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Ravens' secondary getting thinner by the day
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...NFL&id=4967
"Ravens DB Cary Williams has been suspended two games for violating the NFL's personal conduct policy.
That certainly won't help Williams' chances of making the final roster. The Ravens' secondary was already tissue-paper thin with Ed Reed, Lardarius Webb, and Fabian Washington all questionable for the start of the season. The cause of Williams' suspension is not yet known."
Donte for Troy Smith...worth a shot and frees up cap money from Donte's contract.
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Geezus, it just keeps getting worse...so now you want to trade our starting safety for a guy who possibly would not even make our roster and wouldnt have a shot of entering the season as our starter this late in the game...brilliant...especially since Troy could be had for next to nothing if we wanted him (which we dont)...
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Yo BetaPuppy! Can you provide the link for when Troy was cut? You are less than useless because you spread misinformation to the masses. Why do you even post?
What is really funny is your statement about this being a 5 page post when it was YOUR REPLY ACTUALLY MADE IT A 6 PAGE POST! LOL...Oh the irony.
What you people can't seem to realize is that wanting Troy Smith has less to do with him being the next Peyton Manning and more to do with Trent and company SUCKING! Such advanced logic might be beyond you but the idea is to promote competition at the position. If you want I am pissing myself for a real challenger. REAL competition. As I have stated before owners/GMs can get locked in on the guy they think should be the starting QB and will do everything to try to make themselves look like they didn't back the wrong guy.
Ralph's good AFL buddy Al Davis is a PERFECT example. He lost a head coach and kicked Jeff Garcia out of town because he wanted to be proven right that Jamarcus Russell was a starting QB in the NFL. WRONG. He was a complete joke. Everyone knew it but Al. Why was Jeff Garcia run out of town? Because he was better than Russell. To give Russell every chance for success Al made sure there was nobody on the staff that presented a credible threat. It is entirely probable that that dynamic has been at work in Buffalo with the lack of any real competition to Trent.
I personally want success for my beloved team. Continuing to coddle Edwards and challenge him with straw man candidates is not the way to achieve it.
One, he is so irrelevant that I could care less about him let alone know that he wasnt already cut. Last article I read said it looked like they were going to cut him, so I thought he was cut. Regardless, its a mute point, you are just drawing at straws to be right about something in this thread...the fact remains, they are replacing him as the back up QB with Bulger regardless if he stays on the roster, is traded, or cut. So the point is still completely the same which is:
They thought so little of him they spent a frist round draft pick on Flacco and then this year replaced him as the back up with a washed up Bulger...so even with all of that talent on that roster, he couldnt show them enough for them to feel comfortable with him filling in if Flacco got hurt...
And there is no indicator of what page my post will appear on, it was 5 pages when I responded...so another worthless point in an absolute pointless thread...
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Sure it was. That was Jauron's attempt. He WANTED an inept offense.
First, Trent did NOT lead a 4th quarter comeback win vs the Rams.
The Bills were down 14-13 entering the 4th quarter, and that changed with Greer's pick 6.
By the time goober threw his first TD, the Bills were already ahead.
Second, look at his stats again.
4 TD's in 4 games. Did you know all 4 came in the 4th quarter?
The drubbing of Seattle? Thank you Special teams.
2 FG by Lindell, a punt return for a TD by Parrish, and a Moorman pass to Denney for a TD on a FG attempt.
Goobers TD was the last score of the game.
Third, in 2008
Raiders were 5-11, and defensively were 24th in points and 27th in yards
Seattle was 4-12, and defensively was 25th in points and 30th in yards
Rams were 2-14, and defensively were 31st in points and 28th in yards
Jax was 5-11, and defensively was 21st points, and 17th in yards
Other than Jax, those were some god awful defenses, and even Jax, at best, was below average.
Non-linear post concussion syndrome, phantom concussions, ... whatever excuse works for you.
Can we just stick a fork in him and move on?
^^THIS^^
Thank you, now I dont have to post this stuff again...one of the biggest MYTHS about Trent have been him somewhow being good in our 4-0 start when he struggled in every game except Sea, was very unproductive, and had to eek out wins against awful teams that were made possible more by other players than Trent.
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I love it...this is a 5 page thread (not to mention the dozens of other threads on Troy) dedicated to a player that:
A) Will not be coming to Buffalo this offseason no matter how much Pdaddy wets himself over it...
