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  1. Just an observation from last night and a related one from last week...

     

    Mark Sanchez appears to be the biggest douche on two feet. His QB coach (Mark Cavanaugh) was giving him a something of a pep talk and Sanchez couldn't even look at him while he was talking. He was rearranging the crap in his duffle bag and couldn't have paid less attention to his coach. Cavanaugh was telling him how to get past his mistakes...basically pick your head up, say f it, and move on. But the Sanchize couldn't be bothered with paying attention as he was dealing with the more important task of sorting his socks and orange tic tacs.

     

    This comes on the heals of last weeks unconfortable mocking of Joe Namath. Namath was at a team meeting and was explaining to Mark how to hold your hands to recieve the snap to reduce fumbles. Mark again couldn't look at the man and was snickering under his breath. Regardless of what anyone thinks of Namath, this little punk couldn't give the man a few minutes of respect?

     

    I'm sure Jets fans everywhere are so happy that Mark feels he knows all there is to know about being a star NFL QB. I shall rejoice every time this arrogant dope tosses a pick, gets sacked, and walks off the field with his heading hanging. :thumbsup:

     

    Wow, talk about a haterade interpretation of that scene. Clearly you want to find any thing you can to hate him, which is fine, but lets be a little more realistic about that sequence. Mark was not ignoring him to be a douche, he was clearly very frustrated with himself and his play at that moment and even referenced that he needs to stop sucking. It was at no point a show of disrespect to his coach. He was simply down on himself and the coach was trying to get through that and pick him up.

     

    The kid clearly has shown to be a humble kid on this team while carry a huge weight on his shoulders as many believe that their SB bid hinges on his improvement. I love how people hate on him for posing for GQ too when there isnt a guy on this board tha would say no if GQ called and asked you to be in their magazine. He is a high profile athlete on a high profile team...magazines and companies are going to want him in their spreads and ads.

  2. Evans contract is quite affordable right now. This year he gets $5.4 mil, but 2011 and 2012 he gets $3.025 mil (each year). Quite reasonable for a guy with his talent.

     

    Yup, and not to mention that the rediculous bashing of Evans on this board is not a reflection of how he is viewed across the league. If he was made available there would be a lot of of interest as he is considered a major talent who is suffering from atrocious QB play and a awful scheme the last few seasons.

  3. Your argument (on this narrow point at least) still makes no sense. Johnson beat the coverage, and apparently Edwards' pass did not allow the cornerback to catch up to him. Edwards still got the ball out there (in fact, TOO FAR out there) no matter how much "air he put under the ball."

     

    Either he didn't put too much air under the ball or maybe putting too much air under the ball is not a problem.

     

    The "he puts too much air under the ball" is, in other words, as BS argument. You'd be better off just saying Edwards doesn't see open receivers, or misses them when he does see them.

     

    Frankly, all this QB back and forth on the board makes me ill. There' absolutely nothing to be said that hasn't been said three hundred times over.

     

    All I'm hoping to see is that one of the QBs seizes the starting job clearly and unequivocally. I don't care which one, and I'm not prepared to say which it ought to be.

     

    I hear what you are saying, but the fact remains Trent consistently puts too much air on the ball which allows the corner more time to make a play. Does that mean every throw with air on it is short or the DB will get to the ball? No. At the same time though, just because a ball has too much air on it does not mean it will always be short. You can still under throw, over throw, or hit a reciever in perfect stride on a pass with too much air on it, just depends on when you timed the throw and how hard you threw it.

     

    Overall, putting that much air on a ball is a terrible way to pass in the NFL with the speed of defenses and will work against you more than it will work for you. Its also the hardest way to throw it accurately.

     

    Either way, this is a silly point to be arguing as from what I gather we dont really have differing opinnions on Trents short comings.

  4. Excuses, excuses, excuses. NOBODY HIDES A PLAYER ONE YEAR REMOVED FROM THE 2ND ROUND OF THE NFL DRAFT ON A PRACTICE SQUAD BY WAIVING HIM 1st!!!!!! If Brohm had ANY potential someone would have picked the guy off of waivers, a few extra $ would not have stopped them if he had anything. By the end of preseason when CHAN GAILEY writes him off you'll realize how moronic your manlove for Brohm is.

