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I would rather see what Brohm can do over Campbell...I have seen him play a lot (one of my friends who I watch the games with every week is a big Skins fan) and I can honestly say I have not seen enough from him to think he can be much better than he has been.
Campbell could be a good stop gap, but by no way do I have any confidence he could develop into a franchise QB...
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Lets say this rumored trade goes through (although I am doubtful it will) and we trade Whitner to Was for Campbell. Obvioiusly we are no longer an option to take a QB first round, so the obvious most likely candidate would be an OT.
That being said, there is a lot of buzz that OT could go on a run in the top 10, and if they do, the OT available to us at #9 may not really be a guy you would grade out to take at #9.
In the event this happens and that causes Eric Berry to fall to us at #9 (I have seen 2 mock drafts now showing him slipping to #11 to Jax) would we take him and should we take him? He is being compared to Ed Reed and is most often projected in the top 5.
Berry isnt the biggest guy, but he can lay some hits (see the highlight of him lighting up Knowshon Moreno).
I still think he doesnt fall and I still think we should go OT, but man, if this guy falls to #9 he will easily be the best player still available by a mile.
Immediate reaction would be: "Geezus, not another DB"...but Berry isnt no ordinary prospect, this kid is an Elite prospect and if we traded Whitner would still have to fill that hole.
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He is listed on the Raiders 2009 & 2010 rosters. http://www.raiders.com/team/roster.html
This is history repeating itself. Daryle Lamonica anyone?
I have always liked JP. I especially liked the way he moved into the city and was front and center. I think he could have made a big stink when he was in Buffalo--but he chose to take the high road. I respect that quite a bit.
TO is listed on our team too...all UFA are listed with their current teams until Free Agency begins...
He is not on the Raiders once FA begins, no ifs and or buts about it...he is a Unrestricted Free Agent and will have to be resigned to play on the Raiders...
Still not convinced...then go google a list of all Free Agent QB's in 2010 and see for yourself...
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You guys do realize that:
1. That JP article is really old...
and more importantly:
2. JP Losman doesnt play for the Raiders. He is a UFA in 2010 as his deal was a one year which was essentially about a 3 week deal.
So, before we start annoiting him the starter in Oakland we should probably wait to see if they even sign him.
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LAKERS!!!
Then Boxing and MMA
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Locker didn't come out this year because he was given a 2nd round grade for this years draft.
Um, just about everyone expected Locker to be the first QB taken in this draft, including Kiper. Make no mistake about it, Locker was going to go top 10 this year and could have easily gone top 3.
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You nailed this!
Every day I inexplicably see fans here willing to give up a second round pick and more for an aging QB who, EVEN WHEN HE WAS IN HIS PRIME, ALWAYS FAILED in the big game. But they're none the less willing to give up prime draft picks for him????
If the Bills front office foolishly did this I would be as mad as when they kept Jauron after the '07 and 08' seasons. McNabb is one of the most over-rated QBs in the history of the NFL. He wouldn't even play in over half the games due to being injured behind our suspect line. Donavan McNabb is fools gold. Please Bills, stay away!
Overrated? That is unbelievably absurd. First off, McNabb didnt lose the NFC championship games for them or the SB, the Eagles lost those games. Secondly, do even understand how little, and I mean little, talent McNabb has had at WR during his career? He made lame players look good who couldnt do squat any where else. He made Donte Stalworth a stud for a season who never did squat in NO and even less the very next year in NE playing with Brady and even less in Cle.
McNabb had one year with TO (they went to the SB), and has had a young speedster in D Jax the last 2 years...THATS IT! No other year in his 11 or so seasons has he had a single WR that deserved to be a starter, not once. He has done more with less talent at WR than dozens and dozens of other QB's with way better talent at WR did in his time in the league. If McNabb would have had at least one #1 WR in his career for more than a year, he would have won more of those 5 NFC championship games and have at least one SB ring, probably more.
Look at these scrubs...James Thrash, Reggie Brown, Kevin Curtis, Donte Stalworth, Todd Pinkston, Greg Lewis, Freddie Mitchell, Torrance Small, Charles Johnson, Jason Avant, etc. These have been his starting WR's for most of his career. The only exception, the short lived TO reign, and D Jax the last 2 years, but even D Jax had just a decent rookie year and was hurt some in his second year.
