Alphadawg7
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While that is way to funny, it is entirely on point. He should be used to it, and even more than that be able to thrive in it!!!
Bad news guys...he didnt thrive in it in college either where he had only ONE 300 yard game in all of college and he did not win a game in his last year there. In fact, Stanford only won ONE game during Trents final year and it was the game Trent didnt play in becuase he was hurt...
In all honesty though, I think our O Line will finish the year better than last years unit. We may have a NEW line, but IMO its a more talented line in whole with way more upside now. It may struggle for a while, but in the long run it will better off.
None of it matters though, even when the line would hold its own and give Trent all the time in the world Trent still couldnt move the ball last year or this preseason. I am more concerned about the quality of our QB who hasnt produced at any level since high school than the quality of our line.
Although all of that is probably mute anyway, because with such a young line someone is bound to give up a sack that knocks fragile Trent out and this quickly becomes Fitz's team or (Tarvaris Jacksons team or maybe D. Andersons team via trade).
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There once was an OC named Garrett.
Whose playcalling once had some merit.
But that trend did stop and job offers did drop
And now Cowboy fans can't even bear it.
hahaha...nice.
The OP obviously has missed the point that this is a make or break year for Garret as he is on the hot seat and if Wade if fired has about a 3% chance of being the next Dallas HC despite being kept for top dollar a couple years ago with the intent on him being their future HC.
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lol, because he wasnt very good in College we got him in the 3rd so he signed cheap...so based on the fact he makes little money, it takes almost no production to be "cost effective"...
I cant wait for the Trent apologists to get a hold of this one...lmao...
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I thought there would be a big cut like this...not really surprised, figured it would be Kelsay, Denney, or Walker. Hell, these guys are even dragging down my Madden squad with their cap figures...lmao...
I just wonder if we are going to bring any other guys besides Chambers in for some more depth...
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We also looked crappy last season, waiting until a week before the new season starts to pull the plug on Shonert is just wrong.
Tearing apart our O-line was wrong
Who the F#@k is running this organization, I'm one of the most optimistic people on the face of the Earth, but F#@k me to tears
How was tearing apart our O Line wrong? Peters did not want to be here and Dockery was so over paid it was rediculous. We then drafted 2 of the best O Line players in the whole draft and have a young Bell emerging as a potential future LT. We even got us an upgrade at Center...
Our O line will be MUCH better for it long term...wasnt like the O line we had was going to be the difference of us winning the SB this year or not...its just going to to take time for them to gel, but I bet by mid season this year they will already be better than last year.
All we really did was cut Dockery...Peters trade happened becuase of Peters...he forced himself out of Buffalo and then signed for less money in Phi than he was demanding here just as I predicted he would because he only wanted to stay here if he got a contract he was not worth...his intention was to get out of Buffalo or be grossly over paid if he had to stay...
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I am puzzled why all the shock over this too...I mean the offense was terrible last year and even worse this preseason, but more importantly, DJ and Turk were not even close to being on the same page apparently. Not a move of desperation in my eyes, but one of necessity. One of them had to go if they cant work together...
Who knows, maybe our O can finally start to find some life...
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What about this Tom Brady look alike, Graham Harrell who goes undrafted and all he did was was throw for the NCAA record for the most touchdown passes (134) in major college annals. He also placed second all-time with 15,793 yards passing. http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/profiles/gra...arrell?id=71321
Of course it didn't hurt that he was playing for this fella Mike Leach( The mad Football scientist)
Talk about tough,
In the final regular season game against Baylor, Harrell shattered two of his fingers (the pinkie and middle finger) of his non-throwing hand during the second quarter. At halftime, Harrell's hand got x-rayed, and medical examiners advised Harrell to discontinue playing in the game. Harrell replied, "Tape my hand up. I'm going out." Harrell played the rest of the game with black tape around his fingers. He finished with 309 total passing yards and two touchdowns. With the victory, Tech clinched a share of the Big 12 South title, though fell short at going to the Big 12 Championship Game. On the day following the Baylor game, Harrell underwent a four-hour surgery, in which 17 pins and two plates were inserted into his injured hand to heal nine different breaks. He was later cleared to play in the postseason bowl game.
hahahahaha you are such a suckup...you had never heard of Leach literally until yesterday, but because you and Senator shared a moment you are now spreading the Leach stuff...I mean it was literally yesterday in the "Jim Kelly" thread and you know nothing about him other than that video Senator puts up...and now you are referring to him as the "mad football scientist" and posting videos of him too...hahaha...you are just too much...