    I sure hope the Bills don't pick up Timmy Chang off some sandlot. His college stats will have the Brohm guys drooling.

     

    The funny thing about your ranting posts are that you call all these people Brohm lovers, manlove for Brohm, etc as if anyone is making any claims to his greatness. You and a couple other brash posters are the only ones making any proclamations about the kid and saying he is a bust before he gets a chance to show it on the field.

     

    The NFL has countless stories of players who started slow in the NFL and developed into good to great players, including the reigning SB MVP Drew Brees. Brohm as a rookie didnt adjust quick enough to the speed of the NFL...so what, he was a ROOKIE. By his 2nd season Flynn was entrenched as the backup (and your opinnion absoultely does not matter about Flynn as GB, who sees him first hand daily, is really high on him) and GB chose not to carry 3 QB's. They gambled by putting him on the PS and LOST as we claimed him. They tried to save it, but in the end he chose us because we represented opportunity as GB had Rodgers entrenched as the guy of the future.

     

    Its pretty stupid to make your mind up about a player before he has even had a chance to go out and show what he can do. Maybe he ends up stinking it up and being a bust, maybe he excels...no one knows, but to claim one or the other now is pretty foolish. A slow start for a rookie QB is not at all an indicator of what he can do with some develoment.

  5. Aren't these things contradictory? He puts too much air under his deep passes so the DB catches up to the receiver, but he overthrew Johnson on a deep pass?

     

    First, nobody is going to throw every single pass the exact same way. Second, you can still have a ton of air on a deep pass and still over throw a WR like he did Stevie...

  6. No year 1 is not a bust, ive said it on other threads. Obviously he performed so poorly at GB that he was relegated to the practice squad.... not something you do with someone with obvious talent. If GB thought he was just learning they wouldve let him ride it out a la peyton manning etc.

     

    They didnt.

     

    He hasnt been able to overshadow TE ( who i dont like) even though theyve had the same amount of time learning the plays and had equal reps in OTA.

     

    Just watch, thurs night he wont show much (hard for any QB) and you will all be singing a different tune.

     

    I am not saying he is going to be any good, all I want is to he him get a shot as he still has potential where the others dont. You and a few others are the ones making proclamations about a QB who has just one start under impossible circumstances in his first 2 seasons.

  7. First of all it's about the game not the money. Evans is open and that's with being double teamed constantly. Him and TO had similar numbers last year. Why is it that neither had a big year? They were never open? Whatever, dude. We need the OL to block, a QB to throw the ball and coaches to call the right plays. When Bledsoe was in B-Lo Evans didn't have any trouble getting open did he?

     

    Funny how people forget that...thats how bad Trent, JP and Fitz have been...they dont just kill our seasons, they kill the careers of those around them.

  8. Why would they trade us for a RB when the new backup to Gore just went off for 100 yards on 21 carries and a TD?

     

    News: Dixon ran 21 times for 100 yards with a touchdown and caught three passes for 22 yards in Sunday's preseason opener against the Colts.

    Spin: Starter Frank Gore didn't record a carry in the game, as the 49ers gave Dixon, their new presumed No. 2 back (in the wake of Glen Coffee's retirement), a good look in game action. Meanwhile, Michael Robinson, who is also in the team's backup RB mix, carried five times for 13 yards, with a TD and a fumble.

     

    And they signed Brian Westbrook...so I dont think they will trading for one of our guys...

  9. http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2010/08/17/brohms-strengths/

     

    Brohm’s strengths

    Chris Brown

    Posted August 17, 2010 – 6:33 am

    Tags: 2010 preseason, Brian Brohm

    Head coach Chan Gailey was asked to outline Brian Brohm’s strengths. Here was his response.

