Alphadawg7
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You made the claim below:
link?
I just posted it...I did the leg work in the offseason when I read a report on how bad he was in the first half.
Again, meant to write amongst the worst, but none the less, it doesnt change anything about the original point when he said Fitz was terrible in the first half as Trent clearly is himself.
Thats 3 TD's in about 26 quarters of play for him last year during the first halves of games...do you really want to dispute if he is amongst the worst first half QB's in the NFL? To go along with 6 INTS (and its double digit turnovers when you add in fumbles)...
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Link to what?
Never mind, I scorlled back...you are asking for a link to the lowest rated first half QB...
One, I mean to write "amongst" the lowest rated, but if you want more info here you go as I have already done the leg work once to this offseason to compare to the others and posted it here.
2008:
In the first half of games:
3 TD's, 6 INTS, 75.3 QB rating
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Still waiting on that link...
Link to what?
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Yo Dog14787, when are you going to change that avatar...You look like a Pedifile who just posted a personal ad on nambla.org
Then when I click your name it gets even creepier as there is your creepy Pedifile pic on one side and a pic of a naked dudes back on the other side...WTF?
So, how long have you been a member of NAMBLA?
LMAO
How about I start pulling up your BS you have been spreading since you started posting here at TSW and harassing folks.
LMAO, Just like I said, I never used the words you accused me of or said it in the way you like to claim I did...so thanks for proving my point from my other thread.
Why is it everytime you are called out for flip flopping BS all you can do is bring up this one post? Seriously? Rather than just address the post, you bring this one up despite I apologized to you three times after you got your vag so hurt.
So, for the record, I officially take back my apology, you clearly just want to milk this to cover your retarted posts you always make, and quite honestly, you earned this post when I wrote it as you did nothing but barrage me with inuslts when I didnt agree with your claims of greatness of your boyfriend Trent. You can dish it but you cant take it...why dont you go grab that stuffed bunny in your avatar now and suck your thumb while you cry in the corner about it...
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It's pretty sad when we have gotten to the point when we are happy that a QB tries to get the ball to out weapons. His passes were off the mark all day and try all you want if it is incomplete, it's the same result as not throwing the pass at all. I will be happy when we get a QB who actually GETS the ball to out weapons.
We definitely need a new QB, but give me the guy who makes the throws over the guy who doesnt all day long because some of them will connect (see both Evans TD's, his deep pass today, the deep one overturned last game) and when they do, we score or get into position to score.
Trent doesnt do that...thats why he is a worse option. You want to know how to fail 100% of time >>> Dont Try
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Yeah, the 167 yards of total offense the Bills put up today really proves your point. Never mind that it was their season low by far.
And forget about the fact that the 119 yards passing per game that Fitzpatrick is putting up is 70 yards a game less than what Edwards was averaging.
The Bills offense is obviously greatly improved!
Proves what point? Who is making a point? I worried about a hypothetical situation, that so far has been 100% right as Fitz has done just enough to win us two games.
Read my post above genius...Under Trent, 1 TD in 14qtrs of play...under Fitz, 3 TD's in under 6 qtrs of play. But you keep going on your stats, I will go with the stats that win games TOUCHDOWNS
And man, what is it with you? Do you just blast people before you read a post? I never said Fitz is going to save the offense but you act like this thread was about how great Fitz would be when it was just a "what if" question if we win some ball games under Fitz becaue he gets a little life in the passing game.
You would have to be blind or clueless to not be able to identify the fact that Fitz is better utilizing our WR's despite very limited work with them.
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I am not defending Trent at all, so what's your point. My point is you sound like the people you bashed for defending Trent. He was 11 for 22 for 123 yards, that's my point.
Hold on, I have not said Fitz to be good, not once. I said he is better than Trent, thats it. Dont lump me into those apologists who propped Trent up to rediculous levels.
I am simply saying he gives our offense more life than Trent and that our #1 off season priority in terms of players needs to be a QB...
Neither are any good, but Fitz at least gives us a chance because he tries to get the ball to our weapons...
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11 for 22 for 123 yards.
Lets not forget TO's contribution to those numbers with his drops...