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B) Was a guy that had shown so little that the Ravens used a 1st round pick on a QB, and then this year he was cut for a washed up old QB who hasnt been good in years...I mean he couldnt show them enough to keep them from signing Bulger or cutting him despite being on a great team with great RB's, great WR's, good TE, and a really good OL.
I mean I dont know what thread is more priceless...this one or the other gem dedicated to comparing Trent to Drew Brees...
Now all we are missing is a thread by Southgeorgiabillsfan talking about how Trent Pwned the NFL so far...
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My point with this comparison is Edwards has shown flashes of brilliance.
Come on now...flashes of brilliance? Real question here...what games have you watched? I mean he hasnt had a single game where the word "brilliant" should be used, let alone shown it multiple time indicated by the fact you made that plural. I mean his best game (against KC) was handed to him on a silver platter by our D which had 5 takeaways and the fact that KC was one of the absoulte worst teams and defenses in the league. He has not had a game yet where he just dominated the game and had command the whole game. Not since High School...
His best games have been games that are about average for the better QB's in the league. A good game for Trent is 220 yards and 2 TD's...and he has only been able to get 2 TD's in a game just 5 times in his 30 starts...thats pathetic.
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Geezus...how many hopeless threads are going to be started about a QB who we are not going to sign? I mean, this guy showed so little, that Balt drafted Flacco in the first round instead of giving Troy a shot, then this year they had so little confidence in him to lead this team if Flacco went down that they went out and signed an old Bulger who hasnt been good in a while and then cut Troy.
I get a bunch of threads being started for someone like McNabb, who we had interest in and tried to get, but for Troy Smith? This board is hysterical...
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I think we will be a top 12 defense. I feel we will get more pressure on the QB, but not as much as we will eventually need meaning more upgrades next year. The run defense will be improved but it is hard not to improve on that mess from last year.
Truthfully, this depends a lot on our offense. If our offense is as bad as last year, then sadly our D is going to be more like 15-20 at best because they will be on the field way too often. If our offense can be solid or better and not keep going 3 and out allowing our defense to get off the field, then I think our potential could be top 10 barring major injuries.
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That is the most insane aspects...Go back to the game against Washington in 2007 or the game against Jacksonville, the game against Denver to finish the 2008 season or the rout he put on in Kansas City. For the 1st three years both Edwards and Brees were INCONSISTENT QBs producing INCONSISTENT plays as reflected in their teams Win-Loss column.
You mean the Jac game where he had 1 TD and the game recap which highlights the play of our RB's? Here is the "Gameball Recap: The running back tandem of Marshawn Lynch and Fred Jackson was potent. Lynch did the dirty work, carrying the ball 19 times for 59 yards, including an 11-yard touchdown run on the game's opening drive. Jackson, who caught just 22 balls last season, was consistently targeted out of the backfield by Edwards. He caught a team-high seven passes for 83 yards.
You mean the Redskins game where he had ZERO TDs? I love too that there was a"dominating performance" by Larry Triplett (yeah that panned out too, lol) in that game...
You mean the KC game against one of the abosulte worst defenses in the game where our defense gave us 5 turnovers and great field position all game as well?
You mean the Den game where he had just 190 yards and just 1 TD (plus 1 INT and a fumble) against an awful defense, in fact one of the worst in the league?
Seriously, he passed for 4 touchdowns in those 4 games, mostly against bad defenses too that were getting lit up by better quarterbacks. Not exactly a commanding stretch of games for him, and sadly, those are probably his best games as a pro...
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agreed...However, the chargers got it right on that last season for Brees, including having a good OC in Norv Turner. Hopefully Chain Gailey is that person for Edwards. I also think that was the 1st productive season for LT. Lot of good things happened for SD that year.
Actually, LT was productive the years Brees struggled too...he hadover 1600 yards if I am not mistaken the year before Brees broke when he had a bad year with more INTs than TDs
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Hey Alpha. Not saying I disagree with your opinion but I have a theory you played D in the Pac-10 at the same time TE was at Stanford and he torched your team. Am I close?
Just messin' with ya.
GO BILLS!!!
Hahahaha...that was great, havent heard that one before.
No, not the case, I was a bit before his time. But I WISH that were true because then I wouldnt have just turned 34 with a 45 year olds left knee and lower back
And lets face it, Trent hasnt torched any team since High School, so even if I was still playing while he was at Stanford it wouldnt have been true and probably would have helped me pad my stats
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Did you see Brees throw in his 1st four years...I believe he throws much better now than when he was in SD.
As you gain confidence, you get better.
