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Sea: takes Claussen not Davis and Oak takes Campbell not Williams leaves Bills with their choice of Davis or Williams
Here is the thing about Sea and Claussen that is just one more reason why I think they pass at #6 and address the line first. Carrol's ego isnt going to want to come back into the NFL and go through a slow start. He isnt going to want to be on the outside looking in come playoff time. Because of this, Hasselbeck will be the starter no matter if they draft Claussen or not...for that reason, taking a top OL prospect will give him the most impact going into next season.
I really think Sea goes OL and then RB at 6 and 14 and tries to revive that offense. If Claussen falls to us, maybe they try and make a move for him for the future. If he falls to them at 14 I think they certainly take him. But I just dont think they will take him at 6 with all his question marks and will go with the more likley impact player on the OL first.
Just my opinnion based on what I have seen from Carrol living in So Cal and watching his SC run.
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Just saw on sportscenter that Chris Samuels is going to be announcing his retirement this week.
Add that to the fact the Skins are looking more and more likely to be keeping Jason Campbell and it becomes highly unlikely they take a QB at #4 and more and more likely they go LT.
So, here is how the top 8 before could easily shape out to now:
1. Rams: QB Bradford - From everything I hear, Bradford will be #1 unless his shoulder doesnt check out.
2. Det: DT McCoy or Suh
3. TB: DT McCoy or Sub (whoever doesnt go 2 will go 3)
4. Was: OT Okung - Chris Samuels retiring and Campbell coming back points to an obvious choice of #1 rated LT here.
5. KC: OT Bualaga - 2nd best tackle at a major position of need
6. Sea: OT Davis - They have a 2nd pick at 14 so they go OT here since there wont be one at 14.
7. Cle: Joe Haden - Could be Eric Berry, butI think it will be Haden as their CB's suck. Might also be Juan Pierre-Paul
8. Raiders: OT Williams - they need major O Line help, then again Al Davis is a moron and could take anyone here
9. Bills????
That leaves us at #9 with the top 4 OT gone in this very possible scenario. What now? Couple of ideas (vote above):
1. Take the best player available which is hands down Eric Berry at this point and trade Whitner.
2. Try and trade back to 14 with Sea if they want Claussen who is still on the board...or we might also be able to trade back with Jax at 10 or SF at 13 who both would love to get their hands on Berry potentially. Trading back would get us more picks and we target McClain, Iupati, Dan Williams, etc at a lower pick.
3. Stay put at #9 and take a player of need even if that player is considered a stretch at #9
4. Stay at #9 and take Claussen.
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I'd love to take that bet fatty mcgee, idc if you were the dumbass mofo on the team that lead with his head down on tackles. In fact i'll bet your entire unemployment check on it.
hahahaha...I love it...
Funny thing is though he is probably too young to even get a job let alone be on unemployment. I seriously doubt he is older than 15 given his childish antics and unbelievably dumb posts.
He clearly gets his rocks off by being an azz on message boards
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First time post here. I personnally liked TE as our quarterback. Better then Fitzpatrick. Better then Losman. Better then anyone we can get in a draft this year. Our problem is just keeping him upright to make the throw. His accuracy is good and when he did have time to throw over the middle and down field he wasn't affraid. For instance during the Redskins game two years ago at the end of the game when he needed to make a throw downfield and had time he was money. Another example was the Jacksonville game when he had another fourth quarter game winning drive at the end. He is a good quarter back to me just not coached properly and no line. He was loved in 08 until the Cardnials game where he had his first concussion. That to me is when he got scared. Then he went through the hole training camp last year to have his coordinator dumped right before the season and had a new OC. If he had any consistant coaching he would be a stud now. For that matter I think Losman would have panned out to if it wasn't for sorry coaching. With Loseman they tried to make him a pocket quarterback. To me he should have used his legs more. But I still like Edwards better. We really need to concentrate on our lines Offensive and Defensive this year. Go Bills!!
The only guy on our squad worthy of getting a shot to win the starting job is Brohm. Trent literally has not had a good year of football since his days in High School. His college numbers were modest (if even that) at best and his NFL performance has been dismal given the amount of weapons he has.
Fitz, well he provided a spark, but it wasnt much better, he just seemed to have more confidence to sling the ball downfield. He has the makings of a decent #2, and thats about it from what I have seen of him.