MORE importantly, those numbers dont win games, TD's do...Fitz 3 TD's in 6 quarters for the offense...Trent 1 offensive TD in 14 qtrs of play...ONE
Oh, and FYI: Trent has games like this all the time, except we lose them because to go along with those numbers he produces ZERO TD's while Fitz found away to get TWO out of our offense today...theres you difference in winning many of these losses we have had the last 2 years...
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I'm pretty sure we had 39 yards of total offense in the first half?
I am pretty sure we play two halves...
Fun note for you too...Trent is the lowest rated QB during the first halves of games in the NFL...so whats your point?
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I've seen enough of Fitz to say I like him as our backup, but between Trent Edwards and Fitzpatrick, Edwards has a bigger upside and a better chance of developing into a quality starter in the NFL.
No way we can face a high powered offense like the Pats or Saints and have any chance without Trent Edwards at the QB position in my opinion and I hope he's back next week because the Texans have an explosive Offense.
You mean the same Saints game we lost because Trent couldnt do squat? LMAO
Dude, two weeks ago you said bench Trent, he is done, bring on Fitz. Since then, all Trent has doen is play one half of football and get hurt. So what are you basing your flip flop on now considering Trent has shown nothing to indicate he would be better than he was when you said bench him he sux?
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Now does everyone see what I was speculating on. Todays game is exactly what I was talking about. What happens if Fitz can do just enough to give our passing game some life and make enough plays to steal a few wins for us? Would that bite us in the azz and give Ralph reason enough to give DJ another chance next year with a new QB?
Fitz isnt very good, but his play clearly highlights what is severly lacking with Trent under center...his inablility to see the field. His complete ineptness to throw downfield is unquestionably a big handicap on this offense. Its only two games now, but if Fitz keeps doing just enough to win us some of these games against weak teams I worry it will lead to Ralph once again keeping DJ and looking for a QB instead...
I hope that doesnt happen as there is so much talent available at HC, but you have to admit, its now a more threatening possibility.
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Fitz is no better.
Our touchdown production clearly says otherwise...
For the record I dont think he is very good...that being said, he is still a better option than Trent, just ask Lee Evans...
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Lee Evans...if he was in Philly right now he would easily be top 10 right now in production...
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we are winning becuase of turnovers and improved ST play. our defense is still giving up a lot of yardage and we are winning IN SPITE of our offense. Fitzpatrick is a step down from TE. Had we played this way on ST and had these turnovers go in our favor we too would have won against cleveland. we have beaten 2 bad teams (the jets are not good), so its typical jauron football.
Man, how stupid can you be with that statement...CLE COMPLETED TWO, JUST TWO PASSES all game...thats the equivalent of turnovers when you force so many 3 and outs...Trent had all kinds of opportunities and couldnt get us in the endzone...
Trent has produced just ONE TD for the entire offense since week 2...ONE...last I checked none of our turnovers have been returned for TD's the last 2 games, they were all earned by the offense.
Fun stat for you...our team has had first and goal ONCE going into todays game on the entire season and that was in week 1...
Trent is done...Fitz isnt much better, but he is still a better choice right now easily
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we must remember he wasn't aided by this many turnovers.
we have put up 20 pts with 4 turnovers and 16 points with 6 turnovers.... our offense has been WORSE under fitzpatrick... ahhh!
LMAO at your claim...
You do realize that two of our measly 8 TD's while Trent was QB were from Moormans fake and Schobels INT return right?
You also realize that under Trent we had one offensive TD since week 2 right and none in our last 12 qtrs of play before Fitz hit Evans in the Jets game...
You also realize we had no offensive TD's in a game where we held the opposing QB to TWO completions right under Trent...and that it was a terrible D to boot...
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Some of my notes on your post...
Fitz made some big throws when he needed to, which is encouraging. But all it does is seal the deal for me that we need t draft a QB or get one via FA this year if we want any chance of winning next year regardless of who our HC is.
Byrd, like I said he was, is a ball hawk. Someone accused me of wanting Trent to fail so I could be right, which couldnt be any more wrong as I want us to win. However, I said Byrd was a great pick and would be in the running for ROY, and on this one I am glad I was right and happy to say to the doubters on draft day I told you so. Many were skeptical when I said he reminded me of what Ed Reed brings to the table in terms of a ball hawk at safety, but the kid is doing me proud.
