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Then give up already, geesh
I love that the only person Southgeorgia has gotten to support his hilarious and insane claim is Dog14787 who might be the only other poster here as out there and delusional as him. Skooby provides more truth and intelligent conversation than the both of these two combined, and that aint saying much.
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I wouldn't take it as that. I am conceding that my line of reasoning is simply beyond you, because if you think Tom Brady was throwing down field frequently you clearly were not watching the same game that I watched. You can't just make up scenarios to support you position and the expect me to offer a valid rebuttal. Basically, if you offer even a shred of valid logic, even if it is smothered in BS, I will make a rebuttal. But when you try to make a point based on a scenario that never happened, then I don't even bother trying to offer a valid response.
And for the record, my insults to the intelligence of other members of this forum are almost always in response to insults to my own. The exception is Alphadawg, whom I insult at every opportunity just because of the unending litany of BS that spews forth from his keyboard.
WEO and yourself and growing dangerously close to flame-on-sight status.
Hey Einstein, both of Bradys TD's were down field up the seem to Watson...so who gives a flying rats arse how many times, he threw TWO touchdowns throwing DOWN field...He WON the game...He completed 74% of his passes while thorwing 53 freaking times...nuff said...
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You may become the happiest man in Buffalo in the next few weeks.
Look, TO could have said nothing but "we stuck to our gameplan and it worked, but for an unfortunate late turnover."
Why did he have to say said they "missed some opportunities in the game to take some shots down the field and didn't utilize myself and Lee as much as they would have liked..." also said they "will be taking shots down the field and that Trent needs to better assess whats going on out there".
Why, because its the TRUTH!
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I don't see the big deal. Was really calm, didn't seem to say anything inflammatory...
said they "missed some opportunities in the game to take some shots down the field and didn't utilize myself and Lee as much as they would have liked..." also said they "will be taking shots down the field and that Trent needs to better assess whats going on out there"
I guess the last thing could be a little jab at Trent, but hey, if that is what it takes for this guy to just throw the freaking ball down the field, I don't really mind it...I am sure Evans doesn't either...
Why is this a big deal? I mean truer words have never been spoken...
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Lost in the shuffle of this hilarious thread is the fact that Brady completed 74% of his passes while throwing 53 times...thats astonishing.
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There is a misconception amongst some posters here that I have some vendeta or "crusade" against Trent and want him to fail so I can say "I told you so" and I totally understand why and its my fault and I want to apologize to the board for that.
I have unfortunately allowed myself to get caught up too often in threads where people are making outlandish claims of Trents greatness and try and discuss those claims logically when clearly logic has been thrown out the window in many of those claims (for example some comparing him to Manning, Brady, and Montanna...with people even saying he is or will be better than them to boot).
Then when attempting to discuss it logically fails it just turns into a lame argument. What some people dont understand is that being critical of Trents performance and discussing where he needs to improve doesnt mean you dont want him to succeed. But when you are trying to discuss that in a thread where people think Trent walks on water it doesnt go over well and turns into this long drawn out debate over and over again, more or less a "pissing contest".
Then that leads to the belief by some that I am on some crusade or want him to fail, which I certainly do not. Thats my fault for allowing myself to get caught up so much in those threads (especially since there are so many of them) and I get to reign that in. Everyone is entitled to their opinnion, no matter how outlandish it may seem.
So, for clarifying purposes, I want it to be known that I am pulling for Trent, wear his jersey, and want the Bills to win as much as anyone. And just because I am not satisfied with his play last year and I am critical about it, doesn't mean I dont like him or think he has potential.
A post by Heels made me realize that getting into this dribble starts to polute the board and thats not my intent. In full sincerity, I live an amazing life literally my dream life, and the last thing in the world I worry about is hoping Trent fails so I can say "I told you so" on a message board of people I will never meet in my lifetime.
So, that being said, I want to whole heartedly apologize to the members unfortunately subjected to the above mentioned on going debates and for them monopolizing the board at times. There is so much to be discussed now with the season other than just Trent (who had a good outing Monday) and a season to look forward to. I played football from a little kid into my twenties and am very passionate about it, love to watch it, really miss playing it, and very much love to discuss it.