Not knocking Leach, but you just crack me up man...
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Nice to see intelligent posts from intelligent posters
lmao...the only posts you find intelligent are ones that prop your boy crush up as if he has done soemthing in this league...
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I seem to remember that I read somewhere that Bill Walsh reccomended Trent Edwards to Marv Levy before he died. I think the problem with Edwards is NOTHING!! He still needs more time. A young Brett Farve used to throw interceptions all the time...just like an old Brett Farve does. He is still a winner!! Trent will become better as he learns this no huddle system. As will the rest of the offense. Five new o-line skill players trying to mesh as one unit will take time. Unfortunately we as Bills fans are tired of waiting!!
I like Trent! I think he has shown his skills from the day he was drafted! Maybe Dick Jauron knows what he was doing when he fired the OC. Obviously there was a problem somewhere! Better now than later!! If Dick get fired then bring in Mike Shanahan and the West Coast Offense!!
LMAO...
As I stated before, Bill Walsh was very high on Jim Drunkenmiller (a career 3rd string QB) and Rick Mirer (one of the all time biggest QB busts)...
Walsh was great, one of the best, but he was wrong more often than right, just like every great talent evaluator. So get over the "Walsh endorsement" for why Trent SHOULD be good, because he hasnt been good yet.
Trents terrible stats, shaky confidence, poor reading ability, and hesitation in the pocket speak for itself...funniest thing about Trent is he wasnt a winner in college and didnt even put up good stats there with one lousy 300 yard game.
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"Jim Kelly did us all very proud that day and I just wish somehow, someway Jim could sprinkle a little bit of his heart and a little bit of his magic into an organization that really needs some help right now."
This is the greatest post of all time. From Dog 14787
Hahahaha...he has some priceless quotes on here...check out Bizell's signature too for more priceless material from Dog and my sig for some nice nuggests from the rabbit...lmao
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Jim Kelly was mentored by Ted Marchibroda, that makes him an effin wizard in my book, especially compared to whatever it is we are running now.
Eric
I mean wtf do we run now, because it started out as the greatest show on turf once upon a time but after being muzzled by DJ because it was getting our QB sacked constantly it slowly evolved into some slimmy creature you can't even get a handle on anymore.
We may need a F$@KING Wizard to kill this creature or we are all doomed.
geezus, you just get crazier and weirder with every post...
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I gave your post another chance and it gets sillier with each read...so lets go through each statement of contradiction...
I watched a QB struggle through preseason because the whole offense was out of sync, the O-line played poorly, the RB's didn't pick up blitzes and the WR's didn't get open. When everything did go right, the QB didn't hit his mark.So in the above quote, you say the QB struggled ONLY because the offense, the O Line, the RB's and the WR's. Then you go on to say that when all of the above did their job Trent STILL didnt get it done...so if its ALL their fault, how is it Trent still sucked when "everything" did go right...lmao, contradiction at its best...
You guys blame the QB, I blame the HC, the OC, the Oline, the RB's , WR's and the QB with an emphasis on the QB.This is my favorite above...you literally say that you fully blame the HC, OC, O Line, RB's, and WR's (basically the entire Bills team) for the offensive troubles instead of Trent...then, now wait for it and read carefully, you literally throw in Trent and say "emphasis" on him for our offensive suckness...hahahahahaha...you are rediculous
but the bad QB play in my opinion is also a direct result of everything else going wrong around the QB including the wrong play calling, some folks realize as much, others, I suppose simply do not.And just for some genius contradicting closing remark you once again blame everyone but Trent for his struggles, despite saying that even when everyone did their job Trent stunk (which he did) and putting EMPHASIS on Trent for the offense...
hahahahahaha...I mean dude seriously make up your mind...thanks for the enterainment though
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Anyone else find the 8 linemen they kept quite interesting. Assuming the starting five are Walker, Levitre, Hangarter, Wood and Butler that means they have 2 back-up tackles and 1 back-up interior lineman. Which gives me reason to believe you are going to see a different set of starters opening day. I think you are going to see Bell, Levitre, Hang, Wood and Walker as your starting 5. This way Butler is your swing guard and Scott is your swing tackle with McKinney as a utility guy. It doesn't make sense otherwise. Why would you leave only 1 backup to cover 3 positions, as Scott and Bell are pure tackles?