So in his 11 years as the Eagles QB, he has had total scrubs in 8 of those years not to mention in one of the 3 years he had a WR was the year TO got banned from the team half way through. Add in that in one more of those 3 years D Jax was a rookie and not that big of a factor. So in reality he has spent 9-1/2 years with little to no effective WR's. Plus, even when he had TO and D Jax the rest of the WR corp stunk...
Imagine what this guy would have done with some talent to throw to.
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Trading our future for McNabb would be a mistake. I believe he is a good quarterback and could help us win more games next year, but he is not taking us to the Superbowl. We need a franchise QB, solid 3-4 defense (currently missing 2-4 LB's, NT, DE ) and improved lines on both sides of the ball. Trading for McNabb only sets us back in getting all the players we need to reach the Superbowl. It will cost us at least 2-3 draft picks and maybe a player or two. It is too high a price for a team with so many holes to fill. Do not be short-sighted! We need to have a blue print that will lead to a Superbowl ring in 3-4 years, trading for McNabb will not bring us a Superbowl victory, only set us backwards.
Trading for McNabb in no way equals trading away our futrue. Its not like we would be giving up 2 first rounders, a 2nd and a 3rd to get him. He will most likely be had for a 2nd round pick and some change or maybe a swap of first rounders and our 2nd or 3rd.
Many draft picks dont pan out anyway, so to say we are trading our future is over the top. McNabb has 3 good years left in him, maybe more, and we have a team with lots of young talent at key positions. This team is NOT that far off...add a LT and a QB to this team last year and we were a playoff team easily. So adding McNabb and a top tackle at #9 this year, a few FA's and this team is a strong contender (barring key injuries of course) immediately.
So, how is trading away a 2nd round pick to get McNabb trading away our future? Even two 2nd round picks? Even swapping first round picks and giving them our second or third? Seriously, so many posters put up all these over the top statements.
You want to know what trading away your future is? See the Herschel Walker trade to Minn, or the infamous Ditka trade of his entire draft to get Ricky Williams where both Minn and NO traded an absurd bounty of picks.
McNabb over three years would be more productive than probably 90% of all second round picks in the next 3 drafts...so please, saying it will be trading away our future is just a over dramatized reaction and really not very accurate.
Not to mention, adding McNabb to a young team to CHANGE THE LOSING CULTURE (not yelling, just emphasizing how important that is) and return to a winning franchise would be huge for this team. Plus it would make us a more attractive option to free agents...
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Simply put, Jim Kelly mentioned him (by name) in an article he wrote several months ago. Sorry, no link. We can speculate all we want about new GM and HC's decisions concerning players and the draft, FA trades.. ad nauseum BUT at the end of the day Ralph Wilson makes the decisions based on the advice of people he trusts, PERIOD! Ralph listens to Jim Kelly, Marv Levy, Thurman Thomas et al. because that group brought him success from a business standpoint and as an added bonus, a team that won on Sundays. If Buddy Nix wants Sam Bradford, and Jim Kelly wants Tim Tebow....
Tim Tebow will be the next QB taken by the Bills if he is still available.
You want the reason why Tebow becomes a Bill...becaue he slips to the late rounds...lmao at the Tebow stuff
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I stopped reading your post right when I got to this point "With Brohm in the house and having a lot of potential it takes the pressure off going QB round 1" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA
Then maybe you should finish reading the post Einsteisn
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once again an idiotic post! So your saying if your the lions right now and you had the 2nd pick and suh was sitting there you woudln't take him cause your team ran a 3-4?? Thank god your not buddy nix.
You remind me of Southegeorgiabilsfan who comes on here with a rediculous post and just stomps his feet and puts his fingers in his ears throwing a tantrum when just about everyone on here disagrees. You never provide any actual responses other than tantrums. Odds are that you are no older than 16 judging by your lame posts.
Seriously, DT is no where NEAR our most pressing need. Sure, it would be great to grab a guy like him, but the two biggest holes on this team by a mile are LT and QB. With Brohm in the house and having a lot of potential it takes the pressure off going QB round 1, especially since this years crop all have big question marks to begin with. Not to mention, word out of the FO so far is that they want to bring in a Vet to compete anyway. So, we would be best staying at #9 and grabbing best LT available, or possibly Rolando McClain if there isnt a Tackle there we like. In round 2, if we went LT in RD1 then we address LB or DL and maybe look at a QB in round 3. If one of the big QB prospects slips to round 2, then that might be hard to pass up as well, but thats not likely to happen.