Lets see, how can we bring people back to reality once again...
1. SD had no one to throw to in his early years...Gates didnt break out until 2004, coincidentally the same year Brees broke out. Trent has had Evans and even a year with both Evans and TO.
2. Brees was a highly touted prospect coming out of college and very succesful at Purdue, Trent didnt even win a game his last year at Stanford and had one 300 yard passing game in all of college.
More importantly, lets look at a couple of things that your stat totals dont show during Brees first 3 years and Trents first 3 years. during that time, Drew had 27 starts and Trent has 30...so, not only are these below better for Brees, but he did them in 3 less games.
300 yard games
Brees - 5, +1 more with 296 yards
Trent - ZERO
Multiple TD games:
Brees - 9
Trent - 5
Total TD's
Brees - 29
Trent - 24
The point is, Brees at least had some games that showed potential and he did it with no talent at WR or TE (remember Gates didnt break out until 2004, the same year Brees did), where Trents best games were average at best. Trents greatest claim to fame and potential was the 4-0 start we had. The truth behind that is that he only played well in the Sea game week 1 and struggled most of the time in the games against Rams, Oak, and Jax (all 4 were amongst the worst in the NFL). He gets so much credit for those 3 comeback wins where in 2 of them they were made possible by plays from Mitchell, the ST, and Lynch, not Trent.
At no point has Trent ever taken command of a game. At no point since high school has Trent done anything on the field in any game that has demonstrated anything remotely close to Brees.
Its amazing how many great QB's this guy gets compared to on this board yet he wasnt even a good college QB let alone a good NFL QB.
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Well, he WAS a #2 WR on the Cards. Fitzgerald was #1.
But I think the response points out two things:
#1. The position of the WR on any given team doesn't equal a particular draft pick. It's an idiotic question. (Consider the source)
#2. The idea that Evans is a #2 (when clearly he has been the Bills #1 for years) is also flawed. Evans would likely be #1 on at least 50% of NFL teams, IMO. He has to be one of the most underrated players in the NFL at this point. Given the QB situation, and the general incompetence of the Bills offense during his tenure, it's pretty impressive Evans has put up the numbers he has, to date.
In response to the original question, I doubt the Bills could get what Evans is worth. I think it's a fairly dumb idea to begin with.
Totally agree...
Plus, in a case like Boldin and Fitz...its really like 1A and 1B. Boldin clearly produced at high levels with Fitz, before Fitz, and when Fitz was out. There are very few teams that he would not be the best WR on.
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Ask Boldin.
Are you implying Boldin is a #2 WR? He is literally a top 5 WR in the NFL and has produced at a very high level his entire career as a #1 before Fitz got there and when Fitz has missed games. He set the rookie record for receptions with over 100 on a bad Cardinals team as the #1 WR and has never looked back. This guy is a beast with great hands, route running, run after the catch, strength, and intelligence on the field...his only knock is that he has had a few injuries because of his physical style of play. Not to mention he is an excellent blocker on the field too.
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That was a really informative link, thanks.
Nerd.
I cant help but notice the gibberish post about not being able to get a 2nd for Lee and then this gem of a follow up showcasing the word "nerd" when someone blasted it.
Clearly you are a kid who plays Madden and doesnt really know football. So I will spare you the lashing for the absurd notion that Lee's value is less than a 2nd round pick. Lees problem isnt talent within himself, its been the lack of talent from our QB's who have been the worst collection of QB's in the NFL the last 3 years outside of Oakland.
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Fitz 50%
Brohm 20%
Brown 20%
Trent 10%
Through pre season Trent will rack up the completion percentage, sacks, picks, and 3 and outs. Fitz won't be pretty, but we'll score more points with him a the controls. He'll study harder and learn the offense better than the others.
Brohm I'm not so sure about. I don't watch much college football and never heard his name until the Bills got him last year. Some highly touted college QBs are great like P. Manning, Staubach, and Brees. Other aren't like Danny Werful, Ryan Leaf, Art Schlister, Brian Sipe, and J Russell. Brown, who knows? But he does have the most "upside" (translation: hasn't done anything yet) than any of the other QBs.
Really, if Trent doesn't play lights out, he'll be cut. He's in the last year of his contract. If he can't win the job this year, why keep him? Brohm or Brown could be just as good backups.
Are these your odds to be top of the pecking order day 1 of camp or to be the week 1 starter? What I wrote were the odds of who was going to be the top of the pecking order day 1 of camp.