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Does anyone else find it insulting and patronizing that NOBODY on espn is capable of mentioning how awesome Trent was last night? I mean my God they railed on about Brady for 10 minutes on the post game and did not mention Trent once. That is just horse excrement. News flash ESPN: TRENT WAS BETTER. Even in the second half, he was better. Tom Brady wasn't running a no huddle, much less for the first time. Tom Brady has a proven all pro offensive line. Tom Brady has the luxury of an established and successful coaching staff. In every possible way, he SHOULD have out performed Trent, even if he was only a mediocre QB. But he is considered arguably the greatest QB ever to play the game behind a team that is considered so high and mighty that people speculate another undefeated season. And despite all of this, Trent finished with a passer rating almost 20 points higher than Brady's impressive 97.4 (Trent sat on 114 and some change). His performance was beyond spectacular. It was indicative of a team ready to dominate the league. I had my reservations about the O line and assumed if anything could stop the Bills it would be their play up front. But after watching last night, I think teams would be better off trying to stop the Pats. And zomg what is going to happen when our rookies learn the game? SHITE man they dominated Vince Wilfork all night long.
The Bills are 100% for real. This is a team that can win. Please everyone stop with the BS talk about canning coaches and front office personnel. It is QUITE clear they knew what they were doing heading into the off season. I know it is only one game, but against the best team in the league, supposedly, they performed so well (not just beyond expectations, but it even could be called great) that I just can't see how you can call it a fluke.
The most important thing I noticed last night was that the Bills, from the top of their roster down, were better than the Pats in EVERY position, including QB (correction: except Randy Moss, who is just a freak of nature).
We are going to the playoffs. If you can't handle that, spare us your remedial derogatory comments and go right ahead and hop if this bandwagon baby.
Have you watched NFL Live, or any other NFL detailed recap of the game? I have seen lots of people give Trent kudos, in fact, I just watched Trent Dilfer prop him up just now...
If you are going to watch a highlight of the game you wont see much love for Trent as Bradys return was the big story and Brady won. But if you watch NFL live or one of the other shows where they spend time breaking down the game you will see praise for Trent because the broadcasters actually have time to talk about Trent.
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Dog...I like your enthusiasm for our team. It's positive but not over-the-top.
What I'm getting sick of is coming to this board and seeing a internet pissing contest between Alphadawg and SouthGeorgiaBillsFan to see who can pull the most "stats" out of their arse to hammer home whatever agenda/crusade they're on.
With Alphadawg, we all know his schtick. He doesn't like Trent as the QB...he's going to go out of his way to criticize him regardless of how good a performance he has because that's his "cause" I guess...
On the other side is SouthGeorgiaBillsFan, who's demanding they build a bust for Trent in Canton with his fanatacism and when people even slightly disagree with his assessment, he resorts to boasting about his "football knowledge" and hurling childish insults at other posters.
I'm personally getting sick of both of these two monopolizing our boards with their opinions passed as facts. Can't we all just f###ing agree that Trent had a good start to the season from which he and AVP can build on?!? IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK?!?
Heels, I respect your post, but please show me one thread where I said Trent didnt have a good game? Please, just one. I have complimented Trent all day long, in fact, my criticism has been to the lack of adjusting by AVP to get our WR's involved.
I keep my posts to mostly facts, not opinnions, and if you dont belive me go back and really read what I write. For the last time, I dont hate Trent, I dont want to see him fail, and I wear his Jersery and I was encouraged by his play yesterday.
I realize that most posters dont get that because I allow myself to get sucked in by the rediculous claims like this jackass about how Trent was better than Brady and it comes across as I dont like Trent. Thats my fault and I get to reign that in. But if you really read my posts you will see that I discuss Trents game play in those threads and where he needs to improve. But, when you get morons coming back with outlandish statements and claims, making up stats to make a point, manipulating info to make Trents past play better than it was, its hard not to get sucked in.
So to you and anyone else, I apologize for letting myself get sucked in by those foolish posts because then it makes me out to be on a crusade when I am whole heartedly not. More importantly it does take over the board as those threads with those claims are everywhere.
I want this team to win as much as anyone, and I hope Trent can be the guy to lead us there, but please dont say I want him to fail so I can be right on a lousy message board where I will never meet or see any of you. In all seriousness, my life is a dream and spectacular, the last thing I care about in this world would be to see Trent fail so I could say I told you so on this board.
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Trent did out play Brady in my opinion, thanks in part to our defense, and Brady just got lucky. Brady threw a pick, did TE throw one? Who had the highest QB rating?
I know, but Brady won the game...
I am not going to pick on here Dog, but let me show you some stats:
Who do you think has the higher rating with these stat lines?