Brohm, has a lot of upside but is still a question mark given how little time he has been here and not yet getting a chance to play in the NFL. We wont get a better idea until we get to camp and he is given a chance to play, but as of today, he has a lot of upside and is a much more intriguing option than another year of Trent or Fitz.
We could draft a guy, I seriously doubt we draft one in the first 2 rounds though, but he wont be ready to take the reigns likely by week 1. So, I think the FO looks to bring in a Vet to challenge for the job, or even steer the ship for a season while they try and develop Brohm (assuming he shows them enough) or some other young mid round draft pick this year.
Trents biggest problem too is that he seems to do more in practice than in games...thats a bad sign
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Holy **** you are a moron.. Excuses for him? He doesn't call the freaking plays. How many receivers do you know that run where ever the hell they want to on the field? Um.. yeah none or they would be looking for a new career. You run the pattern you are told period. It's obviously a waste of time replying to a complete idiot.
You are wasting your time with billsfan=pain...he likes to talk about football as if he played, yet its clear he never has, not at any competitive level. WR run the routes that are called and have no input on that, but he acts like Lee should just run where he wants...
Seriously, he shot all credibility earlier in thie thread when he said he would rather have Mike Furrey than Lee Evans. He used the year where Furrey had 98 catches as proof compared to Lee's 82 ignoring the fact that Lee was better in just about every other recieving category that year than Furrey even though our QB through about 120 less passes in a much more conservative offense and was a worse QB than Kitna was.
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Keep making exuses for him!
Your right Lee Evans has Jerry Rice's hands, with Randy Moss's Speed, Andre Reed's toughness, an oh I forgot he works for the CIA in the offseason as an under cover anti-terrorism super spy! I heard last week he stopped a Bin Laden from buying a nuclear weapon!
I also heard that he invented the I-formation!
Um, Lee has exceptional hands and is as fast as Randy Moss...so what is your point here?
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I would rather have Mike Furrey!
Thanks for letting us know how little you know about football with this post and how stupid some of your posts are so we dont have to take them seriously anymore.
Not a personnel guy in the history of the NFL would take Furrey over Lee Evans and thats a 100% fact...
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C'mon, you know these are unfair, b.s. stats. You are counting the years when Moulds was old and washed up. The fact is that the only area of being a wideout in which Evans is better than Moulds is straight line speed. Moulds was bigger, stronger, had better hands, and was WAY tougher to bring down.
Evans is a good player. I am glad we have him and unlike others, I don't care how much he makes because it isn't coming out of my pocket. That said, Moulds was clearly superior imo.
If every thread is only going to be about skewed stats, we can just post over and over that Losman doesn't in fact suck because he had decent numbers in 2006.
I didnt say Moulds or Lee was better than the other, I responded directly to the posters claim that Moulds put up "pro bowl" numbers every year. The fact is, Moulds barely had pro bowl numbers in about 3 of his years, only broke 1000 yards 4 times (and barely broke 1000 yards in two of those 4 times), and basically would have a good year, then an off year. So unless you think those 3 or 4 years were the only years of his prime during a 12 year career, then I dont know what to tell you.
And there have been PLENTY of WR's of the same age he was in his last few years that had VASTLY superior stats than he had his last few seasons.
Look, I loved Moulds, I thought he was a great WR on a bad team and would have done much better elsewhere, so I am not knocking him. I am just saying to the poster living in fantasy world that Moulds did NOT come close to putting up "pro bowl" numbers every year.
That being said, Evans is in MUCH the same situation Moulds was in, if not worse. Yet, these foolish claims about Evans being overrated keep coming as if its his fault. Truthfully, to comapre Moulds in Evans is foolish in itself as they are compeltey two different type of recievers.
So, dont take my post about his stats as some way to bash Moulds, it was simply a reality check to the poster who constantly spouts off out of his back side and did it again with his claim that Moulds puts up pro bowl numbers every year as a way to bash Lee who is actually out producing him in TD's, YPC, etc. on a terrible offense.
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So he wasn't the 'answer' but you still wanted to trade players and/or high picks for him and his huge contract. Typical brilliance.
Go stick some pins in your Trent Edwards voodoo doll and you'll feel better.
