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Video is up...looks pretty good, Brohm looked good and so did some of our young pass catchers...
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I read the article in the Buffalo News, I must have missed the ad lib's per Rotoworld:
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playernews.aspx?sport=NFL
"There's not a first or a third right now," Gailey said. "We're going to go to camp with it being an open deal. To me anybody has a chance to win the job. It's not just lip service." Brian Brohm threw a slew of interceptions at Friday's practice, but he's the only "veteran" QB currently in camp, giving him something of a head start. The Bills' passing game is going to stink this year.
LOL...read the report from camp, it actually spoke positively on Brohm...here is a clip...the only INTs they reference were 2 by McKelvin, one was what sounded like an outstanding play by McKelvin and the other a mis timed play...
At quarterback Brohm was accurate for the most part and threw mostly short to intermediate range passes. Brown tried to stretch the field more and throws a nice looking long ball. His arm looked lively in the first practice session.
McKelvin had two off Brian Brohm. The first was a short pass near the middle of the field, but McKelvin reached around and underneath Marcus Easley to come up with the INT. Later in practice McKelvin made his second interception as the timing appeared off between Brohm and Felton Huggins on a pass play down the near sideline.
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is taking 2nd team snaps…behind 6th round pick Danny Batten and undrafted free agent Antonio Coleman.
Many people here are hopeful and/or predicting that Maybin will experience instant success as a rush linebacker in our new 3-4 scheme.
He was our first round draft pick last year.
Snide "bust" comments notwithstanding, isn't this more than a bit alarming that Maybin is taking snaps behind a 6th round draft pick and an undrafted free agent?!?!?
Maybe they're trying to light a fire under his ass. Either that or they think more highly of the other two players. There's not too many possible explanations out there.
Way too early to tell anything...
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And just one quick thing on the so called experts and mock drafters. If any of them were any good or worth a dam at all, they would be employed for a lot more money by the NFL teams...
Mock drafts are about as accurate as Dick Chaney after a bottle Yukon Jack on a hunting trip. HYPE...yes HYPE is what makes mock drafts...HYPE is where your grades come from...HYPE is where these experts make their money talking about players...and HYPE is why its all BS until these guys hit the field.
Go back and look at all the spots these guys do prior to each draft and during the draft...they miss, and miss big, constantly on their evaluations. Every year they bash or hype up selections just to be constantly proven wrong. Kiper, McShay, etc are just a bunch of on air time fillers to get ratings during the draft. Do they provide interesting and educating insight on players coming out, sure, but thats where their value and accuracy ends.
They dont know anymore about the interest of the FO of teams than the casual fans do...they dont know which guys technique the FO feels they can adjust, coach up, or fit into their scheme best. They dont know squat is the bottom line, they just make some fun educated guesses and allow fans to pile on the low grades or jump on the band wagon of the bad grades.
Perfect example...I said all offseason we would NOT draft a QB mid round or above because we have Brohm who is just as good a prospect that hasnt had a shot yet. However, all you heard from the pundits was how we would take Claussen, Tebow, McCoy, etc because we desperately needed a QB DESPITE having Brohm who was the very guy whos jock they were on just 2 years ago and many said would be the starter in GB after he was drafted within 2 years, if not that year. Then the FO came and did just that, roll with Brohm and company this year first before we waste a good pick on a QB. Shows how much the pundits knew...
So, I could care less about the grade we have right now...what I look at is how I feel about the players we got, and I really like the players we got and the way this FO is taking this team. Will it work out, we will see, but right now to give a grade is literally just mindless entertainment and nothing to get worked up about.
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Please do not call our RB corp the best of anything. Your remark reminds me of those idiots that proclaimed our WRs the best in the league prior to a game being played last year. Our RBs and running game are marginal until they can show they can close out and win a tough game when we are behind. I have not seen that happen in years. Just because our RBs and DBs are the only solid part of this team it does not mean they are anywhere near the best in the league. They are just the better parts of a sordid, pathetic team. Take off the rose colored glasses and get ef'in real. Freddy is capable but ranks around 20 to 25th among starting backs. Lynch is a punk that quit last year and quit again this off season. Yet you call him part of the best RB backfields? Spiller has never carried the ball, he could easily be like Reggie Bush who takes three years to develop and still isn't a starter. I am so sick of you guys who think the Bills make the playoffs by only looking at the players on the Bills and completely forget that the other teams (1) ended the season with better teams than ours (2) signed more and better FAs ( 3) had drafts that addressed immediate team needs (4) have better coaching (5) have franchise QBs and (6) are not making wholesale changes to their teams and schemes. Yet in spite of all that we must be better than they are because we did not follow the logic of solidifying our offensive line and / or getting a franchise QB.