1. 378 yards, 4 TD's, 1 INT, 74% completion percentage
2. 212 yards, 2 TD's, 0 INT, 60% completion percentage
Give up...here is the answer...
1. Player one has a 110.4 rating
2. Player two has a 114.1 rating
Player 1 is that exact stat line for Brady excpet I added TWO MORE TD's to calculate his rating and its STILL lower than Trents. No one on this earth would take stat line #2 over stat line #1 or dare to say stat line 2 is better than stat line 1, and yet stat line 2 has a better rating.
Stat line 2 has 166 yards LESS passing, 2 TD's LESS, and a 14% LOWER completion percentage...but yet is 4 points higher in the rating system, all because of one lousy INT. It ignores the extra 14 points and plethora of offense generated by QB 1. In fact, if you add one more TD and give Brady FIVE Td's he would only have a rating of 116, just 2 pts higher than Trent despite producing 21 more points and almost double the offense.
This is why professional athletes, coaches, and analysts dont put a lot of stock into QB rating because it has no reliable indication of on field performance. The rating system rewards safe conservative play and does not reflect effectiveness of real live game play.
Brady had a Brady second half and won the game while our offense fizzled. Trent was solid, but Brady was better, I mean he completed SEVENTY FOUR percent of his passes while throwing FIFTY THREE times...do you know how hard that is?
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Very few people are stating that Trent wasn't impressive last night. In fact, most people are commending Trent for playing a solid game and putting the Bills in a position to win. Some of us (with so-called "football knowledge") have come to the agreement that for this offense to be truly successful, Trent has to incorporate the receivers more often, especially when those receivers are pro-bowl caliber.
What most of us are taking umbrage to is your ridiculous extrapolation to your ridiculous statement that Trent outplayed Brady. Anyone with two eyes saw that Brady had the better game. END OF STORY. Stop flexing your e-penis about how much you know when your first post doesn't support the argument at all. We appreciate your enthusiasm for Trent and most of us hope he transitions into the #1 QB we've been waiting on for a decade now, but inane arguments like this do nothing to help the cause.
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fukn eh to dat man! I can't wait.
GO BILLS!
Me too...with the first game jitters gone for our rookies and AVP I expect to see more out of this offense against a suspect D. I cant wait to see the O Line again and I dont think I have ever said that in my life. Even when I played LB in college the O Line was boring to me...lmao...
I really hope to see a bigger dose of Nelson too...he can really help make this unit dynamic
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Alphadawg your philosophy of throwing down the field is fundamentally flawed. The Patriots showed emphatically that they would not allow us to beat them deep under any circumstances. Thus Jackson vs a linebacker was a greater mismatch that Lee or TO in single coverage on a DB. If this was not true, the Pats would have at least dropped into some kind of soft zone defense to attempt to take away some of that underneath game without necessarily putting anyone in single coverage on TO and/or Lee. But they didn't. Therefore you have to realize that Trent was making the right reads and executing the offense with a tremendous degree of efficiency. If not for a fluke fumble at the end of the game this wouldn't even be an argument at all, as Brady would have lost the game and had 1 fewer TDs, thus your argument is baseless, remedial, and invalid.
Dude, seriously, learn to read or stop replying. I said we need to get the ball in the WR's hands, you are the one that keeps bringing up the fact they werent open. Please show me where I said anything about still forcing the ball to them in any thread while not open...I challenge you.
I have repeated ACKNOWLEDGED they were NOT open and double covered. I said where we fell short was not ADJUSTING to that and running quick routes to GET THEM OPEN where Trent can get them the ball. It is EXACTLY what NE did to us...Bottom line, NE adjusted at halftime and we did NOT...that equaled a better offensive second half for NE and ultimately a win.
I said AVP needs to adjust when our WRs havent gotten open at all down field and start bringing them on short quick routes. This is not a confusing concept, its called ADJUSTING to what D is giving you. IF they wont let you beat them deep with your wideouts, you bring them in close and run slants BEFORE (do understand the word "before") the double coverage gets there. You dont rely on a RB for your entire passing game the whole game at this level.
Two, I never said it was Trents fault, I said it was AVP for not making the adjustment. Its the OC responsibility to make the adjustment, especially when Trent audibles to a run on 7 of his 8 audibles.
Dam, whats your deal man? You cant be this dense? I mean you dont even read the posts, you just open your mouth and insert your foot.