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Why is this thread still going as if Chan announced anything?
1. Chan has NOT announced to anyone his pecking order, and all of this is based on a report by an unreliable reporter and alleged players opinnions on what they think it will be. Why on Earth would Chan tell players on the team and NOT his QB's? Am I the only one who realizes how stupid that is and is the number 1 indicator that this tool Moran is just reporting hear say that may not even exist?
2. Who acutally cares who is at the top of the pecking order anyway to start camp. What is so confusing about the fact that Chan has made it 100% clear that there will be a full blown open competition to win the job. Someone has to be listed as QB1 come camp, however, it actually means nothing at all what so ever in terms to who the starter will be come week one. The QB battle was not won or lost in the OTA's, it was just the beginning to the real battle which will be fought in camp and preseason.
Doesnt matter if its Brohm, Fitz or Trent...means nothing...but here is how I put the odds of who will be top of pecking order day 1 of camp:
Trent 50% - Based on experience and percieved potential to be a starter.
Brohm 40% - Based on improvements during OTA and higher potential than any QB on the roster. Lack of experience means he probably has to win it in camp rather before he sits atop pecking order.
Fitz 10% - Long shot to become the starter let alone be atop pecking order day 1, but possible. He has not been very accurate and seems better suited as a solid backup than a full time starter. He didnt seperate himself according to reports during the OTA's, and he is a guy that needed to if he was going to become a real threat for QB1. Still has time to shine in camp and preseason though.
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When the Pack lose Aaron Rodgers, Greg Jennings, Ryan Grant, Jermichael Finley, Charles Woodson, and Nick Collins then it's winnable.
+1
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Bills are in real contention for a wildcard spot going into week 15 behind an emerging Brohm, potent rush attack, top 10 D, and top 5 ST unit. Our passing game will be revitalized with the emergence of Nelson and Spiller as well.
Sad thing is, I actually think this is a real possibility. I ultimately think we miss the playoffs mainly because I would expect it will take some time for this team to gel. But, our D, running game, and ST look like they an all have serious potential this year. QB and the O Line are really the biggest wild cards right now. If a QB can emerge and be solid or better in this new offense and the O line can at least be average instead of terrible, then this team could surprise some people this year.
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An equally relevant question -- think how many times our receivers ran routes that didn't simply involve turning around and waiting for the pass? Not very often.
Come on now...I cant tell you how many times we had guys open and in place to make plays where Trent literally just dumped off on some check down. It is no mistake he is nicknamed Capt Checkdown, its because he earned that title. I mean he wouldnt even try and throw to them. Against NE, TO and Lee and the other WR's combined for 5 targets if I am not mistaken or something close to that while Moss and Welker combined for over 30 by themselves.
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Whats with all the Trent threasds today? Did Chan come out and name him the unquestioned starter and I just miss it? I mean, seems like some weak writer wrote an article based on hear say from unidentified sources that Trent was going to be the top of pecking order when camp opens and all of a sudden this board is Trent crazy with threads.
1. No QB has been named the starter.
2. Who ever enters camp at the top of Chans pecking order still is NOT the starter as its still a full on QB competition.
3. Trent was always the guy most likely to enter camp at the top of pecking order anyway and by no means indicates he has won the job. Someone has to be at the top to start camp, but its still anyones job to win.
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Based on these facts I think Trent will start and play well:
In the Nfl if you start and win you get the win, so in Trents case that about evens out based on JP injuries and his. With that:
Trent's win vs loses are
5-4 in 2007
7-7 in 2008
2-5 in 2009
14-16 career win/lose.
Now in those starts he has a career 61.3 completion %.
Now flip a coin on the following games that the defense and special teams help lose:
2007 Cleveland
2008 Cleveland
2009 Cleveland and Monday night meltdown NE.
I kept the Dallas meltdown a lose, because he threw 3 int's.
With these four games he is 18-13 career win/lose and he plays more games.
Also with a weak OL you have to Checkdown in this league. Even with playoff teams OL's Rodgers and Ben got put on thier back 87 times and 143 times respectively over the same three years and Fitz was sacked 59 times over the last two years (he has no 2007 stat's) against Trent's career sacks of just 58.
Now add Chan's coaching and I think he does well.
I know stats are for losers, but is he really a loser or was he in a "No Win" situation and produce well for 3 year guy?
LMAO...dude, Trent was a main reason we lost those games you listed...not to mention, many of those wins you credit him for we got because of our D and ST, not because of Trent who played bad in many of those wins.
