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If you expect folks to read that post and come up with the same conclusions as you are telling us now then you are stupider than even I give you credit for, good grief
man, are you still trying to invent a burn with this? you are too much...
this from the man who just said and offensive line doesnt need to be cohesive...
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something I am sure you are very familiar with, lmao
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Actually the Bills have won 2 games, not Fitzpatrick. And in both games he's done less than Trent Edwards has been doing.
And if not for Jairus Byrd, Fitzpatrick would have 1 TD in 8 qrtrs of play.
I've read your posts. You say stuff like "Trent is what is holding this offense back" and then pretend that's not what you meant. And then you spout nonsense about how our "offensive production is clearly" better with Fitzpatrick when clearly it is not. And now your rambling about how today was a perfect example of what you meant, when in reality Fitzpatrick stunk it up worse than Edwards has in any game this year. And of course now you're selling some horseshlt about how you were just being hypothetical.
If you're going to run around this board telling people how you know so much more than them and then proceed to make crap up and pretend you didn't say it, you are going to get called on it. Now come back with some "what are you talking about" mularkey and pretend you're the paragon of innocence. I won't be bothering to read it for the umpteenth time.
EDIT: Just saw yet another example of your continuing garbage. You claimed Trent was the lowest rated 1st half QB in the league and when somebody called you on it, you claimed you meant to say amongst the lowest.
You're completely full of crap on a regular basis and I want everybody here to know it.
LMAO Simon...read my post, its 100% hypothetical scenario of what if we win some games because Fitz does just enough...I am not changing it to be hypothetical now, its been that way the whole thread...so again, read before you blast.
And yes, today is 100% what I was hypothetically suggesting in my original post, Fitz was effective enough to get us some points. And FYI: BYRD DIDNT THROW A TD! So to make a claim that Fitz only leads us to one score in SIX, not eight quarters of play is stupid. You have no idea if thats true and you know it.
What is offensive production...ummm TOUCHDOWNS...how many has Trent led us on in his last 3.5 games? ONE...how many has Fitz led us on in 1.5 games THREE...that alone shows more offensive production becuase guess what, points win games and Fitz's production equaled 2 wins while Trents equaled 1-3 including a loss to a QB who completed TWO passes.
And for the last time genius, this isnt a thread on Fitz being great, it was what happens if we win a few of these games we should have been winning if Fitz does enough for us to win? Will it save DJ's job? And so far, Fitz is 2-0...
Simon, if you are going to accuse someone of being full of it, maybe you should take the time to understand the post first. You read like one line, decide what the whole post says and blast people for it...lmao at you
PS: You and I both know this goes back to a heated debate over Trent...and guess what, on several occassions you blasted me saying you knew more about football from playing football....but dont take it out on me just because it drives you nuts Trent didnt live up to your argument...
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I am not making excuses for Trent, he will make a good back-up, but don't tell me Fitz is a good QB. He had nothing to do with these wins.
Who scored the offensive points? Last I checked Fitz threw a TD, set us up with a bomb to Evans, made some key throws to move us close enough to get Lynch his first rushing TD...
I mean, who was doing that?
No one is saying he is really good...they are saying Trent is just that bad
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a direct point about what in general dumbass, because an O-line is not always a cohesive unit. So don't try to explain your stupidity now with more stupid BS.
Congratulatoins on the funniest and single dumbest post award...
I challenge you to find me a single coach at any level of football that doesnt say that the OL doesnt need to be cohesive
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For those that wish to chase the "solids" in the toilet bowl, please move on. I'm not here to say the Bills are charging inexorably towards the Super Bowl, but I just looked at the schedule, and did a WTF. Here's the Bills' schedule leading up to Christmas:
10/25 @ Carolina Panthers
11/01 HOUSTON TEXANS
11/08 BYE
11/15 @ Tennessee Titans
11/22 @ Jacksonville Jaguars
11/29 MIAMI DOLPHINS
12/03 NEW YORK JETS (Toronto)
12/13 @ Kansas City Chiefs
I know the turd-seekers are going to say the Bills go 0-8 (yes, I'm assuming the turd-seekers are going to expect the Bills lose the bye week), but just take a look at that schedule.
The Bills are 2-4. The Bills could walk out of that mess at 8-5. Seriously.
Watch for it.
thats what I have been saying...our schedule has a lot of winnable games with only 3 really tough games left (Indy doesnt count as they most likely are resting thier starters week 17)
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You're right...Turnovers.
