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On Mike & Mike they said Russells bonus has already been paid out & he is due $9 Million next year, if he doesn't start he will likely be cut. It looks like JP will get the chance to compete for the starters job in camp next year. I guess we will have to wait & see how it plays out.
JP is only on essentially a 3 week contract...no guarantees he will still be with Raiders next year since he signed just a one year deal that expires at the end of this season...essentially making it a 3 week deal...
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what never ceases to amaze me is that people want a 5th year journeyman who has been absolutely lousy over a 3rd year QB that has shown flashes of talent.
I agree that Flacco> Edwards, but I believe that Flacco >Edwards> Fitz.
I just don't see what you guys are clinging to in Fitz, when the Bills are winning despite him.
What exactly were we doing when would win with Trent? We pretty much won inspite of his consistent ineptness. In all his games, he has about 3 good games, a couple of ok games, and the rest (even in wins) were below average or down right terrible.
Neither QB is any good, but at this point, Trent is gun shy and shot and the team is behind Fitz. You go with who the team is behind...its just that simple.
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Seriously? This thread is still going? And to top it off someone is still trying to argue that Flacco isnt better than Trent? LMAO...this board never ceases to amaze...
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Thats actually about the best place he could have gone. The Raiders have some young up and coming WR's (especially Murphy) and really good TE, and a stable of RB's (Bush should start though). More importanly, the QB's blow on that team and Davis loves big arms, so he has a real shot of becoming the starter again next year. Whether he succeeds there is a totally different story, but given the lack of QB talent on that team that was probably about the best place he could go if he wants a chance to start again in the near future.
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It's very very reasonable that Brohm didn't beat out Rodgers. But for Pete's sake, Matt Flynn??????????
Flynn and Brohm are young...why would it be so hard to understand one guy may have grasped the playbook faster than the other? One of the two would have to start if Rodgers goes down, they deemed Flynn more ready and GB actually loves Flynn...You have to dress the 2 QB's who can step in and play right now...they felt Flynn was ready first, big deal...so a rookie QB didnt get the offense down well enough in his first year...
Besides loving Flynn and of course Rodgers, they still tried to keep him from us...
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Really,ya think so?.Seems like people forgot about those forth quarter comebacks before the Arizona games last season,that showed Trent IS a capable quarterback in the NFL.So will we all be happy when he is cut in the offseason and signed by the Pats and Bill Bellicheat to back up Brady?I think not.
Maybe you shoudl go back and review those games...2 of those wins were because of Mitchell, Lynch and ST, not because of Trent who blew the whole game against 2 of the worst teams in the NFL last year...but go ahead, give Trent the credit for the win and the excuse for when he loses...
This thread is absurd...even people trying to argue that Flacco isnt any better than Trent...give me a break
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Let me proffer another possibility, albeit convoluted and far-fetched...
Maybe, just maybe, it's because he was just signed four weeks ago, on November 19th (2 days after Jauron's firing), and might be trying to learn the names of his new teammates while assimilating the playbook.
I know, I know...that's just too far-fetched - please just forget I suggested it.
hahahhahahahaha...nice post
Its astonishing to me that so many people seem to think that because we are not throwing a QB out there who has never played, is in his second year, and been here 4 weeks that it somehow means its becuase Brohm is not good enough. ESPECIALLY since the new coaching staff said he wont play this year because he wont be ready coming in mid season right when we got him...
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Fair enough, I took your post wrong, my apologies.
I don't think it's that far of a reach to let Brohm start. OC's shorten up playbooks all of the time. I distinctly recall hearing we run a very "vanilla" offense to begin with, so I'm sure it wouldn't take longer than say, 3 weeks, for Brohm to get the gist of things and show what he has.
I'm actually against this, like I already said, and mostly agree with you that it wouldn't put us in the best position to win now, which is what I think we should be doing.
I also agree that this shouldn't show what Brohm's potential is going into next year. I was wrong for saying that.
Its all good...honestly, I would love to see Brohm get some game action, but its probably not going to happen given we are talking about a player who plays the most complicated position in football, is in only his second year, came in here mid season, and has no game experience.
If he is ready to handle a very simple scheme, then hey, I am all for it. I just dont think he will be ready. If he isnt ready, we run the risk of slowing his development or him even getting hurt.
I was all for getting him in there and even hoped so when we first got him. But the more I thought about it the more I realized its probably best we dont unless he is really ready.
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Yet you want to run Edwards out of town because he couldn't automatically walk on the field with less than 1 1/2 years worth of starts and succeed behind a brutally bad OLine and with a brand new, 1 week old O-coordinator?
It is in fact, impossible.