I think your starting lineup is what we will see...I think Walker is going back to right with Bell taking over at LT. Wood and Levitre seem like locks at G and Hang is a lock at Center. Butler may start over Levitre, but I think given the OL is going to need time to gel anyway, they would rather get the rookie in their right now as he has WAY more upside than Butler.
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Some folks realize how important coaching, game planning and play calling is to a QB, others just seem to ignore the facts.
I watched a QB struggle through preseason because the whole offense was out of sync, the O-line played poorly, the RB's didn't pick up blitzes and the WR's didn't get open. When everything did go right, the QB didn't hit his mark.
You guys blame the QB, I blame the HC, the OC, the Oline, the RB's and the WR's and the QB with an emphasis on the QB.
but the bad QB play in my opinion is also a direct result of everything else going wrong around the QB including the wrong play calling, some folks realize as much, others, I suppose simply do not.
Do have some kind of Cracker Jack Decoder ring to decipher this gibberish? In the same post you blame the QB, then contradict it and say its not the QB its literally every position on the offense and every coach on the team that resulted in Trents struggles...I mean you literally say completely different things in your post...
I put in Bold all your points saying its everyone to blame BUT Trent...then I underlined where you say it was Trent...
Your post are so entertaining, and not in a good way...
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Its called playing against second, third and practice squad players.
Exactly...passing catches when he did helps, but doesnt say a whole lot about his all around game. Nelson and Fine were never going anywhere, that was a given. He was only trying to beat out Schouman. They must see more upside in Schouman than Stupar from what they have seen in the film room and off season. Lets be honest here, Stupar played a lot of minutes in the preseason and was up against a lot players no longer in the NFL...
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This could be interesting...if he misses season and still goes pro where would he be drafted? Still first round, or does he fall? Could he be stolen in the draft?
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He is a 2 year vet, you can't put him on the practice squad.
The article says GB may sign him back to the PS...so what exactly is the rule if they can sign him to the PS
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I'll put my faith in Football legends like Marv Levy and the late Bill Walsh if its all the same to you, but we will see what the future holds for Trent Edwards and the Buffalo Bills.
Ever heard of these players:
Jim Drunkemillier
JJ Stokes
Rick Mirer
These were all players Walsh was really high on...he called JJ the next rice and traded up to get him...he was a career journeyman #4 WR...
I bet you never even heard of Drunkenmiller who was a career 3rd string QB...
Rick Mirer was one of the all time busts at QB...
There are many others that could be listed to that Walsh missed on, but its not that Walsh wasnt any good, its that even the best are not always right, in fact even the best often miss more than they hit...so the fact Walsh liked the kid doesnt mean a whole lot...and Levy chose doesnt exactly have a great track record as a GM...
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Last year's draft reaffirms my long standing philosophy that you can tell in year 2 whether a QB is a bust. The Packers are not afraid to put the bust label on 2nd round pick Brohm after 2 camps and a season. The Patriots felt the same way about the weatherman O'Connell. A guy certainly can improve beyond his 2nd year, but you can tell the busts quickly enough. The excuses we've seen that Johnson & Losman just needed more time were proven wrong-the more time just meant a longer than necessary ticket out of the NFL.
Those other QB's never had the potential Brohm had...he was a top 5 pick if he comes out the year before and likely #1 overall...
Again, its not like Hamdan is moving up the depth chart nor likely ever will...at least he has some upside...
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Martz would change the entire offense immediately.
Why would you want to bring someone in to teach an entirely new scheme in 9 days?
Stick it out with AVP and he might actually surprise some folks. The worst misconception in sports is the new guy can't coach at the same level as a guy who's done it before. Youth and new ideas are the lifeblood of the NFL.