Last I checked, none of those turnovers were returned for scores today...the offense still had to execute to get the points
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Do you actually think Fitz won us the last 2 games? JP could have won those games (but you already new that)
But Trent couldnt...thats the point, as he clearly has established when he couldnt beat a team where a QB threw just two lousy completions the whole freaking game...
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What do 2008 stats have to do with anything? Could it be because Fitz's 2009 QB rating is 8 points lower that Trents?
Dude, a comment was made about Fitz having a bad first half...my point was so what, Trent notoriously has bad first halves, so why does that matter.
You are the one draggin on and on about it...
The only stats that matter are points, aka touchdowns, and Trent is putting those up either.
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and that's stupid, because its not what you posted, folks ragged on you then when you posted it and I'm ragging on you now.
hahahahahahaha...you are so stupid...you just posted my quote for me and thats word for word what I posted. Let me help you since your reading level is like 4th grade...when I said the its a "cohesive unit" it was a direct point about an offensive line in general dumbass...
I mean I just wrote one sentence earlier they have not gelled...and I was making the point that its the problem becuase offensive lines are cohesive units...
LMAO
Nice try...well not really, but at least you made me laugh out loud
Here is a beer to help clear your head Einstein
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Yes, but I was not comparing him to Trent and his total was 123 yards. (2 halves).
I get that, but my point is 3 offensive TD's in 6 quarters is the difference. And lets not forget, it could have easily been 2 more. The Evans reversal would have gave us the ball on the two, and that was a catch. None the less, it wasnt overturned because of the throw. Then they had the ball in scoring position again at the end, but just ran short to kill clock and get a FG. If we needed a TD there that could have easily resulted in another TD.
All the while Trent led us to 1 TD in his last 14 quarters of play.
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Flip flop? how about just plain stupid, do you even know what gel and cohesive means, I mean you couldn't even spell it so probably not and by the way I think SDS can figure out what you were trying to say in your posts don't you.
Whats stupid Dog? You think my statement of our O line having more talent on it than last year with Wood and Levitre here is stupid? You are probably are too dumb to even aknowledge we have been missing Butler and thats hurt us big time.
You think my statement that the O line takes the longer to gel than any other area of football is stupid? You think me saying they are not yet cohesive is stupid?
Seriously, what part of my post was stupid to you? Or is it that you were so stupid that when you read it you misread it for a claim that our O line is better now and tried to burn me before you realized thats not what I said at all? Sounds about right to me...
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Ellison is not cutting it, it's time to put Nic Harris in.
Harris needs to get in there absolutely.
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We need to hook up, but not on MSN...
Did you just make a pass at me freak...man you remind me of that Kathy Bates in Misery...
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QUOTE (Alphadawg7 @ Aug 30 2009, 02:34 AM) *
Absoulutely! Our O Line WILL be better than it was eventually. My guess is that you never played football...The O Line takes the longest to gel, it doesnt happen over night and we have some rookies too...We without a doubt have more talent on our O Line now than we did last year, they just arent together yet. Its a coesive unit.
Another famous quote from Alphadawg, now isn't this fun, and I have more juicy stuff, so how are you liking a taste of your own medicine.
Whats wrong with this post? I didnt say they were great, or were going to be great out the gate. I specifially said, and you highlighted it, the O line takes the LONGEST to gel and they arent together yet? What is confusing about that for you? Man, did you take the short bus to school?
I sill stand 100% behind this statement that I trully believe we have more talent on this O line than last year. They have only played SEVEN games and Butler has been hurt...
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1. It is 2009
2. Where is the link which shows a comparison of QBs first halfs for 2009?
3. Hard to believe you fabricate the claim that TRENT IS THE LOWEST RATED passer in first halfs this season.
I didnt say this season, I havent done a comparison like I did in 2008...if you want to find out, you literally have to look up each starting QB individually...
Here is some more fun info for you: Fitz in the first halves of games in 2008: QB Rating 98
But guess what, in 2009 his first half QB rating is still just 78 with guess what ONLY TWO TD's in the 12 quarters of play he has had in the first half this year. So, its pretty clear he is one of the worst first half QB's...
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You made the claim below:
link?
I just posted it...I did the leg work in the offseason when I read a report on how bad he was in the first half.
Again, meant to write amongst the worst, but none the less, it doesnt change anything about the original point when he said Fitz was terrible in the first half as Trent clearly is himself.
Thats 3 TD's in about 26 quarters of play for him last year during the first halves of games...do you really want to dispute if he is amongst the worst first half QB's in the NFL? To go along with 6 INTS (and its double digit turnovers when you add in fumbles)...
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Link to what?
