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Not to offer any objectivity or anything but the press does have some advantages in assessing our chances over us. We are so focused, even obsessed, with our own team that we, perhaps, don't appreciate what is happening with other teams in the league and how we compare with them. Further, we love the Bills the way a parent loves a child so we are probably the least objective when it comes to them. On top of all that, we do this in our spare time, they do it for a living. Their every mistake is recorded, discussed, condemned and remembered. Crap we say gets lost in the flood within a day or two so our credibility is not on the line 24-7.
Lastly, I don't get your point about going after people on the board who find it entertaining to discuss various articles. The question you ask, "Who Cares?" might just as well apply to your post. Why do you care that people care? What is the point of showing how foolish they are for caring? Frankly, "Who Cares?" could be asked about 99% of the subjects we discuss. Talk about the draft? Nothing we say matters, they are going to pick who they pick so Who Cares? Talk about our new 3-4 defense? Nothing we say is going to make it work or fail and none of us know what their real plans are so Who Cares? On an on. Who Cares? Lots of people do and enjoy doing so, why does it bother you? If you don't like those threads, don't read them. Those posters don't need you to save them from themselves.
I hear ya, and fair enough...To answer your question, its just the tireless whining on this board about the media, consipiracy theories, etc. spreads not only into new threads but poors into other threads too and the shout box. And its the same stuff over and over and over again...same responses, same rants, etc. Not to mention, someone starts a new thread about every single comment someone makes or about some obscure blogger in his mothers basement who just released his meaningless rankings.
It just seems to be even worse than normal and getting a bit rediculous this year...
EDIT: Obviously you edited your post while I was writing this one, but still answered your question...of course I can ask you the same question...why respond in a thread you dont care about? I bet you have the same answer I do...
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Ah, I see...that would expain why there were already 26 posts in it before you started this thread
And yet there are several new threads started daily on here about the Bills in the media, so the point still stands...
FYI: Almsot half of the 26 posts were by the original poster, and there were only 12 other posters in the entire thread. So, wow, 12 posters found that specific thread...and yet somehow there are countess threads started on here ranting about what they see or hear in about the Bills in the media...and those threads get a handful of posters to many pages of posters in each one...
So clearly, that thread isnt being seen by many nor used...hence the request for a pinned one...
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You mean, rather than starting a new thread, using one that is already established - like maybe this one???
Link - The Stadium Wall - The Expert Prediction storage Area
lol...well, I wasnt aware of that thread, and more importantly neither was most of this board as their are several threads started daily about someone butt hurt over a report they read or a comment they heard. So, my original point still stands and the question is still unanswered which is "Who Cares"?
And like I said, that thread should be pinned where people can see it then so they will use it and we dont have dozens of butt hurt rants all over this board where everyone rewrites the exact same thing in each thread...
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Ok, seriously, I dont understand why this board gets its panties in a wad over every article, comment, blog, smoke signal, message in a bottle, etc that basically doesnt think we will be very good and ranks us last or in the bottom 3. Not only that, each one has to have its own thread about it (several daily) so everyone can post the exact same responses in every thread about what a jerk off the guy is or how they "hate" the Bills or some other conspiracy theory.
I keep asking this question and no one has yet to answer it, so here it is again...
WHO CARES? Power rankings are literally worthless to begin with...remember the last time we got "respect" in the power rankings and were 5-1? Oh yeah, we finished the season winless in our division with a 1-7 record to miss the playoffs.
What respect do you think we deserve as a team who hasnt made the playoffs in a looonnng time? What moves did we make that the outside public who does not follow this team closely would see as optimistic? I mean you do realize that these people writing these stories, rankings, etc are not following every single move, practice, etc about this team that the die hard fans follow right? So, since they are not doing that, take a moment and look at the FACTS they have to go on based on the season we are coming off of...
Here is what the media knows as facts about our offseason leading up to Week 1:
1. We hired a coach that shocked many people...a guy who was fired from his last job as OC days before the season began just last year
2. We have the same starting QB we had last year when he was awful
3. We added no significant players to a bad O Line
4. We lost a HOF WR and replaced him with guys who barely have seen the field
5. We lost our best shot at a playmaking TE for the first 4 games due to suspension
6. We drafted a RB #9 overall when we had a potent run game already
7. We are switching to a 3-4
8. We are installing our 3rd offenisve scheme in 3 years
9. 2 key starting OL guys are coming off major injuries
10. Our best pass rusher retired and we arleady had a weak pass rush last year
Seriously, how can anyone expect the media, who really only sees what I just wrote above, to think this team is going to be any good this year? And more importantly, why the hell do any of you care? WINS will shut them up...until then, they have a point.
Personally, I dont see it like it is above, I like the direction of this team and what Chan has done thus far. I see potential in this team this year and I really like the Chan hiring now...and I am optimistic, but that optimism is hinged to the play at the QB position. But, at the same time, I dont expect anyone else that doesnt follow training camp reports daily, practice notes, etc to see that given the above information.
So rather than start a NEW thread for every little negative comment about the Bills upcoming season before the season has even begun, maybe we should just pin one called "Bills in the media" where everyone can just post their hate posts about the "lack of respect" (undeserved respect I might add) the media shows this 6 win team from last year that hasnt made the playoffs for 3 presidential administrations...
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So just how important is a good QB to winning the Super Bowl? Every eight years or so a "bad" QB wins the Super Bowl, and other than that it's basically Hall of Famers.
Keep this in mind when things get tough this season and take solace. Nothing matters anyways until they get a top QB prospect! Hopefully these Bills can live up to the hype secure that top draft pick to give us a shot at a real QB.
Go Bills!
