Alphadawg7
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I agree Rodgers is a better QB, but Edwards has a much better record. Are the Bills that much more talented of a team than the Packers?
Geezus, another QB records comparison to Trent...when does it stop...Trents record stinks, its below .500 and we didnt win because he had good games, in fact, many of those wins he had an average game at best. We also missed the playoffs last year after a 6-2 start because Trent was BEYOND bad in ALL four division games, all of which we still almost won despite his 4 horrible games in them (the other two were equally bad by JP). And almost ALL of our wins with him as our QB came against teams with LOSING records...
GB's record last year was NOT becuase of bad QB play...they suffered from a below average defense and a struggling running game with a much tougher schedule.
Not to mention, Rodgers has only played one season and 4 games...OF COURSE he had a few growing pains, but overall he is lightyears better than Trent.
So please, enough with the "look at his record" statement...
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What happened to all those people crying about the rankings after we beat the hapless Bucs? So much for the conspiracy against the Bills huh? Or was just maybe people outside Buffalo look at our team with a more realistic set of eyes instead of "conspiring" to ignore the Bills and disrespect us like fans with "homer" goggles think they do...
People were pissed we werent ranked higher than the Dolphins who literally just made us look like a High School football team...People were crying about respect...respect we had YET to earn considering we hadnt (and still havent) beaten a team with a winning record since 2007 or won a divisional game since 2007...
This is why meaningless wins against terrible teams dont get you flying up the rankings, especially when you are known as a team to beat bad teams and get prison raped by good ones. Not to mention, all of our typical offensive problems were glaringly present in both of our two games:
An O Line in flux, a QB who cant throw down field or to WR's, a incredibly EASY to predict offense, and a knack for losing close games.
Add in the key injuries too, and we were ranked just right where we should have been and will be even lower now where we once again deserve to be.
The funniest thing I find when I see people crying about the lack of respect is ESPN's alleged hatred of the Bills. When we are winning ESPN and media sources love it and pump us up. When we were 4-0 and even 6-2 we were getting all kinds of love from ESPN and other outlets, including several analysts saying its great for the NFL when we are winning. We get plenty of attention when we deserve it...just like the majority of the NFL franchises...our irrelevance is our OWN creation, not some ESPN conspiracy...
ESPN hates us theory is one of the dumbest theories I have even seen...demanding respect after starting 1-1 with a national spot light loss to NE and an average win against a terrible team accompanied by no victories against oppinents with a winning record or divisional wins since 2007 is probably the second dumbest thing I have seen...
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I love Jaws and think he is great but he also said JP was going to be a super star QB in the NFL.....
Maybe he meant UFL???
Lots of scouts and analysts said this, especially after JP was the 11th rated QB and in top 5 in several categories that last year as a starter.
Jaws is actually one of the most reliable analysts on televised football...he is usually pretty spot on. But, Bills fans hate anyone who doesnt say something nice, or give us the "respect" they delusionally think we should have...
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in 22 years of coaching shottenheimer finished 1 or 2 in his division 17 times, but at 66 he's probably to old to want to get back in to coaching,
Marty said last year he would be interested in a GM position but doesnt want to coach...I will never buy into a coach saying he doesnt want to coach, but Marty at GM here would be pretty sweet and then he could bring in an established winner as a coach like Cowher, Holmgren, Shannahan, etc, etc...
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Rob Johnson was known to do that too. In fact, in one such game in which he put up huge stats while playing through a sprained ankle, he so bewitched a visiting owner who happened to be attending the game as a guest of Wayne Weaver that said owner traded for him the next season: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxs...99708310rav.htm .
He was known to do this in only that one single game never to do it again...Rodgers continuously does this...
This is one of those times you gotta just throw in the towel and realize you stuck your foot in your mouth on this one...
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Well....now we know who told San Francisco to draft Alex Smith....
Nice
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Enh. Rogers may look better than Edwards, but the guy looks like the second coming of Rob Johnson to me. A California with good stats, not that many victories, way too many sacks, and some brittleness.
