Alphadawg7
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Ya know I've been thinking... Since 1999 we've had one QB who knew what he was doing, and as disappointing as he was it was Drew Bledsoe. Aside from him, we've had Rob Johnson, Alex Van Pelt, Kelly Holcomb, JP Losman, and now Trent Edwards.
Johnson had problems with holding the ball too long and either checking down or throwing a bomb.
Van Pelt... God Bess him he tried.
Kelly Holcomb: Captain Check down, took what defense gave him
JP Losman: Long bombs or check down. Also held onto the ball too long
Trent Edwards: Captain check down and is holding the ball too long.
In college these guys threw down field. I know the pro game is a world of difference, but there can't be a single one of the QB's we had, excluding Van Pelt and Bledsoe, that didn't want to throw it to the starting wide receivers and not the running back or slot receiver.
To me it's obvious that our last few coaches simply tell their QB's to take no risks with the football. QB is a position full of risks. Do you think Brett Favre wa thinking about throwing picks when he won that barn burner vs. San Fran a couple weeks ago? I know none of the guys we had are Favre, but even decent QB's take chances. It's like the Bills coach them to not lose instead of win.
We sit here year after year blaming the QB's, when to me it's clearly a lack of confident coaching that just ruins the play of every QB we've had. Thoughts?
Trent didnt throw downfield in college either and had only one 300 yard game and nearly a 1:1 TD to INT ratio...he is exactly who he was in college...
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Edwards is probably only one or two more Pat LaFontaine hits away from concussion problems given the number of hits he has taken behind the least experienced NFL offensive line. That is, if he hasn’t already been having issues. Trent Edwards has been behind a sub-par line all through college and with the Bills. If you were QB of the Bills, would you want to have this collection of rookies and bench-sitters protecting you from 270 pound bull-rushing defensive ends and all-out blitzing safeties? Is it any wonder the guy is shell-shocked to the point where the first instinct is to bail-out? The OL is everything on offense and besides Edwards having issues, it will be tough to run the ball with a rookie OL. Would anyone be really surprised with a one-win season with the mess we have right now?
Edwards was shell shocked and sucked big time last year, our line was fine last year, so whats your excuse for his pitiflul year last year?
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Dry or not humor has to at least have an appearance of being funny.
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WILSON
Bills owner Ralph Wilson decided that making a coaching change in the middle of the season was not the right thing to do, at least for now.
"Yesterday was so bad that it's hard to make a decision right now," Wilson said prior to the Monday Quarterback Club luncheon. "I'm not going to make any decisions during the middle of the season right now. At least right now."
During the luncheon, Wilson tried to make light of his team's poor performance.
Not really that surprising...I mean who is going to take over? The more important change needs to be made at QB
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Derrick Brooks is a pipe dream! They will bring in their own bargain retread and say that they brought him back because he knows the system.
Derrick Brooks has told way better teams NO, so its not a pipe dream becuase we wont call, its a pipe dream because he would never tell us yes when he has WAY better options, including his current job...
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.....or is the inexperience of an O-Line and the undersize of the D-Line?
Treant has never had a Good Line!!
Not even in college!!
Its Trents fault more than DJ by a mile...better QB play gets us more points in NE which equals a win...better QB play wins us the NO game, hell, Brian Moorman probably could have beat Cle at QB...that equals 4-1 with better QB play, and all those wins definitely happen with a competent QB.
I dont want to hear about his QB rating in NE either...we left so many opportunities out there on the field becuase Trent just couldnt get the ball down field...which is why with essentially the same number of posessions NE had more than double our first downs...and first downs are a way more important stat than QB rating which rewards weak conservative play.
Dont get me wrong, the O Line hasnt been good (but other teams have been winning with bad O line play too), and I think DJ needs to be fired as this team just doesnt seem to have any passion or fire. However, if we had a decent QB we would be sitting 4-1 right now and DJ's job would be safe...
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The best way for Ralph to move the team is to employ a coaching staff that fosters:
1.anger 2.disgust 3.apathy
amongst the local fanbase.
No wonder Dickless Jauron is his head coach.
Much less uproar will result in relocating a team that causes its fans much more pain than pleasure.
My analogy is a wife that:
cheats (1.anger), drinks excessively (2.disgust), and stops regular sex with the husband (3.apathy).
Before too long the husband naturally wants a divorce despite the consequences.
I suggest that by the time Ralph moves the team
...you'll be glad to see them GO despite the consequences.
GO BILLSThe depths of stupidity fanboys here will go to in order to create some conspiracy plan to justify the crappy product is hilarious...
