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I think he has some potential but he is not penciled in as a starter. The more i see of him I like but I wouldnt call that addressing Ellison.
Granted he is no lock, but thats what he was drafted for, to play LB...so I wasnt saying he will be the guy for sure (although I do think he will at some point), just meant they felt he was the best LB prospect available when they took him, and I agree...
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I gave it an A+ because how often does one team get one of the top 2 prospects in a draft at 5 different positions?
Maybin - top pass rusher
Wood - top 1 or 2 C/G
Levitre - top G
Byrd - one of the top safety prospects
Nelson - graded as maybe the second best TE by many
I also think N. Harris is going to be a nice prospect at LB
Carey has a chance to add good depth to both CB and S
Lankster I think could be a difference maker on ST...and from what I keep reading on him might shock some people...
So, we got 5 top prospects at 5 positions and some very promising guys in 5th, 6th and 7th when most teams draft guys here that never make the squad...
Thats a helluva draft...FO came up big this year...they have actually had a couple of solid drafts, but this to me was a homerun...
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You forgot an RB but said WR twice.
I also thought we REALLY needed a serious OT, DT and LB. But we probably had too many holes to fill in one year.
The new projected starters are Hangartner (upgrade), Owens (upgrade), Nelson (probable upgrade), Wood (upgrade) and Levitre (downgrade, since he is actually replacing Peters). Maybin will be half a starter but that is an upgrade. Byrd could be a new starter, too.
Leodis was already starting for Greer and i think will be better this year on the way to being a star.
Getting back Schobel will likely help, and maybe help a lot. It's almost like getting a new starter.
Also, Reed and Parrish at #2 and #3 are very mediocre at best. But Reed and Parrish at #3 and #4 opposite TO and Evans could be very valuable (especially with Hardy and Johnson in the mix at #3 and #4)
We didn't address the starter needed at DT for Williams or LB for Ellison (or FB but that doesn't count).
We got tougher and nastier, which is good. We also got a little better attitude overall.
A trade for an OT or DT would make this a very good off season. Right now it's pretty damn good overall, especially because of TO. If the new revamped OL meshes earlier than it should, that will be a huge help.
We did address Ellison...thats what we drafted N. Harris for...
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If we took this guy in the 7th, and picked up a CB after the draft, would there be less C- grades and more A- grades?
The collective intelligence of this board is at an all-time low. I can't wait until draft fever is over.
hahaha, no kidding...
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Thank you Beast. It's humbling to be standing here accepting this accolade. Of course none of this would be possible without the help and guidance of my personal savior the Lord Jesus Christ. God is Great! Also of course my parents Bill and Kay...Isaac Newton once said "if I have seen farther it is because I have stood on the shoulders of giants..." Also my sister Peg and my brother Richard who were always good examples of how to comport myself in the eyes of others. I'd also like to thank my peers without whose support and criticisms I would not have been able to reach this apex in my life. I would also be remiss not to mention the Williamsville School System, The State University College at Buffalo, the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, and all the wonderful academic and professional affiliations with which I've had the privilege of enjoying. Of course in accepting this high honor, it would be a great ommision to not mention the wonderful commercial ventures that have been kind enough to employ and train me throughout life's journey...Arthur Treacher's Fish and Chips, Sorrentino's Pizzeria, Mighty Taco, Angelina's Restaurant...
And dont forget how important all my input was into your success...hahaha...
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Its because they did
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Being in critical condition and upgraded, does not bode well for him.
I agree it can help motivate him, but he wasn't that great to begin with and you expect him to recover? I bring it up because of people crying about wasted picks.
They could have had someone else, but they took him instead. Just like we could've had someone else, but we did what we did instead.
We had better than an outstanding draft, people need to suck it up and get excited about the impact players we got, not complain about who they think we should have drafted.
It could have been worse, we could have drafted this guy. The board would have exploded if that happened after our past history with damaged players drafted.
I read he is doing great and the doctors expect a full recovery...he had a big year the year before, and was seen as guy with potential...again, all they risked was a 7th round pick, many of which dont even make rosters
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Thats funny...Please tell that is tongue in cheek.
Thanks for making it clear that none of your posts should be taken serioulsy because you dont have a clue...