While AVP imprint on the offense was positive, he still failed to make the necessary adjustments for our O to be consistent. It was his first game, so I expect he will be better and feel better about him now then before Monday, but seriously his lack of adjusting to the NE scheme was a factor in our loss.
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When was the last time we saw our O-line making significant blocks on the second level let
alone on the third level?
These guys we're making successful blocks down the field...look at Freddy's
TD...Hangartner makes a key block on the outside at the second level and Levitre and Evans
are at the goal line blocking (10 yards from the line of scrimmage) to get Fred in the endzone.
So much for big, slow, soft lineman...bring on the young, smart, athletic guys who can pull and
finish blocks. Things are looking up (despite the heartbreaking loss)...as soon as these guys have
more experience, more knowledge of eachother, and cut down on the rookie mistakes...they could
be scarey good.
And even though we lost, loved watching us kill the Pats early and often with the screen...I've seen way too
many games where it was the reverse.
It was very exciting seeing our athletic gaurds running down the field. I said it months ago, I said it when Walker was cut, and I will say it again...this O Line is the most talented we have had in a while, raw but talented, and by mid season I expect them to be better than last years unit.
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Alphadawg you like to pretend you know so much, but you clearly don't have any idea what a screen is. You preach about people's Madden knowledge and it is more than obvious that you suffer from this because you think that a short dump off to a RB is a screen. Let me explain it for you: a screen is where you *deliberately* do not block certain members of the defensive front, and it is designed to exploit blitzing. WR screens exploit corner blitzes, and RB screens exploit LB blitzes. Teams only Blitz when their defensive line is not producing pressure by itself (this is why blitzing from 3-4 packages is so much more common), thus it requires consistent and productive passing offense to set up a screen effectively. You have no knowledge of the game, and thus you get flamed every time you sit here and post judiciously as if you are some guru. You are an embarrassment to the Bills and this forum. Please stop posting forever.
You are an idiot, seriously I am not even sure you can read at this point. You continue to make an ass of yourself on every thread you are on and havent stopped getting blasted by all kinds of posters since...
I know exactly what a screen is and if you were capable of reading you would see that I what I said a screen was is exactly what you trying to "teach" me.
So since you are about as dumb as my neighbors dog that just came running in from the beach and straight into her glass sliding door, I will attempt to dumb this down and simplify it for you Corky...
The reason they worked this monday was because they were by DESIGN...aka, a REAL screen. Last year we were not running screens a lot of the times when Trent was checking down to the RB, therefore the RB did not have any blockers and therefore they were not nearly as effective last year as they were this past Monday night.
So my original post was that we had success this Monday with them was because for they were by design instead of a late check down to a RB like occured so much LAST season.
Everytime I think you cant get anymore dumber you prove me wrong.
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Is your other login Skooby?
that would make sense...but atleast he got Dog14787 to buy into his mumbo jumbo
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That's exactly what I'm saying. The fact that he had to check the goalline shows he had an option of what to do with the ball. Had he simply been properly instructed to bring it out at 2:06 and prevent a 4th NE timeout, he wouldn't have cared less where the goalline was. He'd have just fielded it and looked for 6 seconds worth of open space.
Ah, gotcha...I see where you were going with that. Makes sense.
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63 for 1017
69 for 1052
In case you were wondering.....those were afformentioned players' stats from last year.
And they weren't wearing full 'fros from what I watched!
And both were said to have had BAD years and DOWN years.
People said TO lost a step, even on ESPN today they talked about how he had a down year and wore down.
Everyone and their mom complained about the lack of Evans sightings last year in most games...
SO once again those numbers are not considered good numbers by #1 wideouts.
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Everything goes in one ear and out the other so I wouldn't bother wasting your effort on someone that's clearly clueless.
Besides, I can't ignore his dumb arss posts if you keep letting him get to you.
hahahaha...as I predicted, you would suck someone in and as I predicted it was Dog...congrats
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WHOA Brian Moorman PWNED Drew Brees last season. To compare apples to apples, i extrapolated Moorman's stats so they are equal to Brees and here's what you get.
2008 Drew Brees:
Brees - 413/635, 5,069 yards, 34 TD, 17 INT
While this may be good, he's nowhere near the QB that moorman is, especailly when you extrapolate the stats.
2008 Brian Moorman:
635/635, 12,065 yards, 635 TDs, 0 INTs
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No I don't, but that game plan, in that game had them in a position to beat the Pats* on the road. Will it work all year? not a chance, but they took what the Pats* were giving them, while helping Edwards gain some much needed confidence.