Trading two #1's plus this years #2 or #3 (maybe even both) when this team needs serious help at LT, LB, DE, QB, and lacks depth at just about every position but CB is just about the stupidest thing we could possibly do. Suh will not get us anywhere near the playoffs next year on his own, not to mention he isnt an ideal fit for our new scheme.
Would he be a great addition, sure, but would hit hurt our team more to trade up a bounty to get him, yest.
So a big, vey big, NO THANKS!
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GB drafted Brohm because they thought him the BPA at that point in the draft. Favre was turning 38 in 07 and Rodgers had completed his 2nd NFL season of not playing behind #4.
It just so happens that Rodgers is one of the top QB's in the NFL after being an apprentice for 3 seasons. Still, for GB to miss on Brohm in the 2nd is alarming, especially because an unheralded 7th round pick beat him up. Draft equity being what it is, when a 7th beats a 2nd, that's not good.
And then Mr. Exception chimes in and says it doesn't matter where someone is drafted and cites Brady, Warner, Romo. But check where the majority of the starting QB's were taken. You guessed it, the first round or second rounds.
News flash to this debate...Flynn is not a STARTER...he is a second string QB to Rodgers, so this whole argument going on about draft round status with starters is irrelevant. All this came up because Flynn beat out Brohm for the backup role when they were both rookies. That does not equate to Brohm being a bust, it simply means in their rookie years they had to pick one who they felt was more ready to play IF Rodgers went down as it was 100% clear going into the offseason Rodgers was the starter.
Actually, that argument would favor Brohm as being a hot prospect to be a starter based on what you said about draft rounds since he was taken in the second.
Brohm admitted he didnt adjust that first year to the speed of the game as quickly as he would have liked. But many QB's (which is the single most complicated position in all of sports for rookies) dont have success in their first years (almost always because of the speed of the game) which is why the traditional way to bring a young QB along is to let him sit for a year or two, sometimes 3.
But everyone wants to make a big deal of Flynn adjusting faster and being chosen as the immediate backup to Rodgers when they were both rookies. I can name a list of solid to great QB's (including this years Super Bowl winner) who didnt fare too well in their first couple of seasons.
And people can say what they want about Flynn being a 7th rounder, but that by know means makes him a bumb, especially since GB loves him and thought so highly of him they risked losing their second round QB on the PS in preference of him.
And as far as the "majority" goes in terms of where the starting QB's were taken (again, totally irrelevant to this discussion anyway since Flynn isnt even a starter)...by no means is finding a QB beyond the second round or as an UDFA a "rare" occurence as you try and make it seem with your majority comment. Sure, there may be more starters in the NFL that were drafted in the first 2 rounds, but by no means is it rare to find a good QB beyond round 2 or as UDFA considering they make up about 1/3 of the starters in this league and a lot of backup positions. Not to mention, some of those early round starters playing right now are total bumbs on their way to career backup status like J. Russell, Quinn, etc.
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The guy is a bust because nobody in the league wanted him in September when Green Bay waived him. Sorry, but I have a lot more respect of the opinions of some of the top professional talent evaluators in the business than I do of any amateurs on this board, you and myself included.
If he has such a "big arm" why do scouting report after scouting report, including the one that is the basis of this thread downgrade his arm strength?
The Green Bay wanted him stuff is getting pretty old-they didn't think enough of him to not offer him for free to anyone who wanted him back in September. Just because they offered to match the Bills 2 year deal as an insurance policy late in the season doesn't indicate any real interest in keeping him as anything but a guy who knew their offense. They always had 3 QBs around this year & after the guy who replaced Brohm on the practice squad signed with Stl, they signed another guy to the PS who was later signed to the winter roster. Nobody with your premise has ever been able to answer a question I've posed, please try: If Green Bay was so high on Brohm, why didn't they try & exceed the Bills offer in both years & dollars? The Packers only tried to keep their 2009 insurance policy in place, nothing more as evidenced by their lack of making Brohm an offer that would have kept him away from the Bills.
You're right, we have for pennies, but I would hardly call a guy that the finest football minds in the business all passed on putting a waiver claim on as a guy with great upside.