The playbook didnt change, the play calling changed Simon. Love how you keep making excuse after excuse for him, but its not even remotely comparable. Brohm has seen ZERO of our offense up until 3 weeks ago...Trent has seen years in this offense. AVP didnt install a new scheme...he changed the play calling, but they are all plays Trent knows...HUGE difference...but go ahead, keep trying to find some new way to spin things to defend your boy crush...
That was pretty weak attempt, even for you...
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Maybe Brohm is the truth and Green Bay (the franchise willing to force Brett Favre into retirement to make way for another QB...which makes me wonder why you think they wouldn't do the same to Rodgers if Brohm showed potential) is just totally freaking stupid.
What? Rodges is easily a top 10 QB in this league, is young, and arguably top 5 already and only getting better. Yet you think because they forced Brett the flip flop Farve out that they would have forced Rodgers into retirement if Brohm showed "potential"?????? Geezus...the crap flows deep in here...
Only to you would that make sense...So you are saying that becuase GB didnt force Rodgers out after such a great showing in his first year as a starter that Brohm somehow is trash, esecially considering Rodgers is already a top 10 QB and argubaly top 5 in the league.
In fact, only 3 guys certainly ahead of him are Brees, Manning and Brady...outside of that you can argue if he is the 4th best to about the 6th best right now...but by your logic, because GB didnt force him into retirement as you just wrote, that must mean Brohm is a bust...
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Really just want to say that IMO all this talk of Trent vs Fitz is garbage 'cause it's pretty obvious that neither of them can get the job done. Fitz is just about the most inaccurate NFL QB that this observer has ever seen while Trent, well Trent just doesn't seem to have the nerve to get the ball downfield.
We need either Brohm (hello Fewell, at least see what he's got once or twice) of draft one that looks like he might be a good one. AT LEAST TRY!!!!!!
OMG, is the sky falling? We agree on something finally...and more shocking we agree on something that has something to do with Trent...Quick, someone go buy me a lotto ticket...lmao
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people who dont know about football are the ones who think TE should sit behind Fitz. It's a complete joke to think TE is not the best QB we have. I see Trent as a Joe Flacco type with a good team around him. Buffalo has ruined yet another player. JP and Trent are complete opposites. TE has potential. JP was/is a joke
You just call everyone out as not knowing anything about football because they want Trent to sit, then you go and use about the dumbest comparison possible to compare Trent to...and thats Joe Flacco. These two are 100% complete opposites.
First, the physical attributes are night and day. Flacco is a big, durable QB with a HUGE arm. This is the polar opposite of Trent.
Second, Flacco has already proven to be a great leader on that team, something Trent has never ever been able to become.
Third, Flacco plays with a ton of confidence and commands the field...again, something Trent has yet to do.
Fourth, Flacco is younger and less experienced and already significantly better and more accomplished than Trent.
So, if you are going to call people out for not knowing anything about football, then maybe you should try and compare Trent to a QB that might actually resemble him.
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This isnt a terrible move, most agree he could really use the extra year. Personally, I would have come out given he is likely a top 15 pick, most likely top 10 assuming he has a strong combine. Thats a lot to risk on injury...
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This is great news. Please no QB with our first pick.
Yeah, I think you are safe with that one, and I agree.
Now that we have Brohm, I am almost certain we will not go QB in first 2 rounds unless some top QB drops unexpectedly. Brohm is essentially a #1 overall type prospect we got for cheap. If Brohm was in this years draft, most think he would be the top QB taken this year.
We almsot certainly go OL and DL in first 2 rounds...maybe LB somewhere in there too
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So our quarterback of the future is a guy they plucked off another team's practice squad who wasn't even good enough to be the team's backup after two years in the league?
Yeah, sounds about right.
Um, this is his second year, so it isnt "after 2 years in the league" it was after ONE. Secondly, you put the guys on your 53 man roster you feel are ready to step in now. The Packers felt Flynn came along quicker than Brohm but didnt want to lose Brohm so they put him on the PS until he was ready. They even tried to KEEP him when we signed him, but Brohm said no since he knows he will never get a chance to play behind Rodgers.
Why is this so complicated from some people to grasp?
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Any good run starts with a good block. There has never been a good run in the history of the NFL that didn't involve at least one good block.
Jackson is the better back but Lynch is good and we need him.
Dont get me wrong, you are totally correct about good blocking. All I was saying is that Lynch didnt do anything that one of our other RB's wouldnt have done on that play. In other words, that play would have happened if it were Freddie in there or even Oman. The whole side of the field was wide open after Fitz made the block. Moorman could make that play.
The OP made reference to that play as a reason to prop up Lynch as if he made some great play. He truthfuly struggled all day except that play avg 3.1 ypc the rest of the day, but that play wasnt becuase of Lynch's skills, it was a play made possible becuase of an amazing play by Fitz.