     

    “He’s very smart. He know where to go with the football. He’s got good velocity on the ball. He just needs to work on continual accuracy,” said Gailey. ”That’s really been his only issue. He’s got good intelligence for football and understands defenses, which is part of playing quarterback, you’ve got to understand defense.”

     

    Brohm will be the second quarterback in Thursday night in Toronto when the Bills face the Colts. Kickoff is set for 7:30 pm.

     

     

    What seems strange is that Brohm's accuracy has been lauded by media covering OTAs and camp thus far - so BROHM - WIN THIS JOB!! If that's his only issue, then why isn't he starting!?! The other two have accuracy issues and several other issues each!!! If he has the fewest issues...then let's start and develop him!! WTF!!

     

    What is going on here is that they chose to give Trent (the vet) the first chance to win this job because he played well enough in the OTA's to earn that shot. The other QB's are right on his heels though, but given Trents experience as a starter and the hopes the new regime could correct a lot of his flaws, they decided to give him first crack.

     

    I firmly believe Fitz was given the go ahead in the first preseason game also because he earned that with a winning record last year and his experience. I also think they wanted our team to go out and get some work in before we threw our least experience QB in and that played a big part into the decision as well to sit Brohm last week and then letting him have it this week.

     

    I dont think Trent should or will be our starter, but at the same time I understand he should get one more shot in the 2nd week as you cant grade a QB on the first preseason game of the year after installing a brand new offense and missing 3 starters on the O Line. I personally dont think he is capable of being a good NFL starter so I expect very little from him again this week, but I do understand why he is getting a shot to start this coming Thurs. I also would not be surprised to see Trent pullled quicker than he was last week if he is struggling to get Brohm in sooner and in with some of our starters.

     

    If Trent sucks again this week and Brohm shows promise, then I think Brohm will start the 3rd preseason game to see what he does with the starters with Fitz and Trent getting some time behind him and Brown likely not playing much or at all.

  10. Actually TE has been the most accurate in practice going long to Lee Evans

     

    On plays where Lee has a huge gap between him and the defender and Trent doesnt have to worry about getting hit. For the last time, PRACTICE doesnt matter if you are not capable of doing it in a game...W/L records, yardage totals, TD's, etc dont get tallied from practice.

     

    Trent gives up on plays too early for deep routes to develop in games...he doesnt have the vision to get the ball down field in games (probably because he panics to fast), and he is not very accurate on the deep ball in games (see the mile he over threw Steve Johnson on Friday who was wide open). And lets not forget how much air he puts on his deep ball allowing DB's to close in on the WR.

     

    UNTIL he can start doing this in games, I dont want to hear about practice anymore like we have the last 2 years.

  11. Trent is only effective if everything is just right. The slightest bit of adversity and he folds like a tent. Our line is bad, but a decent QB would still find a way to be effecitive. Fitzy finds a way to go downfield under a rush, he just has no accuracy. At this point if we are going to suck, let's suck with Brohm or Levi, both of whom have upside. Trent and Fitz do not.

     

    ^^^WHAT HE SAID^^^

  12. I wouldn't worry about things said by a couple of overpaid blacks that can barely read or write. Ditka lucked out with the Bears back in the day. Look what he did with the Aints when he ran them. He's about a sausage & a half away from a massive coronary anyhow! Tom Jackson never won anything either, & has fallen into obscurity since ESPN changed the format of their NFL programmming

     

    Joy another douche newbie poster...

     

    These are the kinds of posts that should get people banned...

  13. Every notice how that coincides with not getting the proper protection TE needs to stand in there and make the throws.

     

    Funny how that works...

     

    Hate to break it to you but he had zero pressure on that checkdown. Lynch ran a short route and Trent checked down so fast that he hit lynch in full stride in his route which was before our WRs could even finish running their routes into first down territory...

     

    He is bad even when he has time...just curious, whats your reason for him not executing on those plays?

     

    If Trent was effective when he had time and struggled when under pressure, you would have a leg to stand on. But Trent is not effective when the O Line holds up on a play and gives him time...in fact, he still very often checks down and quickly on the play. I have never seen a QB (a starting QB at least) give up on a play as quickly as he does.