The worst thing that the Brohm advocates do is settle for mediocrity. Brohm is ok to keep around as a player who you can pencil in as your #3 QB next year, but if we go to camp with him having any shot at the starting job, then team management has failed us, the fans, and Ralph Wilson the owner, by not acquiring a QB who really has an upside, or is a proven veteran. To go into next August with a camp of Fitzpatrick, Brohm, Edwards or a mid-round pick & possibly Hamdan is too sickening to even realistically think about. I trust that Buddy will not do that & will make a bold move to get a QB that is not just someone else's trash.
First of all you clearly have no clue what a bust is if you can label a player who has started one game a bust.
Secondly, nobody in the league wanted Brady either...he fell to the 6th round. Teams passed on him 6 times. Nobody wanted Kurt Warner either...I can go on and on with examples of this...So, whats your point with that? I mean, Bill Walsh also loved Trent Edwards, Jim Drunkenmiller and JJ Stokes...how did they turn out?
So clearly the great football minds dont always get things right. Not to mention when Brohm was put on PS it was right when the season was about to start when teams were already set at QB. Do you even know how difficult it would be for a second year QB to come in at the start of the regular season on a new team and be relevant? Next to impossible...which is exactly why GB waited so long to put him on PS to try and stash him. They had no room on the active roster for 3 QB's and it almost worked. A second year QB with ZERO experience and no offseason on a new team is not going to beat out their current backups. So he would have just been another PS player while he learned the system of a new team anyway.
As far as his arm is concerned, most people spouting off on his arm strength (including lame media types) dont really know much about him. Going into the draft, it was reported (and since has been recapped in articles about Brohm sine he joined Buffalo) that he was second to only Flacco in arm strength at the combine and not by much.
And to address your question about why GB didnt try and exceed Buffalos offer...why on earth would they? They are already set at QB with a young top 5 QB in Rodgers and a young backup they love. So why would they want to pay a 3rd string QB more than their current 2nd string QB? They have way more needs than paying for a player dont need just to keep him from Buffalo. Not to mention, Brohm would have turned it down anyway knowing full well he will never be a starter in GB with Rodgers there who looks to be a dominant QB for years to come.
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What have Bradford or Clausen proven in the NFL? Nothing, and they'd be rookies this year.
As for Brohm, he was drafted by the Packers in 2008, which was the year Rodgers became the starter and had an excellent season. Rodgers had 3 full years in the NFL prior to that season, versus Brohm having the off-season. So Brohm had NO shot at being the starter, in reality. Sure he lost-out on the backup role to Flynn, but when the Bills came calling, the Packers were quick to match the Bills' offer, but Brohm wanted to go where he'd have a chance to start, and that wasn't going to be GB.
FYI Doc, Darth has already admitted in another thread that he knows nothing about Brohm other than we got him off GB's practice squad. So good luck trying to discuss it rationally with him, he is on a Brohm crusade for some reason even though giving him a shot presents this team with no risk as we have hardly nothing invested in him.
I believe as much as anyone this team needs a QB. I whole heartedly know that QB isnt Trent or Fitzy, just not enough talent. However, now that we have Brohm I no longer want to see us go QB in round 1. Whats the piont? We have a first round talent prospect already in Brohm without the first round price tag and 2 years under his belt and a half season with the Bills already.
Its no secret we need a LT, so it makes WAY WAY more sense to address LT or maybe defensive front 7 depending who is available at #9 than to go QB in round 1. Especially since all the QB's in this draft all have major question marks themselves. Let Brohm compete for the job with Fitz or a vet we bring in and see what he can do. Worst case scenario we address QB next year in the high rounds if he doesnt show enough to keep developing him.
Better yet would be if we could bring in someone like McNabb for a few years and let Brohm groom behind him. If he doesnt show enough in the next season or two then we can take a QB in the draft then to be the successor to say McNabb. But, if we dont get McNabb (which we probably wont as I think he stays in Philly) then bring in some Vet to keep the seat warm until Brohm is ready.
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Funny Ryan and Flacco were first round picks and have done good, Brohm can't beat out 7th stringers for a roster spot.
Brohm and that 7th rounder were drafted in the same year, and who cares if he was taken in the 7th, Brady was taken in the 6th. GB loves Flynn and felt he was more ready to play than Brohm was when they were both rookies. You keep making a big deal over which round they were selected in. GB thought enough of Brohm to try and keep him despite already having a top 5 QB in Rodgers and loving Flynn. Brohm has NEVER had a chance yet to show anything. GB was so hurting at other positions that they had to only carry 2 QB's. So, come year 2, Flynn was entrenched as the backup and they had no room for 3 QB's.