Really Dave? I am a lil surprised by your post...especially since GB's record last season was not becuase of poor play by Rodgers, but more on the defense and lack of running game. Way too many sacks thing is because they had a 3rd string Tackle going against the best pass rusher in football. How you can compare Rodgers to Rob is shocking, I mean Rob isnt even a quality backup with poor field vision, not QB IQ, and fumbles because the wind blows. Rodgers is one of the brightest young QB's in the game and a class act to boot. I bet if GB traded him they could easily get at min 2 first round picks right now...
Craziest part is he is doing all this behind a terrible O Line
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Honestly, if we had a real QB I think this season would be going much better, so DJ is in a lose lose situation. Trent is killing DJ's career, not the other way around IMO. That being said, I think the start has also caused him to lose his team and a change needs to be made now. A lot of players just seem like they dont care at times. Trent needs to be benched to send a message to this team, but DJ just doesnt seem to have the balls to do it unless he does it today.
So, we definitely need a change, someone willing to come in and rock the ship like pulling Trent from the starting lineup.
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Standford Trent Edwards......................................................Buffalo Trent Edwards
Games Started: 31/35............................................................Games Started: 27/28
38 TDs/33 Ints........................................................................23 TDs/23 Ints
Yds per Pass: 6.3....................................................................Yds per Pass: 6.7
Pct Passing: 56.3 (487/865)....................................................Pct Passing: 61.3 (466/760)
Most Yds in a game: 303 (AZ State '05)..................................Most Yds in a game: 289 (NYJ '08)
Avg Yds per game: 155.5........................................................Avg Yds per game: 182.8
Most Ints in a game: 3 (5 Times).............................................Most Ints in a game: 3 (3 Times)
Most TDs in a game: 4 (San Jose State '06)............................Most TDs in a game: 4 (MIA '07)
Sacks: 84 (1/10.3 dropbacks).................................................Sacks: 51 (1/14.9 dropbacks)
Overall Record in Games Started: 18-31 (36.73%).................Overall Record in Games Started: 13-14 (48.15%)
Stanford QB Trent Edwards "Highlights" #3
Seems to me, this is the EXACT same player that played for Stanford. Checkdowns instead of hitting WRs, no pocket awareness/movement, isn't used to winning/wanting the ball in his hands with the game on the line. In high school he had unreal numbers. Stanford may have ruined his development. He is what he is now and it's time to move on...
I see you took my info on Trent at Stanford I told you about during the game and ran with it...nice..
Here is the funniest part, I have posted these very stats several times, but I always got flamed by the Trent apologists and most ignored them. I have been saying since last year, Trent was not a play maker in college and then people would come back with how much Bill Walsh thought of him. Well Bill Walsh also was so high JJ Stokes (calling him the next Jerry Rice) that he traded up to draft him...he was a bust. Point is, just becuase he liked him doesnt mean he was right. Great as Walsh was, he was still wrong plenty of times.
But when I showed those stats people said I hated Trent. The reason I showed those stats was to show that Trent was still living on his HIGH SCHOOL hype coming into the draft. The quality of the Stanford team was used as an excuse to validate his marginal play while there and it was assumed he still had all this potential based on what he displyaed PRE Stanford.
I will say it again, he never lived up to his potential at Stanford nor the NFL. One last point you left out too...in his last year at Stanford they LOST every single game EXCEPT for the ONE game Trent did NOT play in...hmmmmm
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bull **** - watch Big Ben. Edwards can't go through a progression. He can't sense pass rush. He can't throw down the middle of the field. He's a 2nd rate QB, period.
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You know, Edwards is looking bad right now, and he may in fact be bad. But in the midst of your crusade against him this past year, you mentioned numerous times that you "wanted him to succeed" and "hoped to be wrong." Now it's pretty clear that you're glad that you were right, and have basically degenerated into unseemly gloating. It's almost to to the point where I'd guess that if Edwards in fact died, you'd hold a dance party on his grave. Seriously, you're embarassing yourself right now with the "I told you so" stuff and the complete lack of self-awareness that you're playing to type. Yes, he doesn't appear to be good, but give it a rest. Move on; I'm sure the Bills will themselves move on and get another QB in the near future.