What does any of this have to do with the topic on hand or my original post other than some rant about how putrid you view our team
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So, we would have had an overwieght and unmotivated NT, a prima donna QB who is rumored to already pissed his teammates off, and just 1 30 year old RB instead of the best offensive player in the draft, one of the best RB corps in the league (if not the best) and the perfect NT for our system...
ROFLMAO on how that takes us to an "A" instead of a "C"
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Um, 'you, alone'????
Where were you on Pearl Harbor Day last year?LOL...ah, late to the party...I was supporting Brohm in multiple threads in November, where were you Senator...lol
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Per the Bills website:
http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2010/05/06/n...g-this-weekend/
Here is the rundown of first and second-year players on the Bills roster that are expected to participate in the team’s rookie minicamp this weekend.
On offense
Brian Brohm
Christian Gaddis
Nick Hennessey
Felton Huggins
Steve Johnson
Andy Levitre
Walter Mendenhall
Jamon Meredith
Shawn Nelson
Andre Ramsey
Jonathan Stupar
Jason Watkins
Defense
Reggie Corner
Jon Corto
Rashaad Duncan
Chris Ellis
Marlon Favorite
Cary Harris
Lonnie Harvey
Ellis Lankster
Ryan Manalac
Aaron Maybin
Leodis Mckelvin
Lydell Sargeant
I put the ones in bold that I think are most interesting on this list. Some are a given as to why (Borhm, Maybin, Johnson, Nelson, Levitre, McKelvin), but there are a few others I like on here and want to see if they can put a nice off season together.
Reggie Corner - He has shown some potential in the past, would love to see if this guy can step up and get in the rotation.
Cary Harris - I liked this kid in college, he was a player (of course that doesnt mean squat in the NFL). I think he could be a good ST player and maybe have an outside chance of being a backup DB.
Ellis Lankster - I think this kid could add a lot of value to ST and has sleeper potential to be an effective DB as well. I would love to see him make the active roster and get on the field.
Chris Ellis - Make or break time for him...it would be great if he could step up and be solid depth for us in our front 7.
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Big thanks to the mods (even the one I am not particulary fond of...lol
) for running such a great board. There isnt even another board I go to of any kind, just this one. Being self employed I pretty much have the time to do whatever each day, and within that time I always make a stop here at this board and often several times in a day. Its pratically become part of my morning routine that starts with a quick check on the market and my portfolio, then my email, and then TSW. This is usally followed by breakfast and a cup of coffee (with Baileys in it...if you havent had your coffee with Baileys in it you are missing out
) before I get back on the computer for round 2 of checking my email and this board.My girl thinks its funny that I get on here so much, but then again she checks her facebook almost as much. Being out here in Southern California, I dont really have any sources for Bills news unless its a major move covered by national media (like TO being signed, Jauron being fired, etc). So, this is really my only source for info on the Bills. So thank you for such a great site, I look forward to the improvements and cant wait to see them.
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Love all the Brohm love now!!
but where were you all while I alone repeatedly called for Brohm's shot to start???
Are the Lefavour lovers going to follow his career in Chicago; what about the McCoy fans in Cleveland?
or McNabb in DC?
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LOL...you werent alone...a lot of us have been, just that we were in the minority before. Now that the FO and staff have shown a vote of confidence in the potential in these guys others have opened up to the idea too.
Only time will tell if it works out, but I can't see any negative reason not to give the kid a shot given how little we have invested in him and the upside he brings to the table.
Little risk, Big reward potential is always a win win for a team...Merdith is another low risk, big reward kind of guy too...
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Those that are a little more familiar with Brohm....is this guy mobile, does he like to run ?
I can only recall the Louisville days and he was a accurate good throwing quarterback at that level just curious if he's a statue or like to run
He is Tom Brady kind of mobile (and NOOOO, I am not comparing him to Brady or saying he is as good in the pocket as Brady...just using Brady as a reference to the TYPE of mobility Brohm has)...What I mean is that Brady isnt the kind of guy that you worry about scrambling down field, but he is mobile in the pocket and has a good sense of the rush.
That was what Brohm was able to do in college...he isnt going to rip off a 10 yard run at will, but he did have good pocket mobility, and in his last season he was often scrambling for his life at Louisville as their line wasnt very good...something I am sure he will be experiencing here until this line can pull together and someone can step up and man the LT spot.
So no, he isnt a runner, but he deomstrated good pocket presence in college, so hopefully that pocket mobility can be something he can bring to this level as he is going to need it until this line solidifies.
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Most telling part of the article and his one game here...this is how crappy the situation was for him...
Eager to absorb his new playbook as quickly as possible, Brohm quickly discovered he’d be on his own with that task.