News flash...you dont go with a guy because of what round he was taken in, you go with the guy that gives you the best chance to win if called upon. They felt Flynn adjusted faster than Brohm to the speed of the game and would be more ready to step in for Rodgers if needed...its that simple.
Just because Brohm didnt turn into a star as a rookie doesnt mean he is a bust. Its the most complicated position in all of sports and you cant get over the fact that between two ROOKIES they felt one was more ready to play than the other. Doesnt mean they think Flynn will be the better QB overall, just that if Rodgers went down he was more ready to step in.
Brohm has had little to no opportunity to play. so how you can label him a scrub or a bust is beyond me. Let me ask you this, was Rodgers a scrub because he sat 3 years, had 3 years to learn from a HOF QB, was groomed by great coaches yet GB still saw it necessary to use TWO draft picks in the same draft the year Rodgers was to finally take the reigns?
So why dont you let Brohm have a chance to play before you label him a bust. He has a big arm, was highly accurate in college and GB said he picked up the playbook faster than any player they have ever seen. He needed more time to adjust to the speed of the game was his only problem, which he admited, and has since said he feels much more comfortable with it now.
He has great upside at little cost to us...seriously, how is this a bad thing? We have a top prospect for pennies compared to what a QB would cost at #9 who has as much upside as anyone in the drat and 2 years in the NFL already. This is a good problem to have. He may or may not pan out, but as of right now he is a very intriguing prospect that we have at no risk...so relax on your Brohm bashing already, especailly since you already admitted in another thread you dont know anything about him.
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Hopefully, those contractors did a good job on his house or else he'll be looking for you.
That's actually pretty cool. Put in a good word for the Bills and encourage him to join his former teammate Kawika Mitchell, if you cross paths again.
Hahaha, honestly he used one of them to do his custom home theater and sound system for his house then fired them...lol. Well not really fired, just backed out before they got started. I guess they couldnt get him the right component rack or something that his wife liked so they went with someone else.
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There's a reason why he was cut. He has bulging disc issues that made him miss 6 games. The Giants didn't feel he would be able to come back. He probably will have difficulty passing a physical. If he had value they would have traded him.
Nobody is going to believe me on this board, but I know Antonio from College days and he lives not that far from me in Southern California. I referred him to some contractors even to do some custom installations when he bought his house here. We dont keep in constant contact, but we chat once in a while and last time we spoke he seemed pretty confident he wouldnt have any lingering issues. Of course, thats just what he told me, doesnt mean its true.
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LOL, what a stupid poll...you dont even have the guy on our roster with the most upside, Brian Brohm.
Lame
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In 2001, Drew Brees was the "Colt McCoy" or "Tim Tebow" of this years' draft class. Obviously he was the second best QB prospect behind Vick, but unlike either Clausen or Bradford, whichever one you have ranked second this year, he had some limitations. He was only 6'0 tall and was not considered a "true first round"-worthy pick. In fact, when the Chargers took him with the first pick of the second round, I remember reading and hearing some experts accuse them of "reaching" at that early place in the draft, because they needed a QB so badly. Yeah sure, Brees was quite a "reach" wasn't he?
So just like with Joe Montana, Tom Brady, Brett Favre, Kurt Warner and Tony Romo, every team that had a first round pick in 2001 passed on Drew Brees. (Including the Saints!) And that simply amazes me because every year there are always at least 15 - 20 NFL teams that desperately need a true QB of the future. I understand the Ryan Leafs, Akili Smiths, Tim Couches and other classic first round QB busts make every NFL team gun-shy about investing so much money into first round QB's. But how can you not keep trying if you go 26 years between drafting Pro Bowl QB's like the Bills have?? (That is not a misprint - Kelly was drafted in 1983, and this past draft was 2009.) One Pro Bowl season out of Flutie and one Pro Bowl season out of Bledsoe, two QB's already past their prime, is not an "answer!" The Bills could have taken Brees with the number 21 pick of the 2001 draft instead of Nate Clements. What an absolute joke. Donahoe had Rob freakin' Johnson and had just decided to dump Flutie that April. And he passed on Brees. Along with every other team of course.
So now the Bills have another chance to draft Clausen or Bradford, or get even bolder if they are both drafted by their number 9 pick, and take McCoy or even Tebow there. Many experts and fans will mock them and call them idiots for reaching so far for McCoy or Tebow. But I would applaud them for "getting the QB first."