  14. Trent has been hitting Evans deep in practice on a regular basis (again today for 45 yards), hopefully it will start transferring over to game day.

     

    I agree, hitting Johnson deep would have changed everyone's outlook,

     

    You mean in practice where guys aren't going to hit him? Funny how he always seem to hit deeper balls and stands in the pocket in practice every year then goes out into the games and checks down on 3rd and 13 for a 3 yard pass to Lynch even when there was no QB pressure on that play...

     

    So talk to me when Trent starts throwing medium to deep passes in games and doing so accurately

  15. I was just watching sportscenter before the monday night football pregame show started and mike ditka, keyshawn johnson, cris carter, and tom jackson just completely mocked the bills. They were talking about how the giants are in a much tougher division than the jets are. I dont remember the exact words so im going from what i remember... Ditka goes "the giants have to face the redskins, eagles, and cowboys and all the jets have to deal with is the patriots and maybe the dolphins, and then ditka goes "forget about buffalo, they never win in buffalo" and someone else said "yeah they dont have to ever worry about the bills." And the whole crew just started dying, laughing hysterical saying "hah the bills, hah." I wanted to jump threw the screen and beat them all. I hope to god we shock the world and then ill send in a nice letter to that crew and then see what they have to say.

     

    What did you expect them to say? Watch out for Trent Edwards and them Bills? Did you watch the game Friday? We were already expected to be bad and then went out and played even worse than that.

     

    I am still optimistic about this team and the direction it is going, but come on, you cant get your panties in a wad every time someone points out that we stink when thats all we have done the last few years and in our only preseason game. Every person should pick us to finish last at this point until we can PROVE otherwise on the field.

  16. From Wiki:

     

    Brennan appeared in his first NFL exhibition game in the 2008 Hall of Fame Game against the Indianapolis Colts on August 3. He was impressive in his debut completing 9-of-10 passes for 123 yards and 2 touchdowns for a 157.5 passer rating in the Redskins' victory.[20] His success continued two weeks later against the New York Jets when he completed 4-of-5 passes for 79 yards and scored the game winning touchdown on a 33-yard pass to Jason Goode.[21]

     

    Brennan led all 2008 NFL rookies in touchdown passes, passing yards and quarterback rating through the preseason .[22] He finished the 2008 preseason with a strong performance, going 36-for-53, for 411 yards and three touchdowns and with no interceptions. For the preseason, Brennan's completion percentage was 67.9% and his quarterback rating was 109.9. He also carried the ball twice for 11 yards.

     

    From NFL.com:

     

    2008 Preseason Games Passing Rushing Fumbles

     

    WK Game Date Opp Result G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Sck SckY Rate Att Yds Avg TD FUM Lost

     

    0 08/03 IND W 30-16 1 0 9 10 90.0 123 12.3 2 0 1 1 157.5 -- -- -- -- -- --

    1 08/09 BUF W 17-14 1 0 4 8 50.0 37 4.6 0 0 1 9 63.0 -- -- -- -- -- --

    2 08/16 @ NYJ W 13-10 1 0 4 5 80.0 79 15.8 1 0 2 15 158.3 -- -- -- -- -- --

    3 08/23 @ CAR L 3-47 1 0 6 12 50.0 53 4.4 0 0 0 0 62.2 -- -- -- -- -- --

    4 08/28 JAC L 3-24 1 0 13 18 72.2 119 6.6 0 0 4 21 89.8 2 11 5.5 0 1 0

    TOTAL 5 0 36 53 67.9 411 7.8 3 0 8 46 109.9 2 11 5.5 0 1 0

     

    2009 Preseason Games Passing Rushing Fumbles

     

    WK Game Date Opp Result G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Sck SckY Rate Att Yds Avg TD FUM Lost

     