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We'll just have to agree to disagree. Lynch is faster, physically tougher, and makes quicker cuts. He's also a better receiver. I think Jackson is a nice player, btw. I don't mean to dog him. But the difference in physical talent seems pretty freakin' obvious to me.
What? I dont have a problem if you like Lynch over Jackson, but come on now with this he is a better reciver stuff and faster. Jackson plays with more game speed than Lynch and totally has better hands and runs better routes. Dont get me wrong, I like Lynch, but Jackson to me is a more complete RB mainly becuase Lynch still doesnt hit the hole fast enough or hard enough because he dances too much behind the line. He also drops too many passes...
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Brooks has told several teams NO, teams way better than us, so why on earth would he tell the 1-4 Bills yes who have a joke of a QB that cant score any points even when the D plays well?
I mean seriously, think about it...he told other teams, teams with winning potential this year NO...he is not telling us yes
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there is an option. And this option needs to be done. Wipe out that joke of a front office and install Holmgren (or equivelent) ASAP. The rest of the season can still be valuable time to evaluate and restructure.
Holmgren would have to want to be here too...two sides to the equation
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Thank you. This was my exact thought in another post about Edwards. DA played worse than Edwards, but his team still managed to win. People can blame TE all they want, but he is far from the problem on this half assed team.
Really? Who was a bigger problem today? Our Defense only gave up 6 points, 3 of which came off a botched punt. Our defense has been playing well enough for us to win but our offense cant move the ball. Last I checked, Trent touches the ball on offense on every single play...seems to me that translates into him being a really big problem with the offense. Not to mention he looks downright terrible even when he has time to throw.
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Let Bobby April coach out the season and work on getting a real head coach in here. I bet at least April would get SOME intensity and ballsy play out of the team.
Man, first you defend horrid play by a weak QB and now you asking the guy in charge of our second worst area on this team to take over as coach...how much credibility as a poster are you trying to lose in this thread?
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OK OK before u over emotional felines get bent outta shape, just calm down
I think that the company line reigns supreme at that clueless joint. There is no reason for that unit along with their coordinator not to break ranks and call out the offense and the coaching that have rendered this team absolutely unwatchable and pathetic.
I mean how does Derek Anderson come out with a win in this GAME!!!!!!
The Bills defense are without their starting safeties and middle and outside linebackers and are still keepin the team in the game, while this putrid and pathetic offense keeps sputttering.
Come on Guys call someone out in public and maybe, just maybe,. someone might light a fire here, because Jauron is basically a walking corpse in coaching and personality terma
Derek Anderson got a win today MUCH like how Trent has gotten a large chunk of his wins...Cle won INSPITE of DA's QB play...
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On April 2, 2009, the Bills traded Edwards (along with their first and third-round draft picks in 2009 and their first-round pick in 2010) to the Denver Broncos for Pro Bowl quarterback Jay Cutler.
Whoooooops.
But Trent is so much better than Cutler, just ask Magox, Southgeorgiabillsfan, Dog14787, etc...
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Do you really think Ralph still wants win? Considering he will not pay for a proven NFL coach, he will not pay for a GM, he will not pay to keep talent. Considering NFL revenue sharing, Bills merch, beer and popcorn and a home sell out he is nowhere near the poor house. I think the dude is 91 and wants to live the rest of his days stress free. Sell 49% and let someon else make the calls.
You do ralize DJ was a coach of the year winner before he came to Buffalo right? He had proven something and DJ was MARV LEVY's guy, so why does everyone still say he doesnt want to win and wont pay for a proven coach? Second, he has paid to keep talent...he just extended McGee, paid for TO, extended Lee, Schobel, etc...JP didnt want to be here and asked for a absurd contract to get out of Buffalo just so he could sign for less in Phi.
The dude has more money than the next 5 generations of his family can spend, if you think its about the money you are crazy. His passion is football, not money...
We are no where near the bottom of the NFL in spending...
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Accuracy
Really? wow...do you just look at the stats in the paper or watch the game? If you look at his completion % he looks accurate becuase he throws so many short dump offs that any 3rd string QB in the NFL can make with the same accuracy. But if you watch his down field throws they are wildly inaccurate, under thrown, over thrown, behind the recievers, defended passes, or INT's.
Trents accuracy has been a myth around here for a long time because it was masked by all his short completions, but he is in the bottom 5 amongst starters (nobody is worse than J. Russell) in the NFL today in downfield accuracy.
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It's not the qb. It's the organization. Players are coachable. But How many qb's have come here with good upside potential yet never bloom. It all points to one thing.