High Picks? Um no, it wouldnt have taken a high pick to get him. I like Derek when he was playing for Oregon, he showed some promise in Cle when he had a few weapons and put up a pro bowl year, and thought he could push Trent for the job. I wasnt ready to trade first round picks to get him though, lets not exaggerate.
I did say we could explore resigning Greer and trading McGee for him only because we were deep at CB and I didnt have confidence in the FO resigning McGee so didnt want to risk losing him for nothing. It had everything to do with us potentially losing both McGee and Greer and not so much on the acquisition of Derek.
Again, I still think Derek Anderson is a better prospect than Trent Edwards, but thats not because I think Derek is the next great thing, its because he has shown to be capable of putting up some numbers with weapons while Trent Edwards literally has not had a good season since he was actually in High School. It has more to do with how little faith I have in Edwards to turn it around.
If Edwards does turn it around under Gailey, then fantastic. I dont personally have anything against Trent, just that he sucks as a QB. If he fixes the sucking part when he plays QB then I will have no problem with him, thats just not likely to happen.
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Bryan Bulaga OT Iowa
Brandon Spikes ILB Florida
Cam Thomas DT34 North Carolina
Jarrett Brown QB West Virginia
Arthur Jones DE34 Syracuse
O'Brien Schofield OLB34 Wisconsin
Chris Scott OT Tennessee
Naaman Roosevelt WRF Buffalo
Jeron Mastrud TE Kansas State
This was off our simulator this morning. Love the local connections, although with the loss of Owens and Reed, I'll now be increasing our Priority Need for WRF (featured receiver) and WRP (possession receiver), which hopefully will show up on Monday's Mock here.
I dont think we need to focus on WR in the draft unless some top prospects falls to us somewhere. Johnson and Hardy are already on this team and we have yet to really see what they can do on a regular basis. With all the holes on this team, seems like it makes more sense to give them a chance before using more draft picks on a WR. Fill the other needs first, then next year if neither does much this year we go after a WR.
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Wait, I thought it was all Trent Edwards' fault!
LOL...Trent couldnt even throw him the ball...his targets with Trent were on par with what you would expect for your 4th WR at best...
Trent was a joke this year, and every year he has been here. If Chan can turn his career around, fantastic and I will be proud (for the first time) to wear my Edwards jersey again...but lets be honest, the likely hood of that happening at this point is slim to none.
Trent has not had a good year, NOT ONE, since HIGH SCHOOL...yet you want to make excuses for him and bash Lee Evans...Brilliant
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Please stop with the man crush. He is an average reciever. Good recievers score TD's no matter who the QB might be! Why do you continue to make excuses for him? He wasn't even covered by the opponents number 1 corner this past yyear and he still coudn't get open!
LMAO at you bro...you just keep talking out your backside...
You do realize that Lee, despite playing with some of the most inept QB's in football, has still managed to score at least 7 TD's in 4 of his 6 years right? My guess is that you dont or you wouldnt have just said that.
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1500 yards in a season has been accomplished only 26 times EVER. Generally by guys named Rice, Harrison, Irvin, etc. (but never by Owens). If you think Evans is anywhere near the level of those guys, you are delusional.
Now you are pulling at strings...geezus, you guys will do anything to bash him.
So let me ask you this...do you think McNabb throwing to him in a pass happy explosive offense with the support of a good team and coaching staff would equate to 200 yards in more production than JP Losman throwing to him on a bad team with a bad coaching staff?
If you say no, then there is no reason to talk to you because you will just say anything no matter how stupid to be right. No person on earth would think it would unreasonable to add another 200 yards of production by upgrading to playing with McNabb and the Eables over playing with JP Loserman and the lame bills of 2006. And guess what, thats all he would have to do to improve his stats to 1500 yards...
And who cares about 1500 yards...he at least puts up over 80 catches a year, 1300+ yards, and double digit TD's every season he is healthy in Philly, or AZ, INDY, NE, Dal, SD, NO, etc. etc. and you know it.
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I knew the Lee Evans fanatics would show up eventually. But this is to be expected from the guy who insisted that Derek Anderson was the answer at QB.
If everyone else on the offense was an All Pro, he'd be great! It's every else's fault he's had less than 65 catches every season of his career except one!!
LOL, never said Derek Anderson was the "answer" at QB, I said he was a better option than Trent Edwards, and guess what, he still is. Thats is because of how bad Trent is...Derek atleast had a good season, something Trent has never had evne though he has had more weapons over the bulk of his career.