I dont know what draft you watched or what reports you read, but most thought Brees was a steal for SD in the 2nd and thought they made out really well trading the #1 pick (Vick) and instead coming away with LT and Brees...
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Brohm? I am so sick and tired of Bills fans thinking we can rehab other teams scrubs. You do realize that JOHN GUY (you know the assclown we finally got out of here) is the guy that suggested we get brohm right? I mean he was our pro player personnel guy and JAURON agreed to it. That right there is enough to say stay away. The guy couldn't even crack the #2 spot in Green Bay which was wide open. The guy dropped drastically in the draft and sat on the pine in GB for a reason...he isn't a quality NFL QB.
You just continue to show in thread after thread that you actually dont know anything about Brohm. This line right here perfectly illustrates my point. He sat on the pine as a rookie behind what is now a top 5 QB in this league who had been grooming for 3 years...that point alone is beyond stupid. You also realize he was only in the league 2 years now right? Rodgers sat for 3 years, they drafted Brohm and Flynn in the year they expected Rodgers to taket over. Does that make Rodgers a bumb because he sat for 3 years and they were still unsure and wasted 2, not one but 2, draft picks in the same draft including a 2nd rounder on Brohm to get quarterbacks?
Brohm slipped to the second round DESPITE having his best year as a QB his Sr. year because his defense was so bad they only won like 6 games. In that same year Flacco and Ryan shot up the boards too...Not that many teams were looking for a QB. Just like how Rodgers fell all the way down to GB the year he came out despite being a hot choice for the #1 overall pick (Alex Smith was taken instead).
Brohm deserves a shot and has as much if not more upside than any QB in this draft (who all have question marks) except he doesnt come with a huge first round pick price tag.
This broken record you keep spinning here is getting old...you clearly dont have a clue about what you are talking about, just continue to spout off at the hip. The dumbest thing you said is that he is a bumb because Guy brought him in....If we should play or cut players based who suggested them then your azz backwards logic would indicate we should keep Trent since Walsh liked him....thats how stupid your statement was.
PS: What was even dumber is your reference to Jauron signing off on Brohm considering Jauron was fired before we got him Einstein
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Agreed. He's worth as high as a second but if I were the Bills I'd offer our 3rd.
Actually he is worth a first in terms of talent...he is a top 5 WR in this league. They wont get a first, and I dont want to part with our first, but in terms of talent is an Elite player. That being said, I would be ecstatic if we got him for a 3rd and still just as estatic if we got him for a second
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If they bring in Thigpen and let him battle Brohm for the #1 spot I think Brohm will beat him out.
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Unless the Saints cheap shot manning like they did Favre, no way in hell does NO win
I wouldnt say no way in hell. Colts often had to come from behind against good teams, and the Saints are more than a good team. They are also a team you dont want to play catch up with as they are explosive.
I think the Colts should be the favorites, but slight favorites. I just dont see them as a big favorite. I think this game should be a good game and the Saints are plenty good enough to win this game.
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And now we know why you are a madden player fat guy behind a screen.
Good thing the Bills coaches and scouts don't run imaginary numbers through madden.
Trent has been the Qb when his team has won more than either of the other two players. Trents QB rating on the year and career is better. He also had at least one 300 yards game against ASU in college.
So on every single item you would be wrong.
Again, I am glad you do now make decision for our team.
Edit: And GB signed Pizzotti from the Jets PS and kept him active all the way through. If having that extra spot was so needed they would have matched the Bills on the signing of Brohm and kept him. So he was at least their 4th choice.
hahaha...dude you are crazy...I said right in my post he had ONE 300 yard game in college, probably the one you just referenced...you cant even read a post right...best part is that you act like that one 300 yard game makes him good.
Brohm has just one start...so love the "wins" comparison by you to him
....and fitz won more games than Trent did this year in his only year as a bill...So, you have yet to make a single truthful, accurate, or relevant supporting argument. I also love how you ignore all of the flaws that I pointed out...probably because they are indisputable. So until you can provide something of real substance, I see no reason to further discuss this with you.
If we trade Whitner...
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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There isnt 5 OT worthy of the 9 spot for one...and in my example I said if there is a run on OT, meaning the top 3 are gone and maybe even 4...
Top 8 could easily be McCoy, Suh, Bradford, Clausen and 3 or 4 Tackles...