For the Bills to be successful, we need our best players to be our best players and Lee and TO are our best.
I don't think that was as much of a "dink and dunk" system as last year, i think they finally started using the screen pass to our advantage and it worked, so they went back to it.
I totally agree with you here. The dink and dunk was by design last night which is why it worked better because on those short dumps to the RB he had blockers out in front of him as opposed to the games last year where he dumped off to a RB as a last resort.
My issue from last night was more with AVP not making any adjustments to get our WR's involved. If that continues to happen we are going to have a hard time winning with our schedule.
All in all though, very good game for a team with so much last minute transition and a O line where 60% of the them never played an NFL snap.
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The only one hating here is you when anyone disagrees with your assessment that Trent Edwards is the best quarterback in the NFL.
^^^What he said^^^
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As he continues to check down, teams with better secondaries than New England's -- which gave up the second-most touchdown passes in the league last year, costing all four top CBs their roster spots during the offseason -- will start to play more press coverage on the Bills WRs. Let's hope Evans and Owens can take advantage of that with some double moves; otherwise, this offense will begin to resemble last year's ... and nobody here wants that.
Very true. A;so, If we dont find a way to make our WR's dangerous underneath then they will never find any day light down field. Right now it is WAY too easy to take them out of the game. Part of the reason to me seems Trent still isnt seeing the Defense well enough yet. Let me explain...
Look at Bradys pass to Watson (the first one). Brady literally fires the ball while Watson is blanketed to a spot in the endzone where he anticiaptes Watson will be open. Trent rarely does this because he doesnt see the D well enough yet. In fact, that dropped pass to Evans should have been thrown way sooner as Lee was about to make his break, but instead Trent thows the pass once he has made his break and is open. The result is he is no longer as open and gets lit up as he makes the catch which leads to the ball be jarred lose for a drop.
Thats the difference between the greats and the game managers. Game manages need to make the safe throws because they dont see the field well enough to exploit the holes in the D. I only hope Trent grows here under AVP in this area or he will have a hard time developing to anything more than another Kelly Holcomb.
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However, that fundamentally flawed approach has us up by 11, with 5:33 left in the game against a pretty good football team, on the road.
Serious question Bug...do you actually think that having your RB lead the team in targeted passes (7) and receiving is a sound approach to moving the chains?
You guys act like this was a first time occurence...this is the same thing we did all of last year and how did that work out for us? If this was such a great approach to the offense we wouldnt have gone out and got TO because we mastered the dink and dunk last year.
So, agree or not, using your two most DANGEROUS offensive weapons as deep decoys so you can throw to a RB is not going to win you many games, therefore its fundamentally flawed if that is the game plan. Its one thing to take what the D is giving you, but its another to NOT make any adjustments to get the ball into your two best players hands by running shorter quicker routes and getting the ball to them before the double comes.
I mean thats literally football 101...
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The purpose of extrapolation is to compare two sets of data that are not equal in a meaningful way. This does not suggest that Trent Edwards would actually hit these numbers. It says that when measured across the same number of plays, Trent's numbers were clearly more impressive. I only brought up statistics because that is the only meaningful argument that has been made in Tom Brady's favor, and since you people on this forum are clearly incapable of recognizing the fallacy in that argument for yourselves, I needed to put it in a mathematical format you can understand. This is done all the time in science. I can't help it if the usage of remedial mathematical tools is beyond your comprehension. But you guys are the ones who like to use Brady's stat line as the basis of your argument. I simply took the ball and ran with it.
Alphadawg I am your master. You can bow down and worship any time. I am 27 years old and everyone on this board can see as plain as day that my knowledge and understanding of football and everything else is far deeper than your own.
I see you chose to ignore the fact that Brady and Trent had equal number of chances with ball essentiall and Brady did a LOT more with it than Trent...but keep trying kid, I am sure you will convince at least one person. Funny, on every thread you are being called out by almost every poster responding to your posts...so it seems you are legend in your own mind and highly doubt you are 27.
WHOA Trent PWNED Brady - check it out
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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lol, everyone in america thought the Bills were going to lose big Monday night, they surprised everyone. So are you saying anyone who didnt predict a near Bills win knows nothing about football? Because if so, then that means just about every analyst, scout, odds maker, etc in the world knows nothing about football...geezus, you are priceless