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I wouldn't have paid that much, but its not surprising when he really is the only legit quality starter available right now in FA. This is what happens when you are desperate at QB though, you pay top dollar for a 35 year old QB coming off a major injury. Cousins is a massive upgrade though, so will be interesting how that team fares now because I think they can win that division is Cousins is back to his old self quickly. They got the weapons and they had an underrated defense as it is too.

I love Bowers as a prospect, sure top 10 guy in this draft, I just think there is no realistic way he ever falls to us, but you never know. So to play your game on the what if he surprises and does, I still say we trade back because I think Beane could get back a premium on someone wanting to move up and get him at that point. Now as far as what I think will happen...I cant see anyway he would get past Cincy at 18 and if he somehow did, then several of the teams between Bengals and us would also have a high chance to grab him or someone will trade up like say a KC to grab him as an heir apparent to Kelce who is a key position in their offense and probably in the last year there. He is without a doubt a top 10 prospect overall, just depends on how a team values the TE position.

Lol...sorry, try again, that isn't Bingo Bongo. You forgot to subtract the team that traded for Higgins from the teams that would have taken a WR before the trade. So +1 teams by adding Cincy, but -1 team that traded for Higgins. 1 - 1 = 0. No change in number of teams ahead of us looking for a WR potentially in the first round. So like I said, its a wash. Only 4 teams draft after us, and 0% chance Cincy trades Higgins to rivals KC or Balt, and 0% chance Niners trade for him, and Detroit highly unlikely to make a big trade on offense when their defense needs so much help and are a favorite to trade for Sneed. If you still don't understand that, then I am not sure what else to tell you.

Watch out for what? There is 0% chance Cincy trades Higgins to KC, the team directly in their way for the SB annually for the next 5-10 years. Same for Baltimore in their own division.

Either way its good for us, helps keep the WR market from going over the top. Surprisingly, its the RB market that is going a little whacko right now with these $8M a year deals out the gate and talk over a $12M+ deal for Saquan possibly in Philly.

Did you actually read my post? I literally said I thought what he got is his value. I never at all said I valued him higher, I said I expected some foolish team to over pay him if he went this early day 1. The same team that signed him just recently grossly overpaid for both Christian Kirk and Zay Jones in the same offseason like 2 years ago.

While I think this is a fair deal and about what he is worth, I thought because all the other top tier FA's stayed put leaving only Ridley at the top of the FA WR list it would inflate his contract above $16M and maybe as high as $20M as there are always teams who grossly over pay out the gate and they have the higher than expected cap. I mean Zay Jones got a bigger deal than this having done a lot less than Gabe, Christian Kirk got even more at $20M per. Maybe Jags learned their lesson since they did both those over pays to stay within reason on this one. So this is good news for us as it keeps the other guys a little further down the list that the Bills might have interest in costs down now that Davis, seen as the 2nd or 3rd best FA WR coming into today, has signed a reasonable deal.

Nice, this is a downgrade from Ridley, so at least we don't have to worry about them being "better" and it takes one team who was heavily seen as a candidate to go WR ahead of us now off the board. I do wish him luck though, liked Gabe a lot even though his game and limitations frustrated me many times and I felt we needed to go in another direction. Just hope he does one of those 0 catch games whenever we play him that he is known for.

Cnat find anyone else reporting this, so call me skeptical it’s real until we see more buzz on this

Which is why he won’t be there cuz if he starts to slide someone else well before us will trade down with someone going up to get him. He’s a top 10 player in this draft.

Bengals have a lot of needs, I doubt they take a WR round 1 if they don’t trade Higgins before the draft.

And the team that traded for Higgins now won’t. What part of it being a wash is confusing about that?

Only if they trade him, and if they do it takes another WR needy team off the board round 1. So it’s at worst a wash for us with the possibility Bengals (who have many needs) could wait to take a WR round 2 with such a deep draft.

Not Bingo though. People get this wrong all the time…the team trading for him was probably a team that was going to draft a WR if they are making a big trade for Higgins, so no it does not change how many WRs could go before our pick unless it’s a team that drafts after us which are teams that either won’t be trading for him or Cincy would never trade him to. So it’s a wash and doesn’t impact how many WRs go ahead of us.

You realize Matt Ryan was a top 5 QB before Shannahan and after. In fact, 2 sesason after Shannahan left, Ryan put up nearly an identical season to his MVP season. The amount of over exaggeration Shannahan gets about Matt Ryan is insane. In fact, the fact that Shannahan is even considered a QB guru in the first place is a joke. The first QB he has ever developed in his career is Purdy. Kubiak found and developed Schaub who was as good after Shannahan left. He was only with Ryan 2 seasons in his prime who put up similar seasons without Shannahan...he was fired in Washington and a disaster in Cle before Atlanta. In SF Jimmy G was the same stiff he was when he left as when he got there. None of the other QB's panned out and he blew 3 first round picks on a QB he couldn't even develop into a backup to a 7th round QB.

As I said in another thread, the only team in the entire NFL that made sense for Wilson from a potential starters perspective was the Steelers. Between the defense and run game, they don't need the QB to carry the team, they just need them not to totally suck and they are a playoff team. If the QB can be solid, they could challenge to win their division. If the QB can be pretty good, they could be a threat in the AFC. But, I wasn't sold that the Steelers would be interested froma locker room fit stand point. But at a million dollars, thats the bargain of a lifetime even for a backup QB so it makes sense as they really are free rolling on this because if he sucks they have nothing vested and can bench or even cut him. And for Wilson, gives him a chance to redeem his image on a one year prove it deal and try and secure his spot in Pitt long term or somewhere else next offseason.

