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Davis hit his hole so much faster than Cook

He definitely does

Shakir just catches everything and just gets open. I’ve been saying he’s gonna have a big year and we are seeing why

Allen done

Love that Samuel play

Nice play Solomon

Caleb has had some impressive throws today in his first live action

Or it’s just the first 3 snaps of preseason

If you’re gonna start Allen in a preseason game let him throw there on 3rd down

Shakir is gonna eat this year

Great play Rasul

Wow second impressive throw in a row

Nice throw by Caleb

Lmao Bass already screwing up the kickoff

Does anyone have a picture or video of this outfit? Haven’t seen anything and nothing on Twitter either

LFG! It’s always silly to put much stock into any first preseason game, good or bad. But still I’m looking forward to see how the offense comes out, see how Hamlin does starting, and some specific young guys like Elam, Dorian, Davis, Solomon, and Carter. Also, I’m quite concerned about Bass, so be interesting to see what he does if he gets any FG opportunities.

You thinking JuJu is worth this comment and then associating him with a player like Aiyuk is peak 2024 offseason for you lol. Have fun sitting alone on JuJu island. Maybe you can help him drain his knees

Those of us who laughed at your OP got that...not sure how many more did though ha

This guy gets me 😂

You bring up some good points here as well, and I understand how you are getting to these thoughts. When I look at what you are presenting, which is data as a whole (as in whole 10 games of Dorsey in 2023, whole season in 2022, and Brady's whole 7 games) respectfully what I think is happening is that the data without the context of the individual games is leading you to a false positive conclusion to a degree. And by false positive, I mean that there was the assumption of another influence/force/etc in play for the reason for the lower rush attempts specifically in the 10 Dorsey games in 2023...in this case, that would be McDermott as you have mentioned. So let me explain further: Josh only averaged 4.4 YPC rushing under Brady. In fact, the only game he rushed for more than 4.5 yards was the Eagle game. A game where we were in a must win against what was then the #1 seed in the NFC and went to overtime. And quite honestly, a bad interception by Josh that game is why we also lost. Josh took off running more in that game trying to win. Its not that Josh was used as a runner so much more under Brady, its that Brady utilized Josh better in short yardage situations picking up key 3rd downs with sneaks or TD conversions. There were only 3 games where Josh had noticeably more attempts than under Dorsey...The Chiefs game (a must win agiainst the SB Champs), Patriots week 17 where 10 of his 11 carries only went for only 25 yards, and the final must win game against the Dolphins with the 2 seed and Divisional Title on the line. Dorseys 3 biggest offensive outputs of the season were weeks 2, 3, and 4 where Josh only had a combined 10 carries across those 3 games because did not need to run in those blowout wins, everything was working in the pass game. When you look at the final 4 games before Dorsey was fired, Josh averaged 6.5 carries per game, not much difference than Bradys 7 game average. In our 5 losses under Dorsey in 2023 Josh averaged 6 carries per game as well. So while you are not wrong by any means on identifying the lower rush attempts across 10 games for Dorsey in 2023, a big part of that is because in 3 blow out wins Josh did not need to run and only had 3 carries per game average. And while you are also not wrong about Josh averaging more carries under Brady, a big part of that were because of a couple big must win games and a more strategic use of Josh to convert down and short. I do not think the reason we didn't win those 5 games was because Josh didn't average the 1 more carry per game to match what he averaged during Brady's 7 game stretch where we went 6-1. For me...the context of the games tells me that the discrepancy likely has a lot more to do with game flow and how the OC called the games in certain situations, how Josh audibles at the line or improvised live in games in key moments than any outside force coming in with a heavy influence like McD. When I take a step further back, I look at our history under McD. He has consistently discussed not wanting to change Josh or limit his game. He, as well as Beane, Josh himself, and whoever the OC is have all had the same consistent message to take less damage out there and get out of bounds more and slide more. Then you look at the reluctancy of Dorsey to use Cook more and most importantly get Shakir involved more, the forcing of the ball to Diggs, stupid play calls in critical moments, etc and suddenly there are a lot more things that feel like are the culprit to our offensive struggles that have nothing to do with McD or Josh as a runner. So respectfully, I still disagree that I think McD had restricted Dorsey from using Josh at all as a runner. I don't think the data suggests that at all when you take a closer look and factor in game flow, magnitude of the games, how Josh was used as a runner in those moments, etc. IMHO it was Dorsey who just wasn't able to get himself out of a skid as defenses figured out how to disrupt his offense. The way he called games felt like he was stubbornly sticking to the pre-game script rather than making adjustments and just had no answers for what he was seeing out there. His refusal to recognize the talent on the roster and use it better was not only an issue this year, but also in 2022. And that was exactly what I saw on the field every week when I watched the games. Dorseys tenure was the most I ever screamed at my TV during games about an OC since Hackett was here.

Yeah I agree, this is nothing

Are these your posts below or did someone ghostwrite them? Is your message not that you think McD was interfering with Dorsey? Because that is what you have stated quite clearly many times here. So what am I comprehending so poorly? I don't even know what you expect anyone to take from your posts other than you believe McD was interfering with Dorsey and his offense. If that is not your stance...then woof...I don't even know what to say because its been your entire message the whole thread.

Dude...is your name @DabillsDaBillsDaBills because that is who I was replying to and talking to about something he politely sent to me. Maybe read before responding because this post had nothing to with you.

Thats fair, so lets look at the full context to answer your question: They have been wanting Josh to run less for 5 years now, it wasn't some sudden change only under Dorsey. Even when Daboll was here, every offseason the discussion was to have Josh take less hits to protect their quarter of a billion dollar investment. Allen goes down, so does the whole team. When Brady took over we were essentially in a must win situation almost every week, and certainly after the Eagles loss. So I think its pretty reasonable to see an increase in Josh doing everything he can to win in must win situations. Brady used Allen's legs MUCH more strategically than Dorsey ever did. There is no question what so ever that McD, Beane, and whoever the OC is would prefer Josh to take less punishment and have to run and take hits so much. Josh himself said he doesn't like to run or want to run if he doesn't have to, but we also know Josh will leave it all out there on every play in key moments and games. But no, I do not at all think McD came in and told Dorsey that you have to keep Allen from running. McD does not want to take that out of Allens game, and has spoken about that and how they "have to let Josh be Josh" and play free out there. What he really wants is Allen to take less hits/punishment...he wants him to not fight for meaningless or unnecessary few extra yards where he takes big hits instead of sliding or getting out of bounds. McD has talked many times about what a weapon it is to have a QB like Josh who can make those kinds of plays with his legs, pick up the 3rd and 1, 4th and 1 with such a high degree of success.

Lol...I have repeatedly now said that you blame Dorseys failures on some alleged McD interference you insist was happening (despite any evidence, proof, facts, film supporting it, etc)...you then say that is not what you said...BUT then proceed to give another example showing that is exactly what you said. Feel like I am some dude on a prank show who hasn't figured out he is on a prank show yet.