“Coming in and getting settled was fairly difficult just because of the number of coaches that were still available to me,” Brohm said. “Coach Van Pelt did everything he could, but he was the offensive coordinator and the quarterbacks coach. We didn’t have a separate quarterback coach so there was really no individual time that I could steal away from him because he was working on game plans. So there was a lot of watching film on my own and studying the playbook on my own and trying to get up to speed as quickly as possible.”
I wanted us to draft Brohm when he slipped to the 2nd round...then I was calling for us to sign Brohm in the preseason when GB initially cut him and put him on the PS...I also said he was brought in to compete this year for the job when we got him mid season...I have also said he has the most upside and will start the season as the starter IMO...
So, its no secret I think he has a lot of upside and not only can, but will eventually win the starting job here. This article just further solidifies that belief for me. He may struggle or never develop into a good starter...but thats a possibility for any prospect. But at this point, I am really high on his potential and think this kid will put in the time to get his game where it needs to be.
The good news is that if he does falter this year, next years QB class looks like its going to be pretty strong.
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Personally, I did not frequent the TG threads, mostly because posts of interest to me were to far apart and the thread mostly was made up of TSW posters. But I get the value he brings to the board, and regardless of your intent, he took offense. I for one do not think Leonidas should apologize for his opinnion, but I do think an apology of how he handled it, carried on about it, and presented it to a guest gracious enough to take the time to be here is in order.
His opinnion is what it is, we all have one, and they all differ. People like to hide behind intent to shake off responsibility. Just because your intent was not to run off TG doesn't excuse the fact that TG, a guest of the board, did take offense to your way of being.
But, I sense you can't put your ego aside and just own up to the fact that you were abrasive to the point that a valued poster on here took offense to it. Again, don't apologize for your opinnion, but a simple apology for the abrasive manner you took with a highly regarded guest is in order.
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You want childishness? No one's even brought up the role of the apology in all this.
The bottom line is that in any community most of the members will occasionally have moments of pure, idiotic, boorish behavior. And a small set of the members (say on the order of 5%) will simply be idiotic, boorish !@#$wits. That's just life. Having such behavior inflicted on oneself is, unfortunately, unavoidable. The solution isn't to discuss decorum, it's to forgive the momentary lapses and beat the living hell (figuratively speaking) out of the !@#$wits until they learn better. But it helps, quite a bit, when the people who momentary lapse actually step up to the plate and say "sorry, my bad".
hmmmm...sounds familiar to me...lol
I can attest to this...even some of the better posters have allowed themselves to stoop to the level of the lower quality posters on here and egadge in an on going exchange, myself included. After a while, sometimes the idiotic just start to wear down your patience (southgeorgiabillsfan, billsfan=pain, etc come to mind), especially when it starts to hijack a thread or they start 10 threads to make the same BS point. I have had to own to up to that before and had to issue such an apology. There were a handful of posters that just brought out the worst in me between the garbage they post, constant attacks on posters, or just flat posts of the absurd (mostly during the Trent Edwards is the greatest phase this board went through).
The I think the important thing to remember is if you find yourself engaged with one of the nits on here, that you just keep it to football and the topic. For the most part, if you keep it to football, then the other posters at least can get value out of it and participate in the discussion. And if you do get sucked in, take a step back, own up to it, and move on...
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Part of it might be that people like to see other people fall from the top while watching people rise from the bottom. It is fun to a lot of people to put down a guy who started at the top. Brohm was touted as the next Farve after Rodgers was failing. Meredith started at the bottom and now is working his way to the top.
I still do not think Brohm is the answer. Edwards, in my opinion is the better QB, but both have as many drawbacks. Of course, whoever starts will get my backing!
Yeah, society seems to rally more for the underdog and pile on a fall from grace...
Although, if you think about it...aren't they both underdogs at this point?
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The "good ones" like Flutie, Bledsoe, vanPelt, .......really? ...............Really?! Does anyone remember Bill Walsh? He was only the complete, ultimate authority on quarterbacks. When Edwards was drafted, he called Marv Levy personally to express his high opinion of Trent. Obviously he saw some type of potential there. I say this is the year Trent turns it around.
HAHAHAHA...oh the Bill Walsh defense again...this is by far my favorite. Lets see how many issues I can come up with this statement in 60 seconds (I literally have a stop watch so pardon any typos):
And GO:
1 Walsh was up in years and quite removed from the current NFL when he gave the endorsement
2 He also thought Drunkenmiller was the future of the 49ers who never made it past QB3
3 He traded up in the draft to get JJ Stokes and called him the "Next Jerry Rice"
4 Like any GM, he is wrong more than he is right...The greatest GMs in football history are all wrong more than they are right, its the quality of players they find when they are right, the value they find in the mid/late rounds, and their ability to find depth
5 He also s....................................................................times up
Crap ran out of time...#4 took too long...lol...doesnt matter, the ones I got out are enough.