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Your right if football was a track meet Lee Evan would be the greatest!
Stats don't lie my friend. Eric moulds had some bad QBs and he still always put up pro bowl numbers. Lee is a sideline reciever! End of story!
Hahahahaha, Moulds always put up pro bowl numbers? Look I loved Moulds too, but he was victim to up and down QB play and because of that he would have a good year, then a bad year statistically.
Dude you are insane...
Moulds played 12 seaons, and in 8 of those seasons he put up LESS than 70 catches, including 4 years less than 60 with three of them being less than 40. He only had more than a 1000 yards 4 times his whole career.
In 12 seasons, he really only had about 4 really good years.
Moulds = 49 total TD's in 12 years
Evans = 39 TD's in 6 years
So in half the time, Evans is only 10 behind Moulds
You are priceless my friend
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Your reaching, Lee Evans had one good season and you want to anoint him as the second coming of Jerry Rice.
No one said anything about Jerry Rice for one...I said simply 80+ rec, 12 TD's, and 1500 yds if he was in Philly. You are the one that completely ignores that SIGNIFICANT LACK of talent at QB we have had, terrible coaching, and terrible play calling over his career, yet he has remained somewhat productive even in those years.
He has atleast 7 TD's in 4 of his 6 years despite playing with terrible QB's on a team that doesnt pass well at all.
His career YPC is an incredible 15.72
His avg rec per year is: 56.7 despite having NO ONE to throw him the ball on a team that doesnt throw much to begin with during that span.
Yet you want to act like those numbers wouldnt significantly improve playing for a good team, with a good QB that likes to pass a lot.
You are delusional
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per vtext. Have been informed they will not be offered contracts for next season.
The Owens ride made the season interesting, but honestly, he dropped too many passes and its time to get to see what Hardy and Johnson can do. Personally, I think Johnson is the most interesting. I am not surprised by Denney, as Ellis and Maybin figure into getting more playing time this year, especially Maybin after being a first round pick. Reed though would have been nice to keep. He had reliable hands and was a good blocker. However, if we get both Hardy and Johnson on the field then someone had to go.
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Lee Evans 2006 82 receptions
Mike Furrey 2006 98 receptions
I guess mike furrey should be making 15 million a season!
Dude, you are reaching now and you know it...if you honestly want to compare Furrey to Evans, then you already elminiated yourself from this conversation. Its not worth even discussing with you anymore.
You are just scrambling to find a way to justify calling the stats I said he would have easily had in Philly delusional after I showed you he already put those stats up with lowly JP Losman and a terrible Bills team...
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He would be #2 in philly right now. He was a #2 in Buffalo this past year.
Hey do you know who Mike Furrey is? He had 98 receptions for the Lions in 2006, I guess this makes him a hall of fame player if he has Mcnabb for a QB!
Um, who said anything about this?
You sais those stats were delusional if he was in Philly, yet he already put similar stats up playing on a much worse team with a terrible QB...
So how would putting those stats up in Philly be delusional?
And you would have to be a complete fool to compare Furrey to Evans...no offense...I mean you are really reaching now
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Do you think he is overpaid?
I think a lot of WR would be putting up top 10 numbers if they had Manning for a QB.
You are saying he is overpaid based on his stats...I get that, and yes, if it was just his stats I would say he is overpaid looking at a piece of paper. However, his stats are not his fault. His talent level is WAY higher than his stats.
And NO, you dont have to have Manning...With Losman (who sucks) his stats were 82 rec, 1300 yds, and 8 TD's...thats with Losman...that is how bad our coaching, play calling, and more importantly how absolutely terrible Edwards has been since that year.
So, he is not overpaid, he is absolutley under utilized as a result of atrocious QB play, coaching, and play calling.
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Really? Go back and watch film, he is NOT a good route runner, nor blocker and he drops balls and or tips them to DB's/LB's for interceptions.
He is a #2 in this league at best.
Stop it Darth...you act like you study film on him and have game tape...no offense, but you talk out of your back side way too much bro...
Lee has great hands and to try and claim he doesnt is just unfounded. And he does run good routes, my guess is you dont even know what a good route is or have played football if you think otherwise. The problem isnt the way he runs a route, its the routes called and the very POOR throws from the QB during his routes.
