Alphadawg7
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I am high on this kid, but we shouldnt expect much this game. He has had ZERO, literally, ZERO reps with the first unit or even the second unit as he has been running the scout team since he got here while learning the playbook.
Lets look at whats working against him here (in no particular order):
1. 4 weeks on this team to learn a whole new system
2. Terrible offensive scheme here to begin with
3. No reps with even the second unit let alone the first unit up to this week
4. Decimated O Line
5. No prior NFL experience either
6. Second year player who has yet to practive with or play agaisnt a first unit
Those are some very big challenges to have to overcome and have some success. To expect much from him would be grossly unfair at this point. If he goes out and doesnt look good then it really doesnt tell us anything about him, yet fans here I am sure will label him a bust and ignore how accurate he was in college and his big time arm.
If he can amass 200 yards, 1 TD, and 1 INT then I would say that would be a pretty good day given whats working against him at this time. Anything more than that would have to be considered a big success.
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Before you say we can't get them remember that a lot of folks can be persuaded with a long term contract and a lot of Benjamins.
DeMeco Ryans, Houston Texans
Ryans has been a stalwart for the Texans, displaying consistency from game-to-game and year-to-year. With rookie sensation Brian Cushing next to him, the Texans have the beginnings of a good front 7. Ryans would like a long-term contract with the Texans, and Houston will almost definitely re-sign Ryans to keep intact the foundation of Ryans-Cushing-Williams front 7. If the two sides can’t reach a deal, there’s a chance he would be willing to accept a deal elsewhere.
keith Bulluck, Tennessee, a little long in the tooth and coming off an injury but he was playing at the top of his game. Tennessee appears ready to let him go.
http://www.examiner.com/x-17865-Tennessee-...ound-the-corner
No way Houston lets Ryans walk...
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Prepared to be shocked.
Three years ago, Jamarcus Russell WAS the #1 pick. If the Raiders released Russell today and the Bills picked him up, would you expect them to ignore other QBs because we acquired 2007's #1 pick? No you wouldn't because what Russell did in college is irrelevant now that he's a bust in the NFL. At this point Brohm is a guy who wasn't good enough to make a team's roster and we picked him up on a flyer-just like if we picked up Russell, it would be on a flyer.
One other thing you're forgetting-the guys who were responsible for bringing Brohm here won't have anything to do with the on-field Buffalo Bills football operation next season. Brandon is being kicked upstairs to concentrate on what he does best-managing and marketing-not making football personnel decisions. The new guys won't care what the losers they replaced were thinking when they brought in Brohm. As a result, nobody except guys who have already proven they can play will be considered anything other than another body on the roster.
There is a huge difference...Brohm is in his second year and never played a down in the NFL or with a first team offense. Russel has all the first team reps for 3 years and has blwon on just about every snap he has taken. Brohm was stuck behind one of the top 5 qb's in this league and a fellow draftee who the Packers love and felt was more ready to play if Rodgers got hurt.
The comparison isnt even remotely similar.
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If thats true we need Quinn. I dont like Notre Dame and am not some homer. I have watched Quinn in the pros and he has it. If he were on a good team he would be dominant. Quinn ends the search at QB and if we can draft 4-5 OL and have a somewhat competent team next season.
After that I think we have to wait till next draft for a QB. Mallet and Locker may be there and they could be better prospects by that time. Hopefully Andrew Luck declares as well - which would be perfect if my Xmas wish of Jim Harbaugh were to be granted.
Brohm has so much more upside than Quinn...he is more accurate and has a way bigger arm. I guess you and I are watching different versions of Quinn because what I have seen of him reminds me a lot of Trent, and thats not good.
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Unfortunately, with the bunch of morons on this board, this comment will honestly be made by some knuckle dragging idiot next Sunday after Brohm plays one game behind a horrible O-line with and Offense that has been one of the worst in football for a decade. If the kid does not come in and suddenly transfer the offense info a re-incarnation of the K-gon, he will be labelled a bust and people will be calling for his head.
The sad thing is that you are so right...