    1 08/13 @ BAL L 0-23 1 0 4 12 33.3 43 3.6 0 1 3 11 10.1 3 13 4.3 0 -- --

    2 08/22 PIT W 17-13 1 0 3 5 60.0 42 8.4 0 1 0 0 47.5 2 -2 -1.0 0 -- --

    3 08/28 NE L 24-27 1 0 6 12 50.0 81 6.8 1 1 4 22 64.9 1 2 2.0 0 -- --

    4 09/03 @ JAC L 17-24 1 0 10 14 71.4 83 5.9 0 0 0 0 86.3 -- -- -- -- -- --

    TOTAL 4 0 23 43 53.5 249 5.8 1 3 7 33 49.5 6 13 2.2 0 0 0

     

     

    Brohm, from NFL.com:

    2009 Preseason Games Passing Rushing Fumbles

     

    WK Game Date Opp Result G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Sck SckY Rate Att Yds Avg TD FUM Lost

     

    1 08/15 CLE W 17-0 1 0 3 10 30.0 18 1.8 0 2 1 3 0.0 2 -2 -1.0 0 -- --

    2 08/22 BUF W 31-21 1 0 12 19 63.2 83 4.4 0 1 0 0 51.0 2 4 2.0 0 -- --

    3 08/28 @ ARI W 44-37 1 0 4 5 80.0 45 9.0 0 0 2 18 104.2 1 -1 -1.0 0 -- --

    4 09/03 @ TEN L 13-27 1 0 20 28 71.4 154 5.5 0 0 2 8 84.5 1 5 5.0 0 -- --

    TOTAL 4 0 39 62 62.9 300 4.8 0 3 5 29 54.5 6 6 1.0 0 0 0

     

    2008 Preseason Games Passing Rushing Fumbles

     

    WK Game Date Opp Result G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Sck SckY Rate Att Yds Avg TD FUM Lost

     

    1 08/11 CIN L 17-20 1 0 8 17 47.1 70 4.1 0 1 0 0 33.9 -- -- -- -- -- --

    2 08/16 @ SF L 6-34 1 0 4 9 44.4 33 3.7 0 0 0 0 54.4 2 1 0.5 0 1 1

    3 08/22 @ DEN W 27-24 1 0 0 4 0.0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 39.6 -- -- -- -- -- --

    4 08/28 TEN L 21-23 1 0 7 12 58.3 52 4.3 0 0 4 33 68.8 1 0 0.0 0 3 1

    TOTAL 4 0 19 42 45.2 155 3.7 0 1 4 33 45.2 3 1 0.3 0 4 2

     

    16 12/27 @ ATL L 3-31 1 1 17 29 58.6 146 5.0 0 2 2 8 43.2 -- -- -- -- -- --

     

     

    Each has played in nine games (all but one in the preseason). Through nine games, Brohm has, you guessed it, zero touchdowns to go along with six picks. Brennan has four TD's with only three picks. If you can't see the difference there, then I can't help you. If you actually watched any of the games these two have played, you'd notice the difference as well. Also, Brennan was unable to beat out Jason Campbell and Todd Collins (a solid veteran), and had no chance at unseating future HoF'er McNabb especially after getting hurt; Brohm got beat out by Matt Flynn (who, contrary to popular opinion around here, really isn't very good), and can't climb our pathetic depth chart.

     

    Please also tell me, oh great one, what the hell the player's pre-draft status several years ago has to do with their abilities now.

     

    So, what you are saying is that Colt has done nothing as well in the NFL. I mean you are propping up 2 of his PRESEASON games where he faced 3rd and 4th stringers as somehow an indication that he has accomplished more in the NFL. Also, that was 2008 and his 2009 preseason not nearly as productive. He cant catch on as a 3rd string QB and Brohm is competing for a #1 job.

     

    I dont have anything against Colt at all, just find it funny how you hate Brohm yet support Colt (who is about to be cut by his second team) all because he had 2 games where he did well in PRESEASON against a bunch of players who are largely not playing in the NFL now or so buried on the depth chart that they never see the field. And you bash Flynn while ignoring the fact that, regardless of your opinnion of him, GB likes him a lot. Then prop up Todd Collins who wasnt even an average QB in this league to validate Colt not beating him out.

