Alphadawg7
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It's not the qb. It's the organization. Players are coachable. But How many qb's have come here with good upside potential yet never bloom. It all points to one thing.
My plight is with this horrible showing by our team, people immediately start calling out Edwards when they need to start at the top, especially at this point.
So, yes, people immediately bickering about Edwards after this COMPLETE sh*tty play of a team, need to delete their account until they get the bigger picture.
Hope this helps!
More like how many QB's come into the NFL and never develop? Try almost ALL of them...Trent does not have the tools to be a succesful NFL QB. Look at that INT downfiled trying to throw to TO...he didnt have the arm strength to get that ball to TO who beat his man by 3 yards for an easy TD...instead its 5 yards underthrown and its an INT.
He cant read defenses well, throws terrible on the run, has no pocket presence, and has very poor timing on his throws...factor in his lack of confidence, poor protection of the ball, and lack of balls to throw downfield and you have a guy who will soon be on the bench for the rest of his career.
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or he does not really care.
1. The place was sold out
2. He sold lots of beer and popcorn
3. He sold lots of merchandise
4. And he will next home game too
Do you think a man as rich as him really cares at this point about money when he is nearing the end of his life? Anyone who thinks its about money is just crazy. He wants to win, keeps spending money to do so, unfortunately this team hasnt had a QB in over a decade and you wont win in the NFL without a QB or good coaching staff...its time to fire DJ and move on from the Trent Edwards failed experiment...until BOTH of those things happen this team will be in the garbage.
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For the Trent Defenders, go back and watch the Chargers game from last week. Rivers got blasted aall game and still made the throws. RBuger got destroyed last year and still performed. Warner has Gandy as his LT and he still gets it done. Even when Trent has time, he is still bad.
Or look at the GB v Min game where Rodgers was a tackling dummy to the tune of Allen getting 5 sacks by himself that game and was pressured all night yet still had a productive game...
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I'm neither a supporter nor defender of Edwards but there's not a QB on this planet who could do anything under this staff and behind that OLine. Not one. Maybe he'll be OK and maybe he'll end up sucking, but we'll never find out about him until he's put in a tenable situation.
He played with plenty of time behind the O Line last year and blew just as bad...in fact, he had plenty of time against Cle in last years game and proceeded to QB one of the worst games of QB play I have seen ever in the NFL...
It doesnt matter if he has time or no time, he just doesnt do anything with it. Even with a bad O Line, good QB's will be more productive than he has been...Trent hasnt been good on any level, ever, since High School...
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Trent Edwards is the problem? Are you kidding me? Trent Edwards is the problem? The problem has been around LOOONNNGGGGGGG before Trent Edwards got here. So think of all the cute little nicknames you can instead of spending time learning anything logically. While you're at it, delete your account because stupidity is like a virus and this place needs to be quarantined. Our children are already looking at a future in bad enough shape, no need for more stupidity added to it.
Hope this helps!
Delete your homerism account is more like it...Trent does not have what it takes at this point to be a starting caliber QB in the NFL...
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check this out...
http://losangeles.bizjournals.com/losangel...05/daily22.html
Did anyone even bother to read this article? It was from October 7th and it claims one of these 6 teams will be playing in Los Angeles, and the Bills are one of those 6...so clearly, there has been discussion between Buffalo and them otherwise they wouldnt have them on the list. The news article alone adds some validity to the OP statement. But hardly anyone even replied to the post about the news article...
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I can tell the weather is getting cold in Buffalo; brain cells are frezzing at an unbelievable pace. Why is everything dropped on the QB's back? First, you don't have and O-Line, anD-Line, corners, safties or wide out's that can separate; yet it's the QB's fault. There are a lot of teams in the NFL that would love to have your QB; and, in a year or so will.
Geezus, you need a secret decoder ring to make any sense out of this jumble you just wrote, but you clearly dont watch the games...Trent, with or without time does not produce squat...he continuously doesnt see open players...his downfield vision is amongst the worst (and one could argue the worst) of all starting QB's in the NFL right now...and thats no joke.
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their 4th game was a 30-10 loss against the dolphins on the road in which they had a total of 146 yards.
and THEY WON THE SUPERBOWL.
Ha. Seriously though - can you imagine the concept of this team winning the super bowl? try to wrap your brain around that for a few minutes. In 2001 Patsfans.com probably had the same mood as this place does today, but without the 400,000 bandwagon jumpers that would arrive a few months later.
(and no, i'm not expecting anything).
Ever heard of Drew Bledsoe and Tom Brady...those were their two QB's...Trent and Fitz wouldnt have even made that team...
