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You are also talking about the team that let Favre walk, despite the fact that he carried the facking franchise for his entire career there. They also DID NOT make any attempt whatsoever to sign Randy Moss when they had the chance. So really I have no faith in Packers' personnel decisions anyway.
Randy Moss was never elligible to be "signed" until after he was in NE and GB had absolutely no need for Moss with the arsenal of WR's they have. Not to mention, Moss never wanted to leave NE and Tom Brady...
So the only thing I can think of that you could be talking about is prior when Farve needed a weapon...but there is a problem there too, Moss was NEVER a free agent until after his first year in NE...so how could they have "signed" him?
So they NEVER had a chance to sign Moss...ever...where do you come up with this dribble? Not to mention, just about everyone thinks that Rodgers was the right decision after seeing him play now. Which shows, they know more about their personel then fans who are blinded by names and past glory.
GB's front office is one of the better ones in football
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the only thing i care about is that we're not being given credit where credit's due....thats all
What credit is due to us?
We lost to the Pats - and I dont want to hear about the fumble...if Leodis downs the ball there is still a lot of time on the clock and the Pats have 4 timeouts, the game was far from over. Not to mention, we still had time to get in position to win with a FG and enough time to do so and we managed one completion.
We then beat one of the 5 least talented teams in football - and didnt exactly do so decisively as we let them hang around most of the second half.
If you remember last year, they bumped us to #5 after beating the 4 worst teams in football (and barely winning 3 of those) and kept us in the top 10 after falling to 6-2 even though all 6 wins were against sub .500 teams and the 2 losses were to teams with winning records. So how did we respond? We went 1-7 and missed the playoffs.
So since we havent beat a winning team since 2007, what respect do you think we deserve? And who really cares about the rankings anyway...like I said from #5 last year to a 1-7 finish...the rankings did nothing for us then either...
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Hey gang, I hope you guys don’t mind a Saints fan being here for a bit. I don’t talk trash and I like to be truthful about my team so I wont be an obnoxiously over the top homer.
This is actually the first time I have joined a non division rival’s forum but I decided it would be the best way to learn about a team I don’t know much about (I knew more about them in the day - loved Thurman Thomas and was a huge Bruce Smith fan). I did watch the game against the Pats and I won’t even mention how it ended but I loved what I saw of Edwards and the no huddle scares me with our D. I’m sure you guys can tell me plenty about our DC and I’m looking forward to hearing it. Yes we are all worried about our D here in NOLA but right now our biggest problem is special teams IMO. It was horrible against the Lions and it got better in Philly but still is plenty weak.
Anyway, I look forward to posting with you for the week and maybe beyond if you have me. Ask me anything about the Saints and Ill answer honestly if I know. Thanks. Street
Your best D is your offense...the keys to the game will be this:
1. Ball control by the Bills - Stopping the Saints O is just not going to happen, all we can hope is to slow it down a bit. The best way to do that is to keep them off the field, so I expect to see a heavy dose of Fred Jackson this week. Since we run the no huddle, we really will need to slow down a bit on getting to the line to eat some precious clock time up.
2. Our WR's have to be more involved - If we get into a shoot out (based on what Brees has done thus far, thats quite probable) we will need our best playmakers involed with Lee and TO and thus far they just arent touching the ball enough.
3. We have to Jam your WR's...Its amazing how far off the DB's have been playing against your WR's. Seems teams are so afraid of getting beat deep that they are playing way off the WR. For us to be able to slow your Offense, we absolutely have to jam your WR's at the line to give our defensive line time to put pressure on Brees by making him hold the ball longer.
4. Turnovers - We will not be able to afford any turnovers. They are always bad, but against such an offensive juggernaught like the Saints, they can be even more costly.
5. First downs - we must move the ball consistently, we cant afford so many short drives. Even if we only get a FG, we have to keep the chains moving and the Saints off the field.
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I know the point your trying to make but it is what it is. But even if we beat the next to teams, we probably still won't crack the top 15.
Really? We were ranked #5 last year after 4 games even though all we did was beat the 4 worst teams in football...and barely beat 3 of them at that
Hell, we were still top 10 at 6-2 even though we only beat teams with bad records (and barely beat most of them) and lost to the only 2 good teams we had played so far at that point.