     

    Im not saying Brohm is this or that...not even saying he will be better than Colt or vice versa by the time their careers are done. I have no idea if Brohm will do well or not, I just want to see him on the field before I decide he is this or that.

     

    I just find it puzzling how you bash repeatedly on Brohm because he was cut in GB yet dont hold that against Colt who was also cut by the team that drafted him (and looks to be about to be cut again). McNabb is no spring chicken either and they will need a QB of the future in 2 to 3 years, so if they beleived Colt could be that guy they would not have cut him.

  17. Colt Brennan is 25 and is two years removed from the draft. He's somebody I liked coming out of college and liked even more when he dominated in the HoF game (albeit against backups). He's shown more in his career than Brian Brohm and is still very young. How is he a "flavor of the week"? This isn't a patch until we can draft, this is someone I would pursue as a long-term answer at the position.

     

    Please describe to me how he has shown much more than Brohm? Brohm was going to be a top 5 pick, maybe even the #1 pick his Jr. year...Colt was never at any point considered a first round pick. Brohm had a much higher draft grade coming out of college. Neither has done anything nor had the chance to do anythin in the NFL during their 2 year run in the NFL. Both have been cut by the teams that drafted them. Brohm is competing for a starting spot in the NFL while Brennan is tyring to catch on as a 3rd string QB somewhere.

     

    So, I ask again and sincerly, please explain how you can say Colt has "shown more in his career" than Brohm?

     

    I find it puzzling that you are on the Colt band wagon and then bash Brohm when they have had almost the same career thus far in the NFL except Brohm had a much higher draft grade, has more potential, played against much higher competition in college, played in a pro system in college vs Colt playing in the run and shoot, is currently competing for a starting job where Colt cant even catch on as a 3rd stringer, and has been working in our new system all off season.

  18. actually its a very intelligent question.

     

    injuries to someone give opportunites to others. that being said, i think he will keep the #1 if he has that much of an impact.

     

    This will be a run first team come week 1 and will feature a lot of throws to the RB's too, so its not unreasonable to think he can put up those numbers if he is the real deal, which I think he is.

  19. In a couple of weeks the only supporters Brohm will have left are his relatives. The guy brings nothing to the table that is any better than what we have. You'll see. If you really want to jump on someone's bandwagon, it might as well be Levi Brown's, because he's got a lot more "upside" than Brohm. It's not just the Atlanta game, it's the reports out of camp that Brohm has shown realtively poor arm strength and is weak or accuracy and the fact that he is floating between 2nd & 4th on the depth chart, with #3 already locked up by Brown. All the Brohm fantasies will come to a screeching halt after he playes in 1 or 2 exhibition games & you see why GB cut him last summer. He doesn't belong in the NFL & in 2 weeks it will be quite evident.

    What I don't understand is why the Brohm fans think the Bills can do something no other NFL team has done in the modern era-get something out of a high round QB who gets cut for reasons other than the salary cap. Look it up, the guys who other teams steal are late round under the radar players. You don't steal 2nd round QB busts and get production out of them. Remember you're taking about a John Guy acquisition. It's as if you bought a lottery ticket & think you'll be a millionaire tomorrow-It isn't happening!

     

    I dont know where you are getting your reports, but the ones being posted on buffalobills.com and by many posters on this board all say the Brohm has consistently thrown the cleanest passes and prettiest passes. Does he have it all put together yet? Of course not, he also has no experience yet and is still learning the system and trying to form timing with his WR's just like the other 3 QB's.

     

    No one is claiming he will be great, in fact, you and some others are the only ones making proclamations about how he will play. We just want to see him on the field get a chance to live up to his potential coming out of the draft rather than watch 2 guys with no potential in Trent and Fitz go out and stink up.

     

    Cant say anything good or bad about Levi really either other than he looked pretty raw and bad in the preseason game. I wont hold that against him though as it was his first NFL game action. I love though how you give Brown the benefit of the doubt who was a 7th round draft pick, but you dont give it to Brohm until he shows otherwise on the field even though he barely has any more experience than Brown.