The only person more frustrating to watch right now than Trent is TO...catch a dam ball already...
I think its too early to evaluate our OT's...still so young and have some promise. I will wait and see once they get a year under their belt and evaluate them at the end of the season. But I still stand by my off season statement that there is more talent on this OL than last year and by seasons end they may be better than last years unit.
Kelsay is underrated by the fans in my opinnion...hes not great, but not as bad as the Monday morning stat checkers like to make him out to be. He is a different player out there when Schobel is on the field.
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Did you watch Peyton beat the Fish? Allot of good running the ball up and down the field and winning the time of possession did in that game. Meanwhile Peyton Manning throws for another victory in one of the most lopsided games as far as time of possession goes in the history of the NFL.
Players like Jairus "the bird man" Byrd grounds high scoring passing attacks and helps win ball games.
lmao...you hated the pick when we got him...
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This was the pick that was trashed mightily on draft day....
Not by me, I loved the pick (of course I was flamed quite a bit for saying so).
SF said they were not going to trade their pick for Car 1st next year if we didnt take Byrd...
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How many SB champions do you think you will find that are not ranked in the top ten on defense over the last decade or two, I haven't looked but I suspect the defenses on most SB Championship teams are ranked high.
In the big dance, defenses still win championships. Ask the G-men
Man, you just cant help yourself but spout gibberish you dont know anything about...trust, me its less than you think...
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People act like TE was some kind of amazing QB prior to the Arizona game...he's the same guy he is today. Absolutely no ability to throw receivers open in anticipation, constant fear of going downfield and 15 checkdown completions a game.....nothings changed. He'll win most of the games in which things go well around him(IE vs bad teams), but will not win any on his own.
Its amazing how many people dont realize this...
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Defense wins championships and Greg Williams is the best DC in the league right now in my opinion so whats your point?
The same Gregg Williams everyone wanted fired? But, I am sure you didnt right...just like you said you predicted Tom Brady would be this great at the draft, the guy with the single worst combine performance in NFL history and was a 7th round pick...
First off, who was going to QB us to this fabled championship under Williams? I mean he is a defensive coach, so what offense could he have put on the field to win us a championship? That anemic offense he had when he was here? LMAO...
And, the defense wins championship is so cliche...Look at the SB winners and you will offense has been the difference in more SB's thant defense. How many times in the last 20 years has a defense carried a team to a SB win? Heck, how many low scoring SB's have we had in the last 20 years?
I am not saying it never happens, but that phrase is outdated...
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awww little baby , I'm sorry, don't cry...
http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/index.php?...p;#entry1540893
LMAO...nothing in that thread helps your argument, especially in one just like it you said firing Turk was the right move and that AVP is going to shock us all...
So let me help you refresh your memory dumbass with some comments of many you made about the actual game played that Monday that you are now trying to take the credit from AVP:
The loss leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth, but AVP is the man!!!
No doubt, going into the Patriots house and almost taking them down was huge for our football team. AVP is going to make a brilliant OC and play caller.Good call DJ
There are countless others, but to save space I wont post them all...but keep trying to act like you werent all over AVP's jock after the game. I mean you literally were all over AVP for that Monday night game and even before the game began. Now, because you want to flip flop you completely take all the credit away from him for that game and said our game plan was good because it was Turks?
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Jumped ship, mailed it in, good grief buddy, do I have to draw you a picture.
Cry, cry cry, all you want to do is cry...
Still doesnt make sense but I will take a stab at it...
Are you saying because TO hasnt jumped ship or mailed it in that its kept our team from "going over the edge" as you put it? How does that even make sense especially since this team never "goes over the edge"...lmao
QB Controversy
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I didnt say this season, I havent done a comparison like I did in 2008...if you want to find out, you literally have to look up each starting QB individually...
Here is some more fun info for you: Fitz in the first halves of games in 2008: QB Rating 98
But guess what, in 2009 his first half QB rating is still just 78 with guess what ONLY TWO TD's in the 12 quarters of play he has had in the first half this year. So, its pretty clear he is one of the worst first half QB's...