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The O-line doesn't have to knock the DL down, just form a pocket and not get shoved up into the QB's face so he can't step into his throw. Top sports analyst speak of having proper passing lanes all the time and I agree with them and respectfully disagree with you, at 6' 1" you cannot see over top of a 6' 3" O-linemen, especially with Defensive players coming in with their hands up and mean while they're throwing your O-line around like rag dolls, it just doesn't work.
Thats not what they mean by passing lanes though. You are talking about a need for the O Line to move guys out of the way so he can see essentially. First off, the DL players are rarely standing straight up as them and the O line and DL have are playing much shorter than their hieght to get leverage, especially in the middle. Speed rushers from the outside and blitzers will tend to play taller as they are trying to run around the blocks, but none the less, the majority of the battle in front of the QB will be played lower than their height which is why QB's who are short like Garcia and Flutie can still have success in the NFL despite being short.
Passing lanes has more to do with angles, zones, etc than holes in the O Line to throw through. And, what about the fact that Fitz can see the wide open recievers despite playing behind an O Line that is worse than what Trent played behind earlier this year with all of our injuries now. If our O Line is worse now due to injuries, how come Fitz can still see the wide open WR's while Trent couldnt behind a better O line?
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After last week, when Marshawn got his longest run of the season, people were still calling for his head on a platter. Today, he went out and pulled off the longest run (47 yards) the Bills had all season. He had 84 yards on only 12 carries.
You need two good running backs on your team in today's NFL. We have them. It is the only position where we are rock solid. Why on earth would we want to get rid of one of them?
Did you watch that play or just look it up in the box score? You do realize that the reason Lynch was able to get that run was becuase of a incredible block by Fitz right. I mean the whole field was wide open. Just about any RB on our team would have had at least that many yards on that play...it wasnt becuase of Lynch.
Not saying Lynch isnt any good, but he managed only 35 yards the rest of the day on 11 more carries for an average of a measly 3.1 yards per carry. So, lets not get ahead of ourselves here. Jackson still had a much better all around day while Lynch had one carry that was a wide open side of the filed thanks to a great block by Fitz that any of our RB's would have gotten. In fact, Freddie probably gets more yards as he is faster. After that, he struggled with a measly 3.1 ypc average the rest of the day...
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We have a birds eye view when watching a game from above and I've commented on this before, you need passing lanes to see and throw through which are real hard to come by when your O-line can't hold the line of scrimmage.
In other words, you have to be standing in TE's shoes at his elevation to know what TE can actually see if you follow me.
TE does not have enough continuity with the offense or his receivers to go by feel and put it up where he knows his receivers should be, so he doesn't take the chance.
This doesnt even make sense man...The QB does NOT need a "passing lane" to see open recievers the way you describe it. You are basically implying that for a QB to see an open wide reciever the O line has to somehow move the DL off to the side so there is nothing in his view. That is true if your QB is 4'11" tall, but other than that there is zero truth to what you just said.
On every single play inside the pocket the QB has to see over the OL and DL battling it out...it happens on every play. Trent is tall enough to see over it. If Trent has to wait until the O line can pancake each player or move them all 5 yards out of the way so he can see down the field then he will not even be able to start on my Flag Football.
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1.) Trent did not regress. He was never any good to begin with.
2.) It does not matter what fans think about who is better. His teammates have no faith in him and do not want him on the field.
Trent is done in Buffalo and the NFL.
Next.
What he said ^^^^^^^^ Agree 100%
Although I wouldnt say he is done in the NFL, but hes done as a starter in the NFL. I seriously doubt we will see Trent anymore this year.
Let me add something...one of things football coaches and players respect the least is fear out on that field. Trent plays tentative and scared which is why he gives up on plays so fast. Thats the one thing Fitzy does LIGHT YEARS better, and thats he doesnt give up on a play and isnt afraid to take a big hit to make a play. This is why Trent has lost this teams and staffs respect and vote of confidence. Fitz isnt very good at QB as he is wildly inconsistent, but he plays with so much more heart than Trent.
If you lose the respect and confidence of your teammates, you are finished with that team. No one has given Trent any support since his benching, no one has voiced for him to start, no one has ever referred to him as a leader on this team. That right there speaks louder than his poor play on the field.
You can blame whatever you want for why he is like this (aka, he always was, it was the staff, it was the O Line, it was consucssions, etc), but the fact remains, this is who he is right now. You can NOT win in the NFL playing the way he plays at this point.
All Fitz is doing is keeping the seat warm for Brohm. Either Trent of Fitz will be gone next year, most likely Trent, and Brohm will be given every opportunity to take the #1 job. The remaining QB will back him up.