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I think the team should take a very hard look at Leslie Frazier (D-coordinator) from the Vikings. He brings the same accountability that Singletary brings to the 49ers.
Look at some of the bright new faces leading teams to victory. Spending money on a big time coach doesn't guarantee results.
The moment we do something like this everyone is going to scream it is because Ralph is cheap and totally disregard it as a good move...thats the sad part...
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Thursday October 8th at 9 pm EST on Versus.
http://www.ufl-football.com/schedule
Can't wait to see that fluorescent wearing ballerina chuck long balls again.
I actually think he is going to do well in this new league and play his way back into the NFL to get a shot to make an NFL roster...its about the only reason I might turn one of those games on is to see how he does. I didnt want him here, but I still hope he does well.
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Rodgers is better right now than Edwards. But its mostly confidence, not pure talent. He knows his system and team works and the Bills QB doesn't have that.
Are you high? Rodgers ARM is way better than Trents, he sees the field light years better than Trent, he moves around the pocket and feels the pressure light years better than Trent, and he can make way more throws than Trent. Thats a guy with a lot more talent then Trent...plus he has the confidence because he has the tools to go with it...Not to mention, he has less playing time than Trent.
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2 years ago I don't think anybody would be saying Aaron Rodgers was better than anyone. In fact, prior to 2008 he was looking like an infamous bust of a first round draft pick. He compared more favorably to a David Carr or Rick Mirer than the leader he showed last year and is showing this one. His passes are crisp, on target, and he is decisive!
Maybe thats because he had yet to play at all...I mean who was calling a QB a bust that was stuck behind the legend Brett Favre? I dont know anyone who said that...to be a bust, you need to play and fail, not get stuck behind one of the all time greats at the most difficult position to learn and play in the NFL...
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Every team in the NFL can do this in many many drafts...whats the point? Everyone misses and hits...lame
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We could have had him but took Whitner instead. Just throwing the question out there
Nobody knows if Matt is any good, but most importantly he is still the future in AZ with an old Warner there, they are not going to trade him...
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Blah. The Packs are a way more talented team and they lsoe more games than the Bilsl the last 2 seasons. They also got to play the Lions twice. I'll never say that Trent is better than Rodgers but some QBs make plays that help lose games. Rodgers, for all his skill, is in that category until prove otherwise.
Curious...How are they are a way more talented team outside of QB? Lets look...
DL - Bills (its close, although Raji and Maybins development will go a long way on swaying this more one way or the other)
LB's - Packers
DB's - Push
Safeties - Bills
OL - Push (both suck)
RB - Bills
WR's/TE's - Push
ST - Bills
So, where do you get that they are "way more" talented than us? The only area they are "way" more talented is at QB...the LB's are better too, but other than that, we are pretty much on par or better in the other categories.
ANd why are you bringing up the Lions, I mean we played KC, SF, Jax, Oak, St. Louis, Sea, and Cle last year, all amongst the worst in the league last year...thats 44% of our games last year were against teams that were in the bottom 25% of the leage and we still missed the playoffs. I assure you, their schedule was much tougher than ours last year, especially for a first year starting QB under the immense spotlight and pressure Aaron was under. In fact, here is who the other people on their schedule were not named the Lions...
Two solid divisional opponents twice:
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Then some solid to pretty good teams last year in:
Dallas
Atlanta
Saints
Carolina
Houston
Tampa Bay
Then Elite teams last year
Indy
Tenn
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What is the purpose of this? To say ESPN is awesome?
You would be one to ask...
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I agree Rodgers is a better QB, but Edwards has a much better record. Are the Bills that much more talented of a team than the Packers?
Geezus, another QB records comparison to Trent...when does it stop...Trents record stinks, its below .500 and we didnt win because he had good games, in fact, many of those wins he had an average game at best. We also missed the playoffs last year after a 6-2 start because Trent was BEYOND bad in ALL four division games, all of which we still almost won despite his 4 horrible games in them (the other two were equally bad by JP). And almost ALL of our wins with him as our QB came against teams with LOSING records...
GB's record last year was NOT becuase of bad QB play...they suffered from a below average defense and a struggling running game with a much tougher schedule.
Not to mention, Rodgers has only played one season and 4 games...OF COURSE he had a few growing pains, but overall he is lightyears better than Trent.
So please, enough with the "look at his record" statement...
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What happened to all those people crying about the rankings after we beat the hapless Bucs? So much for the conspiracy against the Bills huh? Or was just maybe people outside Buffalo look at our team with a more realistic set of eyes instead of "conspiring" to ignore the Bills and disrespect us like fans with "homer" goggles think they do...