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Not fer nuttin, but your avatar is killing me. I can't be on this site when the kids are up.
Fixed
Although, it was mild compared to many on here that it was just a bikini top...but I updated it none the less
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Tim, you will be missed and thanks for actually taking the time to contribute to the rest of us who appreciated the insight and conversation you provided...
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Wow. It must be tough for clean up the city boy to fall so far.
An NFL trades up to the 1st to get him and it is all downhill from there:
- A DB breaks his leg
- He struggles when he plays
- He loses his job to a glove wearing Mary
- He has to start his own league to get playing time
- He gets traded out of his own league to the Raiders.
How low can he go?
- A DB breaks his leg
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(not at your post, at your hopes of this being the last Trent thread)
Good luck with the whole "last thread" on Trent Edwards thing...
Honestly, one of the other QB's (Brohm, Fitz, or Levi) could come in and throw for 400 yards, 3 TD's and no turnovers in a win week 1 and someone will still start a thread about Trent is still the better option.
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All this coming from a guy who said Brohm's college tape (from 2007, mind you) was more relevant than his pre-season ("it's just exhibition!") and regular season ("it was one game!") tape here in the pros. You'll excuse me if I don't quite regard your opinion so highly.
Huh? Did I miss someting? Either you have a skewed memory of what I have said and decided to try and quote me very inaccurately, or you simply are thinking of another poster.
What I have said that a ROOKIE QB's performance in his first preseason is about the dumbest thing to rely on as proof a QB can make it or break it in the NFL...and it goes both ways. Some succes in the preseason doesnt mean it will translate to consistency or the regular season.
Case example 1: Kolb did ok in his preseason games then went out in the regular season and was atrocious in every appearance going into the 2009 where he had 0 TD's and many turnovers.
Its pretty much the consensus most difficult position in team sports to succeed at when playing at the Pro level and has the steepest learning curve going from college to Pros...yet you seem to think his preseason tape in his rookie year where he hardly played is somehow the defining evidence of his ability.
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Lots of good replies, and I get it has a lot to do with expectations, the high profile position of QB, etc. I know all that...
I guess the point that was puzzling to me is that neither was a high draft choice of this organization...neither cost us much...and neither came with any expectations. So, there is just so little risk for this team to give both of these guys a shot yet some people get so animated in slamming Brohm as if our team mortgaged its future to get him or something while being totally positive on Meredith.
And the vast majority of those slams are centered predominantly on him not beating out a 7th rounder (who the Packers are high on) for a back up spot on a team with a top 5 QB as its starter, all the while ignoring the fact Meredith couldnt make the active roster on a team in major need of help at his position.
Like Promo said too...its the offseason, what the hell else do we have to do...
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You are 100 percent correct with this point Alpha. IMO, people are like cattle and their thought process follows suit.
Meredith represents a relatively unfamiliar player, who has potential and is on a path of ascension. At least people really want to believe that. Many fans want to get on the bandwagon and say I had a feeling about that guy.
Brian Brohm represents a very well-known player, who despite his potential has not lived up to the hype yet. It's the hype that makes fans want to get on the bandwagon and say I had a feeling that guy stunk.
It's all about expectations and people's expectations can be based on any number of things. Alot of the time expectations are based on pure crap. Steve Johnson gets praised routinely on TSW and James Hardy gets shredded. What is the major difference between the two so far? Expectations
Brian Brohm is an easy target for the crowds and Jamon Meredith makes for a feel good story. What they have done in the NFL up to this point is comparable.
Yeah, Hardy and Steve Johnson is another good comparison.
Too many people get held up on draft slot as well. Where you were drafted, or even if at all, becomes pretty meaningless once you put the pads on and hit the field.
After 5 seconds of video from the first mini camp
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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LOL...the Stanford argument again...I played college ball, and in the Pac 10...I can personally assure you that some of the people on the Stanford football program are about as smart as my dog Kobe. That is true for any football program though. The point is, Trent was brought in on a football scholarship and did not have to meet the same academic requirements it would take for Joe Nobody off the street to get accepted into Stanford...The fact he played for Stanford equates to nothing when you are a top recruit.
Does it mean Trent is dumb...of course not...but it also doesnt mean his intelligence is automatically higher than everyone else just because he was highly recruited for FOOTBALL. However, his personal IQ is not what matters, its his FOOTBALL IQ which has consistently shown to be poor as he is a very poor decision maker and is has terrible field vision.
So, let go of the Stanford connection...it means nothing in the NFL.