I totally get what you are saying, but on the flip side, do you really think this offense is prepared to come in and compete with the Pats as is right now? Changes have to made one way or another and as much as I hate to say it, we likely wont win the NE game no matter who our OC is. The TB game is a toss up and the Saints game looks like a high potential loss too given your lack of offensive production.
So, if you think about it, we are looking at a very real possibility of being 1-2 or 0-3 in the first 3 weeks anyway with AVP. So, if you bring in another guy, installing a new O that will put us in a much better position by week 4 really gives him a full month to get the offense developed. Its not like our opening schedule is a cake walk and we are risking some easy wins, know what I mean...
But who knows, AVP may surprise us, and I hope he does because given our schedule we are going to need a lot more production from Offense than we have had the last 3 years
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Martz is cancer. His offense and our defense wouldn't mesh to well. Personally, I don't like the thought of Trent or Ryan slinging it around every down, especially in Buffalo's wind. While Van Pelt is not a real exciting pick, he seems to be well liked by the players and is familiar with the offense and its personel. Every great coach got a break somewhere, who knows.
Yeah, I am not a big Martz fan either, but the guy does have a knack for developing the passing O, something we have been missing since Bledsoes frist year in Buffalo.
I hope you are right about AVP, just not much to hang your hat on with him. If Trent had been progressing instead of regressing I feel much better about it...
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No way TE's QB problems had anything to do with the OC we just fired right Push.
Yeah, and we just promoted the QB coach in charge of developing Trent to the new OC...I am sure that fixes all of Trents problems...
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I agree on the idea of starting to look at some available young QBs. If Trent continues to decline, we are going to be looking to draft one next year. Why not look at a few now? Chase Daniels supposedly looked good in spots during training camp. I wouldn't mind a look at him either.
Yeah, and Brohm was supposedly looking great in the OTA's too...seems he has too much potential to not take a look, I mean its not like Hamdan really is getting any closer to moving up the depth chart and probably never will. Lets grab a young developmental kid with some real upside...I think Brohm or Daniels could be intriguing...
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The only other realistic choices were Studesville, Tolbert, Coiner, and Kugler. But from what I gather, the QB coach has to know the offense almost as well as the OC. And Van Pelt has stated that he wants to be an OC and someday a HC.
I totally get that, and I understand why he was chosen...but given the high risk gamble of firing a OC at this point why not take a little more risk and grab someone outside the organization who has proven to be able to produce some offense instead of a guy who has overseen our young QB's regression with no OC experience...I mean I hope he does well, just not a lot to hang your hat on here with his hiring other than he is not Turk...
They Blowed It Up
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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First, love your avatar...lmao
Second, one thing not being acknowledged here is that Turk and Walker played their way out. If they wanted to dump them months ago, they would have (see D. Dockery).
They felt Walker would fit in at LT, but really he just sulked and got OUT played by Bell, who is cheaper with WAY more upside than Walker. He became expendable once he was no longer going to start because Bell beat him out.
Turk was given a chance to revive this offense with the addition of T.O. and a more experienced Trent. But instead the starting offense SEVERELY regressed, and the offense blew last year, so if you can take last years terrible passing game and make it worse then you wont have a job very long. Plus, he and DJ were not on the same page this off season on how to fix the offense.
Turk complains DJ wants it too simple, yet fails to realize his QB isnt capable yet of handling anything other than simple. He cant read coverages, doesnt make adjustments, doesnt see the field real well, and holds the ball too long. More importantly though, Trents confidence seems clearly shaken still going all the way to mid season last year. Well guess how you fix a rattled QB with shaky confidence...you SIMPLIFY the offense, get him some success and rebuild that poise.
So, Turk forced his own way out when he wouldnt get on board with the direction of the team...Given how much better the team looked in practice than gameday, its not surprising it didnt happen until he blew all preseason. Walker was going to be kept all along until the young Bell beat him out...so he became expendable.
So we didnt "wait" until just before the season, its just circumstances changed and they took bold moves to make this team better, and honestly, we will be better for it becuase Turk blew and Walker was average at best.