  20. We know Fred wont play until at least week 1 maybe longer. Lynch is still unknown, but if its a bad ankle injury he may not be ready to go week 1 either.

     

    So, if thats the case and Spiller starts say weeks 1 and 2 and puts up 300 + combined yards rushing and recieving with a couple of TD's or more, does he hold onto that #1 spot?

     

    I like Fred, and even think Lynch still can be a very good RB in this league...but what do you do if they dont start weeks 1 and 2 if Spiller has big games starting in their place and lives up to his explosive billing?

     

    No, I am not calling for Spiller to start or anything like that, just curious to see how this all plays out if Fred and Lynch arent ready to go week 1.

  21. Yup. He didn't have a great game, but he showed flashes of why he was drafted. He is VERY quick. Give the guy more PT in the preseason and see if he starts to figure it out. I was a bit encouraged by his performance tonight.

     

    Yeah, give the kid a chance to play and develop some moves from his new position that utilize his strengths. Derrick Thomas wasn't mauling people either and used his speed and finesse to get to the QB...and our fan base would trade their right arm for a Derrick Thomas right now...

     

    Ultimately he may be a bust, average player, or great player...too early to tell when he has had very little playing time on the field and is being moved to a position better suited for his skill set.

  22. I sort of agree with you but all i'm saying is people keep talking about him as if he has lit it up somewhere else before he came to the bills and he has not.

     

    What has any unproven young QB or rookie done before he has played more than 1 game?

  23. Here's a sampling of games from the 2008 season of Trent:

     

    Wk Opp CompAtt Pct Yds Avg TD INT Sack Rate W/L

    1 SEA 19 30 63 215 7.2 1 0 1 96 W

    2 JAC 20 25 80 239 9.6 1 0 3 120 W

    3 OAK 24 39 62 279 7.2 1 1 3 81 W

    4 STL 15 25 60 197 7.9 1 1 4 82 W

    7 SD 25 30 83 261 8.7 1 0 0 114 W

    8 MIA 21 35 60 227 6.5 0 1 2 67 L

    9 NYJ 24 35 69 289 8.3 1 2 5 79 L

    12 KC 24 32 75 279 8.5 2 0 0 121 W

    16 DEN 17 25 68 193 7.7 1 0 1 104 W

    2008 245 374 65.5 2699 7.2 11 10 23 85

     

    (sorry copy/paste is so bad from Mac to TSW)

     

    This isn't horrible, and in my opinion it's pretty good. So what happened??

     

    A. Bad teams made him look good

    B. Worse OL

    C. Concussion

    D. Trent's confidence

    E. DJ and Co made him worse?

    F. Worse supporting cast?

     

    I don't know the answer, I'm looking for them.

     

    9 TD's in 9 games...doesnt seem all that different to me...

  24. I'm usually a little more patient, but after watching the Bills game as well as other highlights, I couldn't help myself. Taking Troup, a guy who doesn't start, instead of Clausen, a guy who could start for us this year was a big blunder. And this is not a hindsight or BS revisionist take on the draft. I like many other Bills fan around the country was screaming at the tv during the draft when the Bills drafted Troup (a guy not projected to go in the top 3 rounds) over JC.

     

    I understand this team has a ton of holes (arguably even more before the 2010 draft) and that next year is supposed to be an even better year for QBs (2010 was given such a label too at this time last year) but grabbing Clausen at worse gives you a decent QB who could develop into something special, but at the least provides stop gap play at Qb in 2010 and is a good backup after you draft a QB high in 2011.

     

    For the Bills sake I'm hoping that Clausen as a falling QB that so many teams passed on, follows Brady Quinn's career trajectory, and not that of Aaron Rogers who a lot of teams also passed on and who had similar reviews out of college.

     

    Before we do this, maybe we should wait until Brohm gets a chance to play. Not saying he will be great, but what I am saying is we dont know yet, so lets give him a shot out there before we start this stuff.

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