Brohm is easily the QB with the most upside we have ever had here since Kelly retired...hands down. But if he doesnt show it despite not having a single rep up to today with the offense even in practice, only being here 4 weeks, and playing behind a decimated O Line then this board will label him a failure and want to go QB first round again...
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Did the bills sign Brohm to be the starter next year? Do they start him in either of the two remaining games? I'm teetering on a ledge with both of these questions. I think I'd like to see what he can do, but then again, could doing so have ill effects? Perhaps it would be wise to get the offensive line firmed up before attempting this.
Thoughts?
The fact that Fewell came out and said Brohm wont play this season after joining after mid season shows they expect him to be an option and to compete for the job. They never at any point said squat about Hamdan or addressed whether he would ever see the field despite how bad our QB's have played.
People forget just 3 years ago he was projected to be the #1 pick in the draft but chose to stay in school. His Sr. year he was even better than his Jr. year but slipped behind Flacco and Ryan after his team finsihed 6-6 because the defense at Louisville couldnt stop a high school offense that year.
If Brohm was in the draft this year he would likely be the top QB taken. I would be utterly shocked if we took a QB early in this years draft unless some big name fell to us in the 2nd round or something. I really think Brohm was brought here as a guy with big upside and they will give him every opportunity to win this job. Going with Brohm gives us so MUCH more flexibility in the early parts of the draft where we can address our lines in the first 2 rounds.
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First of all the last thing I am concerned about is my credibility with posters on this board. I don't have any love for Trent Edwards, I believe he is a above average QB in this league that will flourish under better circumstances.
TO has no option but to keep his mouth shut. His production is horrible and he is over the hill. There wasnt a huge market for him last year... if he implodes publicly as a Buffalo Bill it would kill him this spring. He is smart enough to keep waiting until he has the next contract secured and then you will see throw our entire organization and many teamates under the bus.... some deserve it some dont. The problem with TO this year is that his presence limited the development of Hardy and Johnson and he took reps away from our best WR Lee Evans.
LOL...this isnt even close to what you have written about TO...once I asked you to show any evidence at all of TO throwing someone under the bus or being a cancer, you then flip your story to say the issue is his presence keeps our young guys off the field...
You clearly have no clue to waht you are even trying to communicate...
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What he does have is the worst O line in the leaugue, a rookie offenssive coordinator that got the job one week before the opener and an over the hill WR that is just waiting to throw him or anybody else under the bus in order to get some attention or more throws.
It seems to me that Fitz has checked down often, taken a lot of sacks, ran for his life and gotten banged up in the process.. the common demoninator is the team. He probably needs to go because this team needs a fresh start... and he deserves better.
Please oh please show us ANYTHING where TO has thrown anyone under the bus this season to get more reps? You said he is just waiting to do so...well there are only 2 games left this season, so when do you think he is going to throw someone under the bus that will just ruin our season?
You lose all credibility with your rant here, not that you had much to stand on with your Trent love fest, but labeling TO as if he has been some kind of problem is lame.
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1 qb
2 ot
3 dt
4 de
5 ot
I think with Brohm in the stable QB drops down to round 3 at the earliest or even 4 unless someone slips big time to us. Move Maybin to LB, throw in Nic Harris in there and our LB core looks young and promising for next year...if they do that then that shores up another need in the early rounds. So I would go...
1 OT/DE (Best player of the two available)
2 DE/OT (Whatever we dont go in rd one)
3 OL/DL/QB (Only QB if someone promising slips to us)
4 LB/QB
5 Best player available in the D front 7 or OL
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Steve Johnson.
I hope TO plays but if not, I hope Stevie does well!
I dont really care if we win this game to be honest, so I would rather see Stevie out there getting some reps to see what he can do.
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On Mike & Mike they said Russells bonus has already been paid out & he is due $9 Million next year, if he doesn't start he will likely be cut. It looks like JP will get the chance to compete for the starters job in camp next year. I guess we will have to wait & see how it plays out.
JP is only on essentially a 3 week contract...no guarantees he will still be with Raiders next year since he signed just a one year deal that expires at the end of this season...essentially making it a 3 week deal...