Trent has been atrocious in way more games than he has been good in. The completion % is an illusion, just watch the games rather than google stats. He is not very accurate throwing past 10 yards and sees his completion % significantly boosted as a direct result of all the chekdown short throws and screens.
The BIGGEST Bills myth of all time is definitely Trents accuracy. His passes dont hit recievers in stride, often flutter, puts way too much air on med to deeper balls allowing DB's to make plays on the ball or tackle the WR immediately, throws them too high/low/short, etc.
This guy has not been nearly as accurate as people want to believe because his % looks good on paper. All you have to do is stop and think how many times our recievers were able to catch the ball in stride and make plays after the catch...not very often.
Who knows, maybe Chan can help him take a big leap forward, lord knows we need someone too. But, his past performances have shown him to not be very accurate on med to longer throws nor has he demonstrated a good enough ability to read defenses and time his throws.
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This article is a classic example of how easy it is to report whatever you want without having to validate it to be true. I can post the same article claiming players have told me that Troy Brown is top of the pecking order going into camp. It means nothing and cant be proved or disproved. This guy who wrote it is known for gibberish...
I will wait until I hear something from Gailey for one...more importantly though, this will be a full open competition regardless of who is listed atop the initial "pecking order". There has to be someone listed first, and who it is doesnt really mean squat becaue the QB battle will be won and lost during the preseason and camp, not our OTA's.
So, I dont understand the concern about who will be listed first initially, because it ultimately is irrelevant as the battle has just begun for QB1
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4) Brohm has a lot to prove, coming off his record setting junior season in Louisville, and then falling off enough his senior year to cause him to drop into the second round of the draft before Green Bay selected him, a team that already had Aaron Rogers as their established Favre replacement anyway.
Good post, but actually, he did not drop off his Sr. year, it was by far his best year as a QB statistically. Louisville dropped off and finished 6-6 because they no longer had a defense that could stop a high school. Brohm had a couple of bad games trying to force things while playing catch up, but overall he had by far his best statistical season.
He threw for 1000 more yards, 13 more TD's, and raised his comp % from 63.6% to 65.1%. His QB rating did drop a few points because his ints went up from having to play catch up so much, but was still 151.73 and still had 29tds to only 12ints.
The reason his stock fell was because Louisville finished 6-6 and Ryan and Flacco were also shooting up the boards.
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Do we really need to find some obscure stat to make us feel like Edwards is any good ?.
Kelly was cocky and had just as much as an ego to match it. He was vocal (wrong or right) on the fields as well as off.
But he also believed he could win all by himself and never doubted his abilities. He had the fire and will to win and his teammate believed and followed him.
Other than the fact that they both wore the same uniform, they are miles apart.
+1 ^^^what he said exactly^^^
I find it so comical how so many people try and find some pathetic link in some statistical category or playing style of the greats to somehow give Edwards potential or make him look good.
Come on now, its not just about his stats...watch the games. This guy has poor field vision, lacks poise, seen his confidence get shaken big time, terrible timing, checksdown even on 3rd and long, an ugly med to deep game, and doesnt know how to throw to WHERE the reciever will be open in a defense and instead tends to wait until the WR is open (which in the NFL means the WR will no loinger be open upon delivery of the ball).
Does it mean he cant improve...no...but all these threads trying to find statistical comparison to greats like Montana, Kelly, Brees, etc are just terrible. Trent has never had any of that swagger nor their talent. Doesnt mean he cant be turned around and be serviceable, I mean anything is possible. But come on with all these attempts to somehow link him to the greats.
And I get that a player needs time to develop, but Trent not only has not developed yet, but he has progessively gotten worse. I have never seen a guy live on his High School hype more than him. Lets see...
-He hasnt had a single healthy season since High School.
-He has just ONE 300 yard passing game since High School.
-He hasnt been a winner since High School. I mean, his last year at Stanford, they won ONE game and it was the one game he did NOT play in since he was hurt...he played in every other game and they lost each one.
This guy has been a "potential" guy his whole life...he wasnt very productive in College nor did he win a lot of games and has been even worse in the NFL. Thats a long time to just get by on his high school hype because he certainly hasnt done anything impressive at any level since High School.
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Cinco would know better than TMZ as he not only is a Bengal but is friends with TO. I would say that if Cinco is publicly saying this then I think there has to be something to it. So even though both sides deny it (as they often do even when true), I would say this must be close to a done deal given Chads confidence that he is being joined by TO to start training camp.