So I dont get why you would say they would never move us up the rankings.
As far as why wer are not higher now, maybe the fact that our team went 1-7 to finish the season last year when we had an inflated record against bad teams (most of which we struggled to beat). So rather than get all carried away with our ranking after a good but not great outing against the Pats and beating one of the 5 least talented teams in the NFL, maybe they want to see us beat a team (which we havent done since 2007) with a winning record before they catapult us up the rankings.
FYI: If McKelvin doesnt take the ball out and downs it, the game was still FAR from over. There was a lot of time left and the Pats would have had essentially 4 timeouts. The fumble helped sure, but it didnt seal our fate as we still had time to win the game ourselves and even if he takes the touchback Brady might have still gotten the ball back with over a minute and half and a timeout still.
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Jamon Meredith, OL, South Carolina
If NFL teams are looking for an offensive lineman to come in and contribute immediately, they can look no further than this South Carolina Gamecock. To say Meredith is high on the experience factor would be an understatement. He redshirted as a freshman after playing in one game, and coming into 2008 he had started 28 consecutive games; 29 in total dating back to his freshman season. Meredith started 18 straight at left tackle protecting his quarterback's blind side, but recently he has been forced to show his versatility. He had to sit out two games at the start of this season due to having played during his 2005 redshirt year, and coach Steve Spurrier moved him to guard upon his return. In addition to his football skills (which include running under 5.0 in the 40-yard-dash despite his size), Meredith is outstanding in the classroom and will bring no off-the-field concerns with him into the next level. Right now he looks like a second-rounder in the 2009 draft. Meredith has the frame to get even bigger and he needs to show he can truly dominate a game up front before NFL brass will be convinced to go for him in round one.
sounds like a good move to me
Yeah, but because the posters dont know his name they say its a bad move...
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Folks need to remember Trent Edwards is still a pup. As much as I love Jim Kelly if you compare the two QB's , Trent Edwards is a smarter, more accurate and mobile QB in my opinion. We also have to remember Jim Kelly had a much better supporting cast then TE does and JK didn't have to go up against the best QB that has ever played the game twice a year. If Kelly faced the Patriots of the last decade during his career its very possible the consecutive Superbowl's never even happen.
Jim Kelly faced Marino twice a year...so how does this post even make sense...
And you STILL have not answered my question above...
And on what grounds to claim Trent is smarter and more accurate than Jim Kelly?
Its statements like this that get me caught up in arguing threads. Someone asked (in my thread where I apologized for getting caught up with all the people making outlandish claims about Trent) who makes these claims...well here is one right here. You just not only compared Trent to Kelly (a HOF QB and one of the top 20 all time), but also said he was a smarter and more accurate QB than Kelly...geezus
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LMAO...10-1 he completely ignores this thread now
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One thing I never understood was the how the Bills O-line players didn't seem to match the scheme they were expected to play. Until recently, the Bills had the 2nd heaviest O-line in the NFL, yet they were not a mauling or grinding type offense. This year with the implementation of the no huddle, the ejection of a 368lb tackle, a 345 lb tackle, and 326 lb guard, maybe we have the personnel to match the system that coach Kugler is trying to implement. I don't think any of our starters are over 310 lbs. Notice how there seems to be a lot more movement with pulling guard/center, or screen plays.
Should we give credit where credit is due and say the Bills matched the right type of players for the right system...hence the current success in the running and passing game? Needless to say, I like where they are going, compared to where they were.
thoughts?
Simple answer = Because they are more talented
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Still waiting dog...answer the question...
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What exactly are you laughing at?
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Somewhat unfortunate that TO dropped that beautiful pass, it seemed to travel more than 50 yards in the air and I guess that kind of kills that ridiculous criticism that he can't air it out.
Of course he can throw the ball 40-50 yards downfield, he is an NFL QB and I seriously doubt there is a single QB in the NFL, including Pennington who cant throw the ball 40-50 yards in the air (hell I can).