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what never ceases to amaze me is that people want a 5th year journeyman who has been absolutely lousy over a 3rd year QB that has shown flashes of talent.
I agree that Flacco> Edwards, but I believe that Flacco >Edwards> Fitz.
I just don't see what you guys are clinging to in Fitz, when the Bills are winning despite him.
What exactly were we doing when would win with Trent? We pretty much won inspite of his consistent ineptness. In all his games, he has about 3 good games, a couple of ok games, and the rest (even in wins) were below average or down right terrible.
Neither QB is any good, but at this point, Trent is gun shy and shot and the team is behind Fitz. You go with who the team is behind...its just that simple.
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Seriously? This thread is still going? And to top it off someone is still trying to argue that Flacco isnt better than Trent? LMAO...this board never ceases to amaze...
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Thats actually about the best place he could have gone. The Raiders have some young up and coming WR's (especially Murphy) and really good TE, and a stable of RB's (Bush should start though). More importanly, the QB's blow on that team and Davis loves big arms, so he has a real shot of becoming the starter again next year. Whether he succeeds there is a totally different story, but given the lack of QB talent on that team that was probably about the best place he could go if he wants a chance to start again in the near future.
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It's very very reasonable that Brohm didn't beat out Rodgers. But for Pete's sake, Matt Flynn??????????
Flynn and Brohm are young...why would it be so hard to understand one guy may have grasped the playbook faster than the other? One of the two would have to start if Rodgers goes down, they deemed Flynn more ready and GB actually loves Flynn...You have to dress the 2 QB's who can step in and play right now...they felt Flynn was ready first, big deal...so a rookie QB didnt get the offense down well enough in his first year...
Besides loving Flynn and of course Rodgers, they still tried to keep him from us...
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Really,ya think so?.Seems like people forgot about those forth quarter comebacks before the Arizona games last season,that showed Trent IS a capable quarterback in the NFL.So will we all be happy when he is cut in the offseason and signed by the Pats and Bill Bellicheat to back up Brady?I think not.
Maybe you shoudl go back and review those games...2 of those wins were because of Mitchell, Lynch and ST, not because of Trent who blew the whole game against 2 of the worst teams in the NFL last year...but go ahead, give Trent the credit for the win and the excuse for when he loses...
This thread is absurd...even people trying to argue that Flacco isnt any better than Trent...give me a break
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Let me proffer another possibility, albeit convoluted and far-fetched...
Maybe, just maybe, it's because he was just signed four weeks ago, on November 19th (2 days after Jauron's firing), and might be trying to learn the names of his new teammates while assimilating the playbook.
I know, I know...that's just too far-fetched - please just forget I suggested it.
hahahhahahahaha...nice post
Its astonishing to me that so many people seem to think that because we are not throwing a QB out there who has never played, is in his second year, and been here 4 weeks that it somehow means its becuase Brohm is not good enough. ESPECIALLY since the new coaching staff said he wont play this year because he wont be ready coming in mid season right when we got him...
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Fair enough, I took your post wrong, my apologies.
I don't think it's that far of a reach to let Brohm start. OC's shorten up playbooks all of the time. I distinctly recall hearing we run a very "vanilla" offense to begin with, so I'm sure it wouldn't take longer than say, 3 weeks, for Brohm to get the gist of things and show what he has.
I'm actually against this, like I already said, and mostly agree with you that it wouldn't put us in the best position to win now, which is what I think we should be doing.
I also agree that this shouldn't show what Brohm's potential is going into next year. I was wrong for saying that.
Its all good...honestly, I would love to see Brohm get some game action, but its probably not going to happen given we are talking about a player who plays the most complicated position in football, is in only his second year, came in here mid season, and has no game experience.
If he is ready to handle a very simple scheme, then hey, I am all for it. I just dont think he will be ready. If he isnt ready, we run the risk of slowing his development or him even getting hurt.
I was all for getting him in there and even hoped so when we first got him. But the more I thought about it the more I realized its probably best we dont unless he is really ready.
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Yet you want to run Edwards out of town because he couldn't automatically walk on the field with less than 1 1/2 years worth of starts and succeed behind a brutally bad OLine and with a brand new, 1 week old O-coordinator?