My plight is with this horrible showing by our team, people immediately start calling out Edwards when they need to start at the top, especially at this point.
So, yes, people immediately bickering about Edwards after this COMPLETE sh*tty play of a team, need to delete their account until they get the bigger picture.
Hope this helps!
More like how many QB's come into the NFL and never develop? Try almost ALL of them...Trent does not have the tools to be a succesful NFL QB. Look at that INT downfiled trying to throw to TO...he didnt have the arm strength to get that ball to TO who beat his man by 3 yards for an easy TD...instead its 5 yards underthrown and its an INT.
He cant read defenses well, throws terrible on the run, has no pocket presence, and has very poor timing on his throws...factor in his lack of confidence, poor protection of the ball, and lack of balls to throw downfield and you have a guy who will soon be on the bench for the rest of his career.
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or he does not really care.
1. The place was sold out
2. He sold lots of beer and popcorn
3. He sold lots of merchandise
4. And he will next home game too
Do you think a man as rich as him really cares at this point about money when he is nearing the end of his life? Anyone who thinks its about money is just crazy. He wants to win, keeps spending money to do so, unfortunately this team hasnt had a QB in over a decade and you wont win in the NFL without a QB or good coaching staff...its time to fire DJ and move on from the Trent Edwards failed experiment...until BOTH of those things happen this team will be in the garbage.
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For the Trent Defenders, go back and watch the Chargers game from last week. Rivers got blasted aall game and still made the throws. RBuger got destroyed last year and still performed. Warner has Gandy as his LT and he still gets it done. Even when Trent has time, he is still bad.
Or look at the GB v Min game where Rodgers was a tackling dummy to the tune of Allen getting 5 sacks by himself that game and was pressured all night yet still had a productive game...
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I'm neither a supporter nor defender of Edwards but there's not a QB on this planet who could do anything under this staff and behind that OLine. Not one. Maybe he'll be OK and maybe he'll end up sucking, but we'll never find out about him until he's put in a tenable situation.
He played with plenty of time behind the O Line last year and blew just as bad...in fact, he had plenty of time against Cle in last years game and proceeded to QB one of the worst games of QB play I have seen ever in the NFL...
It doesnt matter if he has time or no time, he just doesnt do anything with it. Even with a bad O Line, good QB's will be more productive than he has been...Trent hasnt been good on any level, ever, since High School...
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Trent Edwards is the problem? Are you kidding me? Trent Edwards is the problem? The problem has been around LOOONNNGGGGGGG before Trent Edwards got here. So think of all the cute little nicknames you can instead of spending time learning anything logically. While you're at it, delete your account because stupidity is like a virus and this place needs to be quarantined. Our children are already looking at a future in bad enough shape, no need for more stupidity added to it.
Hope this helps!
Delete your homerism account is more like it...Trent does not have what it takes at this point to be a starting caliber QB in the NFL...
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check this out...
http://losangeles.bizjournals.com/losangel...05/daily22.html
Did anyone even bother to read this article? It was from October 7th and it claims one of these 6 teams will be playing in Los Angeles, and the Bills are one of those 6...so clearly, there has been discussion between Buffalo and them otherwise they wouldnt have them on the list. The news article alone adds some validity to the OP statement. But hardly anyone even replied to the post about the news article...
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I can tell the weather is getting cold in Buffalo; brain cells are frezzing at an unbelievable pace. Why is everything dropped on the QB's back? First, you don't have and O-Line, anD-Line, corners, safties or wide out's that can separate; yet it's the QB's fault. There are a lot of teams in the NFL that would love to have your QB; and, in a year or so will.
Geezus, you need a secret decoder ring to make any sense out of this jumble you just wrote, but you clearly dont watch the games...Trent, with or without time does not produce squat...he continuously doesnt see open players...his downfield vision is amongst the worst (and one could argue the worst) of all starting QB's in the NFL right now...and thats no joke.
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their 4th game was a 30-10 loss against the dolphins on the road in which they had a total of 146 yards.
and THEY WON THE SUPERBOWL.
Ha. Seriously though - can you imagine the concept of this team winning the super bowl? try to wrap your brain around that for a few minutes. In 2001 Patsfans.com probably had the same mood as this place does today, but without the 400,000 bandwagon jumpers that would arrive a few months later.
(and no, i'm not expecting anything).
Ever heard of Drew Bledsoe and Tom Brady...those were their two QB's...Trent and Fitz wouldnt have even made that team...
VENTING THREAD
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TRENT EDWARDS IS THE SECOND S***IEST STARTING QB CURRENTLY IN THE NFL BEHIND ONLY JAMARCUS RUSSEL!!!