The judge of the ability to get the ball down that far is how much air the ball needs to arrive there. Trent tends to use a lot of air to get the ball that far, and thats been the criticism of his arm strength over his career. The problem with having so much air on the ball is two fold:
1. You give the opposing defenders more time to react and therefore make a play on the ball. One example is the Lee Evans throw to the endzone that was knocked out of his hands at the last second (it wasnt a drop). Just a lil too much air on that throw or its a TD...still was a great throw by Trent and I am pretty sure it had that much loft because thats just how Trent threw it as opposed to it having anything to do with his arm. I only used that example as to illustrate a pit faill of too much air on the ball.
2. The QB has to make a quicker decision to air the ball deep because he wont have the angle or velocity to let the ball go in time to hit the WR in stride once he is a certain distance down field. This results in underthrown balls and INTs, passes defended, and your WR getting his bell rung on a big hit.
Both can be overcome (see Joe Montanna for one obvious example), but it just means the QB needs to make up for it on timing and his ability to read the secondary.
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I'll give TE an A+ for effort, especially after his one run. B+ overall, wasn't perfect
In the first 2 games Buffalo's WR's have accounted for 13 receptions, 201 yards and 2 TD's
Buffaloes TE's, 12 receptions, 129 yards and 1 TD,
RB (Fred Jackson) 11 receptions 108 yards receieving and 1 TD
Very evenly distributed in my opinion.
When your WR's are Lee Evans and Terrel Owens, 13 receptions is not evenly distributed for them combined in 2 games. They should have atleast double that.
So while the offense is improving, we really need to find a way to get the WR's more touches, especially with NO on deck
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I know Freddy is doing a great job, but there has been a few times where if Lynch had been in there and hit the hole the way he does, the run would have gone for big yards, heck maybe long T.Ds. I for one can't wait to have a one two punch of Lynch and Jackson. The interior Oline is blocking its butt off, Jackson is doing good, but Lynch will really benefit from their blocking.
Really? You do realize that the worst part of Lynch's game is how he hits the hole right? Lynch has even acknowledged this in the past that he dances too much behind the line and isnt decisive enough. In fact, its one of the biggest things Jackson does better than Lynch.
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That was his first TD in 12 games. I love Evans too but if all he does is catch TD's that means he did nothing for 11 games.
That was about 90% Trent/JP QB combo and 10% Lee though last year...
If Lee would have been in Phi last year he would have had 15 TD's
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Umm the difference is they need two TDs to win as opposed to a TD and a FG to tie. What am I missing?

ding ding ding, we have a winner.
FG = 2 TD to lose game
Going for it and not getting it = 1 TD and a FG to tie and adds in the risk of a turnover fighting for a tough yard.
The smart move based on the amount of time left on the clock is to take the FG. If we dont and they get a big play TD (see Oakland last year against us late in the game) then all they need is a FG if they recover the onside which means they only need 20 yards or so.
If they happen to score after we make the FG, then they still need to recover an onside and march 50+ yards for a TD with hardly no time.
IF there was a couple more minutes on the clock, you go for it, but at that exact moment in time, the safest choice is to kick the FG and make the uphill climb even harder for the Bucs.
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one of us is high
Out of morbid curiosity, please explain to me how you think Kolb hasnt been terrible and how he is better than Trent, or even Fitz for that matter...
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Yeah, and Trent has been just sooo stellar.

Its no secret I have been critical of Trent, but there is no way in hell Kolb is better than Trent. Kolb has been awful...going into todays game, Kolb played 18 series and had 0 TD's and 6 turnovers...his day today wasnt good either...sure he had a lot of yards, but thats because NO ran away with the game in the second half and he had to throw non stop.
He now has 2 TD's, and 9 turnovers...his throws are terrible, his first TD to DeSean could have been completed by mom as DJ was wide open by about 20 yards...he makes terrible decisions too boot...
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1. TO and Lee each had a long TD pass down the sideline. Each also dropped a big play ball.
2. Nothing wrong with pounding the run when your back is ripping of 168 yards @ 5.8 yards per carry.
3. Trent utilizes the middle of the field effectively, consistently moving the chains on passes underneath all during the 4th quarter FG drive, and setting up the big play to TO later at the same time. I think Josh Reed had 2 big receptions in the middle on 3rd down - may have been three.