Never mind, I scorlled back...you are asking for a link to the lowest rated first half QB...
One, I mean to write "amongst" the lowest rated, but if you want more info here you go as I have already done the leg work once to this offseason to compare to the others and posted it here.
2008:
In the first half of games:
3 TD's, 6 INTS, 75.3 QB rating
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Still waiting on that link...
Link to what?
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Yo Dog14787, when are you going to change that avatar...You look like a Pedifile who just posted a personal ad on nambla.org
Then when I click your name it gets even creepier as there is your creepy Pedifile pic on one side and a pic of a naked dudes back on the other side...WTF?
So, how long have you been a member of NAMBLA?
LMAO
How about I start pulling up your BS you have been spreading since you started posting here at TSW and harassing folks.
LMAO, Just like I said, I never used the words you accused me of or said it in the way you like to claim I did...so thanks for proving my point from my other thread.
Why is it everytime you are called out for flip flopping BS all you can do is bring up this one post? Seriously? Rather than just address the post, you bring this one up despite I apologized to you three times after you got your vag so hurt.
So, for the record, I officially take back my apology, you clearly just want to milk this to cover your retarted posts you always make, and quite honestly, you earned this post when I wrote it as you did nothing but barrage me with inuslts when I didnt agree with your claims of greatness of your boyfriend Trent. You can dish it but you cant take it...why dont you go grab that stuffed bunny in your avatar now and suck your thumb while you cry in the corner about it...
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It's pretty sad when we have gotten to the point when we are happy that a QB tries to get the ball to out weapons. His passes were off the mark all day and try all you want if it is incomplete, it's the same result as not throwing the pass at all. I will be happy when we get a QB who actually GETS the ball to out weapons.
We definitely need a new QB, but give me the guy who makes the throws over the guy who doesnt all day long because some of them will connect (see both Evans TD's, his deep pass today, the deep one overturned last game) and when they do, we score or get into position to score.
Trent doesnt do that...thats why he is a worse option. You want to know how to fail 100% of time >>> Dont Try
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Yeah, the 167 yards of total offense the Bills put up today really proves your point. Never mind that it was their season low by far.
And forget about the fact that the 119 yards passing per game that Fitzpatrick is putting up is 70 yards a game less than what Edwards was averaging.
The Bills offense is obviously greatly improved!
Proves what point? Who is making a point? I worried about a hypothetical situation, that so far has been 100% right as Fitz has done just enough to win us two games.
Read my post above genius...Under Trent, 1 TD in 14qtrs of play...under Fitz, 3 TD's in under 6 qtrs of play. But you keep going on your stats, I will go with the stats that win games TOUCHDOWNS
And man, what is it with you? Do you just blast people before you read a post? I never said Fitz is going to save the offense but you act like this thread was about how great Fitz would be when it was just a "what if" question if we win some ball games under Fitz becaue he gets a little life in the passing game.
You would have to be blind or clueless to not be able to identify the fact that Fitz is better utilizing our WR's despite very limited work with them.
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I am not defending Trent at all, so what's your point. My point is you sound like the people you bashed for defending Trent. He was 11 for 22 for 123 yards, that's my point.
Hold on, I have not said Fitz to be good, not once. I said he is better than Trent, thats it. Dont lump me into those apologists who propped Trent up to rediculous levels.
I am simply saying he gives our offense more life than Trent and that our #1 off season priority in terms of players needs to be a QB...
Neither are any good, but Fitz at least gives us a chance because he tries to get the ball to our weapons...
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11 for 22 for 123 yards.
Lets not forget TO's contribution to those numbers with his drops...
MORE importantly, those numbers dont win games, TD's do...Fitz 3 TD's in 6 quarters for the offense...Trent 1 offensive TD in 14 qtrs of play...ONE
Oh, and FYI: Trent has games like this all the time, except we lose them because to go along with those numbers he produces ZERO TD's while Fitz found away to get TWO out of our offense today...theres you difference in winning many of these losses we have had the last 2 years...
QB Controversy
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Fitz nailed Evans on a long strike in both games....one was overturned but not because of the throw because of what Lee did with hands after he made the catch (and that was a bad call).
So in 1.5 games Fitz has made just as many long strikes as Trent did 5.5 games.
Oh, and Trent was off on just about every long pass he has thrown excpet in that game against TB where he should have had 3 as TO dropped a big one. So how is Trent better?
So, like you said Fitz is not the answer, but I just dont see how putting Trent in is better when he wont even throw the ball. You fail 100% of the time when you dont try and Trent is the poster child for not trying to throw to our open WR's