? Or, if possible, a link...

I wonder how people from New Hampshire feel about only being relevant once every 4 years haha

Well I'm far from the most liberal person on this board. (I pretended to be that one time just to annoy you, and again sorry for the douchebaggery), but I've made it clear that I merely consider the Obama camp to be the lesser of two evils. I might come across as liberal on these boards because I like to combat all the "Obama is a lying communist fraud, blah blah dont drink the kool aid" people, but I am not convinced in the least that he's going to turn the country around. I'm just afraid McCain's presidency would be more of the same of the past 4 years, and the cruel spectre of a Palin presidency honestly scares me away from the Republican ticket.

Ok ok gotcha dude, sorry it's late, i'm tired, and in fairness you do tend to attack most of what i say when you get the chance

No a black conservative explaining his viewpoints on how African Americans and poor urban dwellers have been duped into thinking Democrats are looking out for them. He presents a very logical argument in a very powerful and convincing manner. Toward the end, I think he loses a little bit of credibility by bringing Jesus vs Obama comparisons into the mix, but in general it's a good watch.

I gotta admit, he made a lot of sense about a lot of things.

Are you addressing me? Cuz you posted a reply to Conner's post... All I did in this thread is point out that Stanford and Brockport are not in the Ivy League athletic conference. I don't see how that makes me a liberal elitist.

That's a link to an article about the New York State wrestling championship. It has no affiliation with the Ivy League. Cornell was participating because it is a University in New York State. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League

I think that if affirmative action has to exist, it should be based on the student's family's income, not race. Because it is true that poorer children go to poor schools, have larger classes, worse textbooks and supplies, not as many opportunities to pad the resume with extra curriculars, less likely to be properly prepared for the SAT, etc, etc. What I don't understand is why affirmative action should be racially oriented. What about the white kid that grew up in the slums right next to the black and hispanic kids affirmative action is geared toward? Where's his head start? That white kid had to deal with not only being poor, but also being a minority at his school. And how about the wealthy black kid? Why should he get an upper hand over his equally wealthy peers?

I agree. Affirmative action is something that my friends and I debate all the time and we were wondering why it has been a completely avoided subject. Obviously, the war and the economy take precedence, but I would have liked to see it discussed.

I like watching the Iron Chef (japanese version, not american). Those dudes are crazy.

But then again, he's clearly not past his coaching prime quite yet. Those who are casual fans of NCAA football assume that the only reason JoePa has his job is because the program "owes" him for his 40+ years of service, but Paterno's teams are 39-9 (including bowl games) the past 4 years. I'd have to look it up, but that's gotta be close to the best in Division I. I assume Pete Carroll is the leader.

Ok, I'll be the one to say it. He went over the line.

Yeah, actually I remember Penn State taking down Tennessee in the Outback Bowl a couple years back. Tennessee was ranked 12 and PSU was 22, and PSU just handed them a big-time loss. Here's a big question. Does Joe Pa finally call it quits if he gets one last national championship? I personally don't think so, but that's a rumor I've heard.

Dude's 34 years old? I might have McDyess and Jason Maxiell mixed up in my head. So do you think AI fits in with Detroit? The Pistons' system has always been the furthest away from the me-first sh*t you tend to see around the league, and AI has always had an attitude. He used to get loads of assists, but lately it seems like he's more selfish. On top of that, I don't know what's going to happen to the team's chemistry when you put Iverson and Rasheed Wallace on the same court.

He calls us fools, and yet the entire premise of this thread was to tell Obama supporters to F*ck off because of two anchormen on ABC making a joke.

For not agreeing with everything you say?

Urine test?

Race relations is one of the major themes of the book. And it looks like somebody is skipping ahead on their word-a-day calendar...tsk tsk

I DID answer his question, and here's my question; Why are you going out of your way to insult me when I didn't even address you? Your insult up there doesn't even have anything to do with the topic at hand.

Unfortunately, Marcus Stroud has been consistently double teamed and taken out of every play. That should open things up for "undersized but high motor" players like Kyle Williams, Chris Kelsay, and Ryan Denney, but they just cannot seem to beat their single coverage. All three of them are too weak.

I think you were going for "I think you were going for..."

And Biden is what? An android?