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This is simply delusional.
I said 80+ catches, 12 TD's, and 1500 yards playing in Philly catching passes from McNabb and you said simply delusional? Really now...so you must think JP Losman was one heck of a QB if you think those numbers are delusional with McNabb throwing him the ball in a pass first offense...
Losman to Evans in 2006 = 82 catches, 1300 yards, and 8 TD's
To say those numbers are delusional shows that you must be delusional because he already put up similar numbers behind a bad QB, weak O Line, and Bad coaching staff...
Yet you some how think its delusional to have those numbers on a team with a really good QB, pretty good O Line, and a really good coaching staff...
Man this board is priceless at times...
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Because there is no chance of winning anything in the next two years. 4 wins will likely be overachieving, and hence it would just make all the sense in the world to pick up what draft picks we can and rebuild.
What doesn't make sense is keeping and exorbitantly overpriced and underachieving receiver on the roster when without a legitimate starting QB, and no semblance of an offensive line that could actually protect a QB, there simply is no way that the guy is going to be productive at all.
WR is one of the easier positions in the league to acquire. With a decent QB and a good line, you don't really need great WRs anyway. What we do need is a QB and a lot of help on both lines, so we should just get what value we can out of the guy and start drafting for the future. Again.
Southgeorgia, you are at it again...another post so stupid it barely warrants a response. You just showed how LITTLE you actually know about football in this one post. Not that anyone on this board needed more proof as just about every post you make illustrates that.
First, there is definitely a chance of winning in the next 2 years. The Rams were the worst team in the league the year before they won the Super Bowl...Miami won the division a year after winning one game...so to say that in todays NFL that you cant win anything in the next 2 years is absurd. Especially since we have holes, but we also have some good players amongst this team, a lot of them young and still improving. To say winning four games would be over achieving is so blatantly ignorant, especially since we have won 27 games the last 4 years and we should be better this year than last.
But, the DUMBEST thing you just said is that WR is one of the easier postions in the league to acquire...hahahahahaha, are you kidding me? WR is the exact OPPOSITE...its one of the hardest positions to replace, and its also traditionally one of the hardest positions for a rookie to make an impact. Few exceptions occur sure like Boldin's record setting rookie year, but that is rare.
My guess is that your 4 game claim was becuase thats all you won in your season on Madden...
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Lee Evans is the most overpaid, and overrated player the Bills have ever had on their roster. He earns 9 Million/year and gives us little in return. He never shows up in big games, and never takes a leadership role. I would rather have 20 other recievers that would come at a cheaper price.
If the Bills could get 3rd, or two 4th round draft choices I would take it and run!
Does anyone share my sentiments?
Another lame noob post...Lee Evans is a top level WR and would be putting up top 10 numbers EASILY on another team with a decent QB. Put him in Philly last year and he puts up atleast 80 catches, 12TD's and 1500 yards. This guy is one of the most under utilized players ever on this team and its a dam shame.
WR's dont throw to themselves...WR's dont make the game plan...WR's dont call the plays...and guess what, during his career all three aspects of that have been atrocious...Terrible QB's, Terrible game plan, and Terrible play calling. The coaches dont even run anything underneath for him. They dont move him around to find creative ways to get him the ball.
He is the best player on our offense. Freddie is a close second, but replacing a RB is light years easier than replacing a talented WR. I actually feel sorry for Lee for being stuck in this wasteland of an offense most of his career.
Bad news for those wanting a LT at #9
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Yeah, you never know. Mocks are too early now anyway without free agency even under way. But, I do think Bradford, Suh, McCoy and Okung are all a lock for top 5. Bulaga is close to a lock for top 8 too. That problem is that so many teams desperately need help at OT in the top 8 (Rams, KC, Was, Det, TB, Sea, and Oak) and there are only about 3 players that are not LT's that a surely going top 8 (Bradford, Suh, and McCoy). Cle is the only team I am certain will not go OL and most likley take Haden, Berry or Juan Pierre-Paul.
So with 7 of the 8 teams ahead of us in dire need of OL help and only 3 non O Line players almost a lock to be taken amongst them, that leaves a high probability that at least 3 and even 4 OT's will be taken.
The Raiders are the wild card...they may do something insane like draft Taylor Mays here over an OT and Eric Berry because Al Davis is a complete moron...