I would be pretty surprised if they got through this offseason without restructuring Josh, but if Beane finds a way to pull that off then wow, dude is on a whole other level of wizardry.

Everyone knows we are drafting a WR early and no one is opposed to it, not even Beane. Pretty universal sentiment with Diggs being 31

My answers: OTHER - Diggs drop in play has a lot of factors built into it. One, Dorsey's offense was unimaginative and predictable. And because of that, we didn't run the ball and we had an over reliance on Diggs and it stalled the offense. Once Brady took over, he wasn't able to install his own offense, but had to work more with what was here and make tweaks to try and get some sort of consistency in our ability to extend drives and score. That focus became 2 fold...an increase in the run game as we saw Cook breakout, and also on short passes as an extension of the run game. Diggs was still used down field, but not to the degree it had been. In addition, you had Josh was playing with an injury to his shoulder the whole back half of the season and Josh said he literally had to change how he delivered the ball to manage that issue and the discomfort. What we saw is Josh not as sharp downfield as he normally is, this prevented Allen and Diggs downfield connection from being as sharp as it was and we saw Diggs plenty of times torch his defender and get open and Allen just couldn't connect. And if you go back and watch the second half of the season, you will see Diggs still capable of beating the defenders, but between being used differently, the change at OC, and Allens injury, it just really impacted everything. And I think we saw Diggs struggle with that a little bit too where we saw a few more drops because he just wasn't in the same rhythm as before and maybe was looking upfield for YAC more before the ball got there and just didn't bring in some balls. NOT UPSET BECAUSE THEY SHOULD GO BPA - Anyone who thinks its WR or nothing at 28 would make a terrible GM. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES should they ever lock into ONE position and take a LESSER prospect over more talented players. This team has a lot of needs, and WR isn't even the top need. It is maybe the top priority, but not our biggest hole in a draft that is both rich and deep at WR. Lets be clean, I also WANT a WR like many others in the first, but once the big 3 are gone, if there is a run on WR's the last thing I want them doing is reaching for a 2nd round WR over say one of the better prospects in the draft at another position. Here is the reality...After the big 3, it is possible only Thomas has a first round grade on Beanes board, maybe Mitchell too although he has some question marks about why his stats don't match his elite traits. So I think he could move up for Thomas (maybe Mitchell), but if both are gone, I think Beane might either take another position or move back some and target someone like Coleman or McConkey while picking up an extra 3rd or something. The best thing to happen to Beane and the Bills was Worthy running a 4.22 and moving his potential draft slot from the 2nd round into maybe the first round. No way Beane is looking at this guy for Buffalo, so hopefully he helps push Thomas down closer to us to strike and go up and get, especially now that we just got awarded a 4th round comp pick adding yet another pick to our arsenal to help move around the draft.

The reason he is barely talked about here is because there is almost no chance he will be a Buffalo Bill. Ridley will be the highest paid WR in Free Agency as he is the top WR by a decent margin left on the market with the other guys staying put. And because of that, he is going to get over paid quite a bit. Good WR, but he is gonna get paid above his level because he hit the lottery when all the other guys stayed with their teams and then the cap was much bigger than expected.

I think DJ Chark is more realistic than Mooney from a cost perspective. Outside the organization, the opinion on Diggs and him being a WR1 or not seems to be divided. But, if I had to bet money, I would bet that Beane and Coaches on the inside still do believe in Diggs as a WR1, at least for this next season. They have been pretty emphatic about that belief too and Beane is not someone I have known to say things he doesn't believe. While I would be fine adding Mooney, like I mention above, I just think he is going to cost more than I think Beane will want to pay. With a lot of the top tier WR's guys off the market now it is going to boost his value in FA and I think he is a safe bet to get double digits like $10M - $14M per, especially since he has that one 80+ catch season on his resume while being saddled with bad QB play his whole career. Someone is gonna overpay based on believing he can consistently be that 70-90 catch guy in a better situation. I think someone like Curtis Samuel, DJ Chark, maybe Noah Brown (depends on what his market is as he could also surprise on what he gets) is probably more realistic targets. Could be wrong, maybe the cap room from the higher than expected cap sways him to spend a little more in FA at say WR, but I just think Beane is seeing all those picks in the draft and knowing he can infuse some talent and youth there at WR and maybe spends more on filling some of the other holes on D which right now is kind of like swiss cheese it has so many holes and lacks depth. On offense you still got Diggs, Shakir, Kincaid, and Knox plus Cook. So rookies don't need to relied on as heavy as say rookies that would need to start right away on defense. So I just think Beane is gonna focus more on defense with what cap space we have to try and keep from having to rely on too many rookie starters this season.

Not sure what all the confusion is, seems pretty clear there is an extension in bound, and was mostly expected to be part of the plan to get under the cap.

I think some of you need to come to the realization there is almost no chance Beane trades for a WR. Not only do they cost more, but he isn’t likely giving up assets in one of the richest WR drafts in NFL history where we have 11 picks for a more expensive vet.

Thank god the “trade for Jeudy” stuff can stop. Why anyone wanted to trade for a WR with lazy routes, bad hands, weak mental game, and doesn’t block was beyond me. Classic case of people still living in the past off his pre-draft hype and not accepting he didn’t live up to it in the NFL and is nothing more than a mediocre WR. I was also 100% confident there was 0% chance Beane would foolishly trade for this guy.

Hahaha this made LOL…nice work