It is in fact, impossible.
The playbook didnt change, the play calling changed Simon. Love how you keep making excuse after excuse for him, but its not even remotely comparable. Brohm has seen ZERO of our offense up until 3 weeks ago...Trent has seen years in this offense. AVP didnt install a new scheme...he changed the play calling, but they are all plays Trent knows...HUGE difference...but go ahead, keep trying to find some new way to spin things to defend your boy crush...
That was pretty weak attempt, even for you...
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Maybe Brohm is the truth and Green Bay (the franchise willing to force Brett Favre into retirement to make way for another QB...which makes me wonder why you think they wouldn't do the same to Rodgers if Brohm showed potential) is just totally freaking stupid.
What? Rodges is easily a top 10 QB in this league, is young, and arguably top 5 already and only getting better. Yet you think because they forced Brett the flip flop Farve out that they would have forced Rodgers into retirement if Brohm showed "potential"?????? Geezus...the crap flows deep in here...
Only to you would that make sense...So you are saying that becuase GB didnt force Rodgers out after such a great showing in his first year as a starter that Brohm somehow is trash, esecially considering Rodgers is already a top 10 QB and argubaly top 5 in the league.
In fact, only 3 guys certainly ahead of him are Brees, Manning and Brady...outside of that you can argue if he is the 4th best to about the 6th best right now...but by your logic, because GB didnt force him into retirement as you just wrote, that must mean Brohm is a bust...
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Really just want to say that IMO all this talk of Trent vs Fitz is garbage 'cause it's pretty obvious that neither of them can get the job done. Fitz is just about the most inaccurate NFL QB that this observer has ever seen while Trent, well Trent just doesn't seem to have the nerve to get the ball downfield.
We need either Brohm (hello Fewell, at least see what he's got once or twice) of draft one that looks like he might be a good one. AT LEAST TRY!!!!!!
OMG, is the sky falling? We agree on something finally...and more shocking we agree on something that has something to do with Trent...Quick, someone go buy me a lotto ticket...lmao
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people who dont know about football are the ones who think TE should sit behind Fitz. It's a complete joke to think TE is not the best QB we have. I see Trent as a Joe Flacco type with a good team around him. Buffalo has ruined yet another player. JP and Trent are complete opposites. TE has potential. JP was/is a joke
You just call everyone out as not knowing anything about football because they want Trent to sit, then you go and use about the dumbest comparison possible to compare Trent to...and thats Joe Flacco. These two are 100% complete opposites.
First, the physical attributes are night and day. Flacco is a big, durable QB with a HUGE arm. This is the polar opposite of Trent.
Second, Flacco has already proven to be a great leader on that team, something Trent has never ever been able to become.
Third, Flacco plays with a ton of confidence and commands the field...again, something Trent has yet to do.
Fourth, Flacco is younger and less experienced and already significantly better and more accomplished than Trent.
So, if you are going to call people out for not knowing anything about football, then maybe you should try and compare Trent to a QB that might actually resemble him.
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This isnt a terrible move, most agree he could really use the extra year. Personally, I would have come out given he is likely a top 15 pick, most likely top 10 assuming he has a strong combine. Thats a lot to risk on injury...
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This is great news. Please no QB with our first pick.
Yeah, I think you are safe with that one, and I agree.
Now that we have Brohm, I am almost certain we will not go QB in first 2 rounds unless some top QB drops unexpectedly. Brohm is essentially a #1 overall type prospect we got for cheap. If Brohm was in this years draft, most think he would be the top QB taken this year.
We almsot certainly go OL and DL in first 2 rounds...maybe LB somewhere in there too
Brohm or Hamdan??
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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If Brohm sucks its the end of his career? This is hands down the stupidest thing I have seen on here about Brohm yet. So, let me get this straight. A second year player in his first ever NFL action playing in an offense he has been in for about 4 weeks, with a decimated O Line, no reps to date with even the second unit, who was a second round pick playing the toughest position in professional team sports on a team with an already terrible offensive scheme needs to have a good day or his career is over?
LMAO...what a stupid comment.