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Is he getting first team reps?? Is he getting ANY reps?? You would think with the way Fitz is playing, that were he the answer to our QB woes, he would be. Hey, I hope I'm wrong and Brohm is the second coming of Joe Montana.
My point was you go with the guys that are getting it done now. Actually, you kind of proved my point, so I should thank you. Since you decided to insult me and say my post was stupid, I'll save that Thank You for someone more deserving... Hope the Brohm jersey pans out for you, though...
I didnt say you were stupid, I asked you do you realize how stupid it is to say that because Fitz is starting over Brohm that its some kind of indication that the FO thinks Fitz is a better QB. Rather you realize it or not, you dont just throw a QB out there who doesnt know the offense. Have you ever seen a playbook? Its rediculous to think a 2nd year QB could somehow digest a playbook he has previously never seen and has only had a few weeks to study and be ready to play...in fact, its impossible.
The ONLY reason Brohm isnt playing is because of that...not because of some theory that the staff somehow sees Fitz as a better QB...
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If Brohm were better than Fitz, he'd be starting. Since he's not, I'd assume Brohm is NOT our future.
Sitting T.O. for Hardy is just silly, and nobobdy would ever do that. EVER....
Auditioning guys for 3-4 games does not give insight as to what we'll have for next year. This isn't Baseball. Back ups play in the NFL when there's an injury, when a starter is sucking it up, or when a team wants to rest it's starters for the playoffs, that's it.
What? Let me get this straight...you think because a second year QB who has never seen our offense and only been on this team a few weeks is not starting over Fitz he is NOT our future? Do you even realize how stupid that is? Fitz is READY to play, Brohm is NOT ready since he just got here for crying out loud and has literally ZERO games of experience as a 2nd year guy...thats WHY Fitz starts...
Yeah, lets take our #1 overall pick type talent QB who has had no time, ZERO, to work with our first team unit and hasnt had any time to really learn the offense yet and stick him behind an O Line completely decimated by injuries...this is why you are not a coach or scout...
I hope Brohm gets a shot to play in the couple games IF HE IS READY, but if he is not, then its not worth the risk of thorwing him in there if isnt ready yet...
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I think the signing of Brian Brohm and perry saying that he wouldnt play this year because they wanted him to have a better grasp of the offense says a couple things.
1. We are not gonna spend a high draft pick on a quarterback, and if we do it would probably be a 4th round pick on a guy who was a senior coming into the draft with a lot of experience in the college game which means we can actually focus on our needs like OL, DT,LB,WR
2. The FO believes Brohm can actually start in the nfl. Hopefully they are right for once
I would say we are very unlikely to take a QB any sooner than 3rd round...if that, unless someone slips big time. Brohm is a #1 pick talent that we got for pennies...he hasnt had a chance to play yet. Why on earth would we not give a number pick type talent a chance to play (who is making chump change compared to what a early First round QB would be making) before we waste a high pick on another?
In all honesty, if Brohm was in this years draft he would most likely be the #1 QB taken...and yet we got him for next to nothing.
If the FO is smart, they go OL in round 1, and then go defensive front 7 round 2 (or maybe even OL again if the right player is there)...no need to waste a first and second on a QB now that we have a guy of Brohms potential.
Doesnt mean Brohm will be great, but he has as much if not more upside than just about any QB in this years draft. Not to mention he has a cannon for an arm and was very accurate in college.
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Eagles have a gamebreaker, we have a guy who can't even get on the field...
All I remember hearing is how Jackson was Roscoe Parrish and was too small for us to take...well...
he has the same punt return ability as Parrish, but he can actually play receiver too...
Too bad the Bills chose a 6' 6" bump on a log instead of a guy who is 5' 9" and can play...
Uh...how can you even possibly think Jackson would even have 20 catches right now as a Bill? If TO and Lee were in Philly they would be both top 10 in recieving with McNabb passing...
We dont have a QB that can get the ball to WR's...when we drafted Hardy it was to get size in hopes to free up Lee...turns out, Lee wasnt the problem...it was our QB and still is.
I guarantee you Jackson would have no more than 20 to 25 catches right now on this team...if that. His only contribution may be on special teams, and thats an area we are already potent at.
I would bet serious money that if we drafted Jackson instead of Hardy, you would be on here posting "Why didnt we draft xxxxxxx instead of another small WR named Jackson when we already had too many small WR's"...and thats because Jackson would have done very little compared to what he has done in Philly to this point playing here with these jokes of QB's passing the ball...
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I dont really care if we win this game to be honest, so I would rather see Stevie out there getting some reps to see what he can do.