Funny, I am wearing Trents jersey at this very moment and wore all day at the bar while getting bagged on by lame ass drunk Dolphin and Jets fans...
This isnt about gloating about Trent, this is about this dude dog14787 making all these lame claims to Trents greatness, flip flopping, calling me stupid for being honest about Trents short comings and areas of improvements, etc etc...
If you honestly think I want Trent to fail so I can be right on a message board, even though I desperately want the Bills to win, then you are too dumb to even converse with...
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Whats the deal with the flip flop with you, are you really that dense. Perceptions can change from week to week or is that beyond your comprehension.
Wasting everyone's time pointing out I'm finally getting fed up with our QB's play is Stupid on your part don't you think.
Are you just that stupid?
literally just a few replies above that statement you were defending trent and making up phantom concussions to create new excuses for him...then when everyone jumped on your crap you jumped ship a few replies later...
Not to mention, you do this on all kinds of topics where you say one thing in one thread and something completely different in another literally the same day...
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At least TE has an excuse for being brain dead, whats yours.
Wait, his excuse is a made up second concussion by you last season?
And two, I love how you say I am brain dead and know nothing about football yet I was 100% spot on with my evaluation of Trent and it kills you now that everyone else see the same things in him I have been talking about since last year.
Your response was to turn on him and call for a bench of Captain Checkdown (as you called him) 2 posts below where you were arguing he struggled becuase of a second concussion....
Dude, you are priceless...
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Captain Checkdown needs to be sat down and bring on Fitz.
????????? You just went through all this effort to create a phantom concussion to make yet another excuse for your beloved Trent, and then just below it you write this?
Man, this is too much...lmao...you really are the king of flip flop
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Trent is SUPPOSED to be SMARTER than Kelly & MOST other QB's in the league. It would be EXTREMELY STUPID to hide a concussion. That could affect a person for the rest of his life.
Hahaha, nice call...read my sig and you will see one his many quotes on how much smarter Trent is then Kelly...
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I believe Trent Edwards suffered a second concussion last season , but that's pure speculation on my part because TE shook it off and continued playing.
TE shows zero signs of it so far this season and for someone afraid to get hit, TE sure seems to be getting clocked enough.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Wow, I knew the excuses were going to get thick up in here, but that is priceless!
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Lets not forget the most important injury, the concussion Trent Edwards suffered that clearly effected his play in the second half of the season. I think its fair to say injuries played a big role in another 7-9 season in my opinion.
Of course its easier to just blame Captain Checkdown for poor play.
Hmmm...his first game back against SD was one of his good games last season, so funny how that concucssion thing comes and goes huh? LMAO at the concussion theory...
If you have never had a concussion then you probably shouldnt talk about it. I got one my junior year in college lighting up a TE over the middle and I missed one game and there were no lingering effects. Trent also said he had no lingering effects, but I realize its the only excuse left you can hang your hat on so I see why you last few still use it...
Make no mistake, the concussion itself had nothing to do with his play, maybe his fear of another did, but as far as his head goes, he was fine.
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what game did you watch? we ran for like 46 yards and the dolphins were in the backfield all day. fire brandon and dick, trent has no O-line. when he did (NE and TB) he was fine
He was fine? He did exactly the same thing in the NE and TB games...which is he DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO THROW DOWNFIELD AND INVOLVE THE WR"S CONSISTENTLY...how is this still confusing to anyone?
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The only thing Trent has pwned is the blooper real...
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Henne just threw a pass to a WR.
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It bothers me that Henne and Edwards look about the same
yup, thats sad
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The offense is getting too predictable.
Getting?
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That's what happens when you can't trust your QB to beat a blitz on 3rd down.
DING DING DING
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I'm trying to give him a chance and I officially can't anymore.
Plenty of time and he can't lead his receiver. Throw to a spot, not the guy.
Your paid millions to play. Take the hit if you have to to get it out. Stand in the
pocket, and relax. Every short pass just gives the D the excuse to play close to the
line of scrimmage and makes it worse on you.
Been saying this since last year and I got flamed by many each time...
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