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Buffalo was 13th against the pass and 20th against the run last season. Stopping the run has been a huge problem for this team over the last 10 years, and especially a problem due to the light players that Jauron likes to use in his Tampa 2.
The FO has not done a single thing in FA or the draft to address this glaring and fatal flaw with their defense, choosing to draft DB after DB, rather than spending a couple of those picks on a space-eaters in the interior of the line that could occupy blockers.
Negativity is justified when the FO and coaching staff of this team continue to ignore one of the most important fundamental of successful franchise, stopping the run.
You do realize that run stopping is not the primary responsibility of a DE...ok, now I am convinced no one reads post...they just pick our words and make their own story up...
I said for DE's they are not bad against the run...I did not say we were a devastating run D as a unit
although, we were top 3 in run D unitl injuries hit our Defense last year and one of the last teams to allow a 100 yard rusher if memory serves me...
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Considering the Chargers took someone who's in the hospital, I'm not complaining with this draft at all.
The Chargers selected LSU WR Demetrius Byrd in the seventh round (225th overall), one week after he was injured in a car accident. The Shreveport Times reports that Byrd has been upgraded from critical to good condition at a Miami hospital.
Byrd was a star for LSU’s national championship team in 2007, but he struggled last season. Before the accident, he was expected to be drafted between the fifth and seventh rounds.
He is expected to have a full recovery...so if they liked him before the injury, why not take him in the 7th...not to mention, I would imagine a new appreciation for life will come out of this for the kid, could be a big motivational push for him. These things can really push some people to greater things...
Again, it was a 7th round pick...lots of upside considering he is expected to make a full recovery.
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Bill said DBs, not CBs. And the number of top-ten picks used on safeties is minuscule -- I count five in the last 15 years. One (Roy Williams) has been released by the team that drafted him; another (Michael Huff) may join him, and one (Sean Taylor), unfortunately, is no longer with us. That leaves LaRon Landry and Donte Whitner as the last two standing, and the jury's still out on Whitner (pun not intended).
You absoulutely can not lump in a safety with a CB...they are ENTIRELY two different positions and its absurd to count them as one positional draft choice. Thats as silly as lumping in all WE and TE's into the WR category...and he lumped all of them in as one category...
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What did they use the #11 on?
A very good corner...something we needed at the time of that draft...
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No one on the bills is good against the run. I am serious...our D has been like swiss chees for years. And I love watching Ellison getting barreled over!
I mean for a DE, they are not too bad in run defense as DE typically are not all that effective agaisnt the run in todays NFL as many of them are now speed rushers...
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a FS, OLB, CB, and special teamer.
Exactly, why is that so hard for so many numbskulls to understand...we drafted one guy for DB...the other was a S, OLB and the special teamer...
It just shows who actually knows football and who doesnt have a clue...
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Thats actually a great point...however I am not sold on Maybin. When we havent made the playoffs in 9 years our number 11 needs to be an every down impact player. They are talking situational with him. WTF?????
Kelsay and Denney are actually pretty good agains the run for a DE, so I can see them in there on short yardage and running downs...and Maybin in there for the passing downs until Maybin can elevate his play against the run
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OK, then please tell us why we had to use a #8 and a #11 on dbs? Why didn't they use these great skills and take other players at more vital positions with the early picks?
They used a #8 on a SAFETY...anyone who confuses a safety with a corner doesnt know what they are talking about...they are completely different positions and thats as ignorant as saying a TE and WR are the same position or a FB and RB are the same...or a Kicker and Punter are the same...
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Okay, I can't win with you. You're right, he never played in our system. And how many of our late-round CBs have? Look, the picks were unjustifiable, stop trying to defend it.
I just dont understand why you are so sold on our DB's behind McKelvin and McGee? Our DB's have shown to be hurt often for one...
And all you do is discuss one guy, Florence...what about Corner and Youboty? Youboty cant stay healthy...looks promising, but keeps getting hurt and hasnt proven anything...Corner has proven even less.
What happens if McGee or Leodis get hurt? We would get toasted with Florence on the outside...