People were pissed we werent ranked higher than the Dolphins who literally just made us look like a High School football team...People were crying about respect...respect we had YET to earn considering we hadnt (and still havent) beaten a team with a winning record since 2007 or won a divisional game since 2007...
This is why meaningless wins against terrible teams dont get you flying up the rankings, especially when you are known as a team to beat bad teams and get prison raped by good ones. Not to mention, all of our typical offensive problems were glaringly present in both of our two games:
An O Line in flux, a QB who cant throw down field or to WR's, a incredibly EASY to predict offense, and a knack for losing close games.
Add in the key injuries too, and we were ranked just right where we should have been and will be even lower now where we once again deserve to be.
The funniest thing I find when I see people crying about the lack of respect is ESPN's alleged hatred of the Bills. When we are winning ESPN and media sources love it and pump us up. When we were 4-0 and even 6-2 we were getting all kinds of love from ESPN and other outlets, including several analysts saying its great for the NFL when we are winning. We get plenty of attention when we deserve it...just like the majority of the NFL franchises...our irrelevance is our OWN creation, not some ESPN conspiracy...
ESPN hates us theory is one of the dumbest theories I have even seen...demanding respect after starting 1-1 with a national spot light loss to NE and an average win against a terrible team accompanied by no victories against oppinents with a winning record or divisional wins since 2007 is probably the second dumbest thing I have seen...
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I love Jaws and think he is great but he also said JP was going to be a super star QB in the NFL.....
Maybe he meant UFL???
Lots of scouts and analysts said this, especially after JP was the 11th rated QB and in top 5 in several categories that last year as a starter.
Jaws is actually one of the most reliable analysts on televised football...he is usually pretty spot on. But, Bills fans hate anyone who doesnt say something nice, or give us the "respect" they delusionally think we should have...
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in 22 years of coaching shottenheimer finished 1 or 2 in his division 17 times, but at 66 he's probably to old to want to get back in to coaching,
Marty said last year he would be interested in a GM position but doesnt want to coach...I will never buy into a coach saying he doesnt want to coach, but Marty at GM here would be pretty sweet and then he could bring in an established winner as a coach like Cowher, Holmgren, Shannahan, etc, etc...
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Rob Johnson was known to do that too. In fact, in one such game in which he put up huge stats while playing through a sprained ankle, he so bewitched a visiting owner who happened to be attending the game as a guest of Wayne Weaver that said owner traded for him the next season: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxs...99708310rav.htm .
He was known to do this in only that one single game never to do it again...Rodgers continuously does this...
This is one of those times you gotta just throw in the towel and realize you stuck your foot in your mouth on this one...
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Well....now we know who told San Francisco to draft Alex Smith....
Nice
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Enh. Rogers may look better than Edwards, but the guy looks like the second coming of Rob Johnson to me. A California with good stats, not that many victories, way too many sacks, and some brittleness.
Really Dave? I am a lil surprised by your post...especially since GB's record last season was not becuase of poor play by Rodgers, but more on the defense and lack of running game. Way too many sacks thing is because they had a 3rd string Tackle going against the best pass rusher in football. How you can compare Rodgers to Rob is shocking, I mean Rob isnt even a quality backup with poor field vision, not QB IQ, and fumbles because the wind blows. Rodgers is one of the brightest young QB's in the game and a class act to boot. I bet if GB traded him they could easily get at min 2 first round picks right now...
Craziest part is he is doing all this behind a terrible O Line
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Honestly, if we had a real QB I think this season would be going much better, so DJ is in a lose lose situation. Trent is killing DJ's career, not the other way around IMO. That being said, I think the start has also caused him to lose his team and a change needs to be made now. A lot of players just seem like they dont care at times. Trent needs to be benched to send a message to this team, but DJ just doesnt seem to have the balls to do it unless he does it today.
So, we definitely need a change, someone willing to come in and rock the ship like pulling Trent from the starting lineup.
Defend Trentative Edwards
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Really? wow...do you just look at the stats in the paper or watch the game? If you look at his completion % he looks accurate becuase he throws so many short dump offs that any 3rd string QB in the NFL can make with the same accuracy. But if you watch his down field throws they are wildly inaccurate, under thrown, over thrown, behind the recievers, defended passes, or INT's.
Trents accuracy has been a myth around here for a long time because it was masked by all his short completions, but he is in the bottom 5 amongst starters (nobody is worse than J. Russell) in the NFL today in downfield accuracy.