4. This is not fantasy football.
It brings to mind the old cliche: if it isn't broken, don't fix it.
1. Only you could possible think we are using our WR's enough. Even AVP himself said after the game he needs to get the WR's more involved. Take away the 2 catches for TD's and you wouldnt hardly notice our WR's were in the game. And FYI, the drop by Evans was not a drop, the defender knocked the ball away...watch the replay.
2. His audibles are more often than not predictable...no biggie, but most were runs last game and this game. Just needs to mix it up more to keep them off their toes better.
3. Um, we neglect the middle of the field. Based on your previous threads and confrontational approach, its probably not worth the time to try and discuss how we can use the middle better (as it specifically pertains to the wideouts). But I will say this, 2 passes to Reed doesnt equal using the middle of the field effectively for an entire game.
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They definitely need to get the WRs involved alot more. He really needs to look TOs way more often.
And even if Trent went 32 for 33 with 4 TDs and no INTs, people here would be all over him for that one incompletion. There is not one QB in the league that doesn't look bad on a few plays per game. Anyone see Brady today? He was not good.
Yes, QB's do have some bad plays (excpet for Kurt Warner today...did you see his record completion % of over 92%, geezus, lol) and Trent responded well to his terrible INT today with his strike to TO. But, none the less, you cant ignore bad plays when handing out grades, which is why I graded him a B.
It was a good outing, but we missed some opportunities, he under threw some balls, had an INT, and couldnt move the ball in the 3rd. Now the positives outweigh the negatives for sure, so he gets a B. Its a great game to build on
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I know it's only the second game for AVP as OC, but this guy seems to have started ahead of the learning curve. He has been much better than that other guy we had in just these two games. He will get the WRs more involved as he stated himself after the game, and he can only get better the more experience he gets I would hope. Apparently the other guy never advanced in that category. Other than getting the WRs more involved, the offense is still a little predictable in certain situations (like 2nd downs) as they still run too much, but I did notice a little less of that today. I have great expectations for AVP and his offense as the season progresses.
This is putting the cart way before the horse, but could he be DJs replacement someday?
AVP has made a noticeable mark on this offense in terms of gettig it going. I am glad to hear he knows he needs to get the WR's more involved because our schedule just gets harder and we will need them much more involved to make the playoffs this year...but all in all, a very encouraging start for him.
Things he needs to fix:
1. Get WR's more involved
2. Teach Trent an audible that isnt a run
3. Figure out how to use the middle of the field more
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Kevin Kolb is better than any QB on the Bills roster
You are high off your arse...Kolb has been atrocious in his NFL experience so far...
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i'd say on both passes to evans there was a little too much loft.
Agreed...Trent underthrew that one in the endzone just a bit that was knocked out of Evans hands (he didnt drop it as some think he did)...not by much, but just enough to let the defender make a play on the ball. If he doesnt get too much air and under throw it a bit then that would have been a TD.
None the less, the defender still had to make an amazing play to prevent the TD
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Didnt read the whole thread, but I am just going to chime in here.
Jackson, IMO, is the better all around back. He is a better reciever, more explosive, just as powerful, equally elusive, and has better vision. More importantly, he hits the whole with a lot more authority as Lynch dances too much.
That doesnt mean Lynch isnt a good RB, but I think Jackson is just that good. He is a lot more dynamic IMO...
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exactly. the defender got a hand on the ball and knocked it away. I put that one on Trent--underthrew it a tad.
Yeah, if Trent doesnt under throw it a bit then Lee likely makes the grab. None the less, it was an outstanding play by the defender because Lee almost certainly comes down with that ball for a TD.

new power rankings
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Ok, for fun, I will play devils advocate here...
How do you have the Saints at #8 and only 2 spots higher than the 49ers? I mean the 49ers would lose by 40 agianst them...The 49ers are the 2009 version of the 2008 Bills...quick start against bad opposition.
1. Saints
2. Giants
3. Ravens
4. Colts
5. Vikes
6. Falcons
7. Steelers
8. Jets
9. Chargers
10. Eagles
Pats are just outside the top 10 in my book but I expect a big rebound game from them week 3 and I am sure they will make a case to be top 10...just too much offensive talent and Brady is still getting his timing back.