Again, I will ask you one more time since you yet to answer it...how exactly are we set at CB when 3 of our 5 guys have question marks and the unit as a whole seems to frequently get hurt?
Are you going to be pissed if Casey beats out Corner or Youboty and is a better player just because he was drafted as a DB? I mean, seriously...how do you know he wont make this team better?
Again, it was a SIXTH round pick who may be better than a couple guys ahead of him on our roster...so whats the big deal?
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Becuase the cornerback is a better player and make actually make the roster. Bigger isn't always better and just becuase a DT or LB is available, doesn't mean he has a better chance to be a player on the team.
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What are you talking about? Seriously. What are you talking about. No one knows how the switch to Nickel will be? More like, he played nickel his entire career, was quite good (good enough that the decision came to move him to CB), and no one knew how he'd be at CB.
My profound knowledge of him at nickel:
10 INTs in 4 years.
He has never played in our system in any place he has played...you may be the only one sold on him, and thats fine, but that doesnt change the fact that Corner and Youboty are unproven...or the fact that our DB's have been injury prone...
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lol...
He did get laid, and as long as he isnt on this stupid laptop after dinner is done he will get laid again tonigh and its good!
- signed his girl in a bikini
hahaha, I showed my girl and she took my laptop...hilarious...I guess its safe to say I wont be on here later
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Who cares about the Lakers or your prime rib...the Bills draft still blew sweaty goat balls. If you tell me you got laid then maybe I will give ya a pass.
lol...
He did get laid, and as long as he isnt on this stupid laptop after dinner is done he will get laid again tonigh and its good!
- signed his girl in a bikini
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Actually the same reasons you are saying these guys could be good are the same ones that Florence has already proven to be very good at. Florence stunk last year because he isn't great at man to man coverage, especially on the outside where he often gets burnt. What he is good at, proven so, is playing inside and in zone. The guys we drafted were not known for being good either at the stuff Florence struggles at. But they are projected as possibly being able to play the kind of zone the Bills do. I'm not saying Florence is great. But I think he is going to be our 3rd or 4th CB this year depending on how well Youboty returns from his injury.
The problem people have is not Harris or Lankster, it's two guys at CB when we already have five guys ahead of them, as well as 2-3 other developmental players like Dustin Fox who we have signed at least twice, when the #6 and #7 have little chance of either of them making the team. One may. Both is almost impossible. So we're automatically throwing away a pick.
Lankster is going to ST...not DB, just watch
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Looks to me like you're the one with all the negativity. Why can't people vent on an internet forum?
It seems like the best place for immediate reactions.
I think the Bills clearly addressed this position enough over the last few years, and in an offseason where it was our front seven that needed some assistance, I don't see how you can be all high and dandy with some wasted late-round picks.
Im ecstatic!!!! This was a great draft, Lakers killed the Jazz last night, I spent the whole weekend on my patio on the beach at my new place, the Froch vs. Taylor fight last night was awesome, and I have a prime rib in the oven...couldnt have been a better weekend
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You know whats funny? You just proved right there that you don't have a clue what you're talking about. I called Florence a reliable nickel. He started last year, and got torched yes, but he's not playing the corner position. We'll see him covering that slot reciever, and hell be quite good at playing zone coverage. There is no way he starts for us, but it will be exciting to see him Reggie Corner and Ashton Youboty get some playing time in passing situations. Clearly with all that depth the late roudn picks were useless.
Dude, he is projected as the THIRD DB meaning he would more than likely see some time at corner...
What has Corner proved? Nothing...he is promising, but he hasnt proved anything yet...
What has Youboty proved? That he cant stay healthy...thats it. I actually like him and his potential, but there is nothing certain about him or that he can even stay healthy...
What has Florenced proved? Nothing other than he gets badly torched lined up as a corner...you have no idea how he will be as a nickel, you are assuming he wont get torched...so dont act like you have some profound knowledge of what he will be...no one knows how the switch will be, but we do know he wasnt very good at corner.
So, I ask you again, how is taking a steal in the SIXTH round to compete with 3 guys who cant stay healthy and are MOSTLY unproven?
You are a fool if you think our DB's have no question marks...
Here's my first round draft.
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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We did...so are you going to go root for the Lions now?