Well considering almost every QB on here is a HOF QB or serious contender to be in the HOF when their career is done, that doesnt bode well for Trent. Add in the fact, that even the guys on this list that are not HOF caliber were significantly more productive than Trent has been, even Dilfer, so again doesnt bode well for Trent.
That being said, I really really do hope he can turn it around and be a consistent starter in this league under Chan. I dont have a lot of faith in this as their were a lot of big issues with his game I really dont like that need to change before this can happen, and thats a lot to ask.
That being said, the last 2 preseason games were encouraging...funny thing is, his highest rated game this preseason, which was game 2, was one where I felt he really didnt look good at all outside of one long pass to a wide open Lee where he said he just chucked it and hoped Lee could get to it. The last two games where his rating was lower but still strong I thought he did look much better as he looked good throughout his time on the field, not just one play.
So, I hope Trent proves me wrong and can turn it around as I have nothing personal against him, just really hated the way he played and reacted to adversity out on the field. He needs to show me something in the regular season and for whole games before hope for him starts to return to the levels I had for him until he played his way out of favor with me.
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Don Banks has us at 2-14 and every other last place team prediction at at least 4 wins, so clinching the #1 pick before the last week of the regular season is even played:
Predicting the 2010 NFL season
And I thought the #31 in the ESPN Power Rankings was silly!
I will take the over I guess.
Go Bills!
In all these continous daily threads started about people predicting us to be a bottom three team I keep asking a very simple question that no one has yet to answer...so here is one more try:
WHO CARES?
Seriously, why do people get their panties in a wad over this stuff? What exactly have we done that the outside world should respect? Our 2 biggest needs were OL and QB help, and we did nothing to fill either. We have a coach that was fired just before the start of the season last year by KC, the same QB that started last year and was pretty bad, no help on the OL, our third offensive scheme in 3 seasons, we replaced a HOF WR with guys who have barely played, saw our best pass rusher retire, and are switching defensive schemes too boot.
Until we start putting points on the board and start winning some games, no one is going to think we are going to be very good considering how our off season looks to outsiders. I personally think we are headed in a great direction, but I dont expect outsiders who dont closely follow this team to see that until it shows up on the field.
So again, why does anyone care and what have we done to deserve the respect others feel we dont get? I bet no one answers this question, and once again there will be 4 more new threads about some jerk off who bad mouthed the Bills again and how he is the spawn of the devil for doing so.
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1)Are you ever going to run out of excuses defending Brohm? I bet 20 years after he's out of the league, which will be about 21-22 years from now, someone will find you at the end of a bar still making excuses for the guy.
2)Troy Smith is on the SF 49ers: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-20100907_49ers_sign_troy_smith_cut_nate_davis
What excuse? Everything I wrote is fact...he threw one pass on his second appearance...fact. In the last preseason game he had several passes dropped...fact. He also had receivers on more than one occasion run wrong route...fact. And the INT was the fault of the TE...fact. And several of those WRs and that TE were cut and Brohm was kept as a result...fact.
So where is the excuse in a discussion of facts?
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Some people can tell who good players are without stats, by watching the game. Since you seem incapable, here is a stat for ya: That 76 QB rating you're glowing about (not to mention the fact that its the !@#$ing preseason) is worse than the career QB rating of Charlie mother!@#$ing Batch. Is that God awful enough for ya?
I cant believe I am about to defend Trent here, but here goes as he earned it the last few weeks (still need to see him do it in the regular season though before I start having confidence in him)...that rating you just pointed out is an easy cop out for you to make a lame point...you are comparing Charlie Batch to the collective QB play of a team in preseason, including a guy who was cut where most of the guys out there were playing with scrubs, many of which are no longer even on this team.
Our starters QB rating (the ONLY rating that currently matters) was as follows:
Was 29.2 in his first outing in a long time and the first in a brand new offense...the whole team blew this game, especially Trent
Indy 142.2 - This outing wasnt as good as rating suggests IMO, but still a much better showing than Skins game
Cin 122.9 - Looked even better and more comfortable
Det 118.8 - 100% completion in this game
Overall, his QB his preseason totals were: 29-41 = 70.7%, 370 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT and a QB rating of 104.73...So, tell me how does that compare to Charlie Batches career rating?
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Seriously, Spiller is just sick in those videos...I dont even remember the topic of this thread
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Can't believe the lack of respect for the Bills this year. This is not the first post suggesting that...but this article is just icing on the cake.
Ok, serious question... WHO CARES?
What is with this board always getting their panties in a wad everytime some media outlet believes we are not very good? Seriously, there are multiple threads DAILY started on how this guy said this or that. What "respect" do you think we should have or deserve? You people act like any of these people closely follow this team as closely as we do.
Here is what the media knows as facts:
1. We hired a coach that shocked many people who was fired from his last job as OC days before the season began just last year
2. We have the same starting QB we had last year when he was awful
3. We added no significant players to a bad O Line
4. We lost a HOF WR and replaced him with guys who barely have seen the field
5. We lost our best shot at a playmaking TE for the first 4 games due to suspension
6. We drafted a RB #9 overall when we had a potent run game already
7. We are switching to a 3-4
8. We are installing our 3rd offenisve scheme in 3 years
9. 2 key starting OL guys are coming off major injuries
10. And werent very good last year and always seem to lose a lot of our key players to major injuries...
Seriously, how can anyone expect the media, who really only sees what I just wrote above, to think this team is going to be any good this year? And more importantly, why the hell do any of you care? WINS will shut them up...until then, they have a point.
Personally, I dont see it like it is above, I like the direction of this team and what Chan has done thus far. I see potential in this team this year and I really like the Chan hiring now...and I am optimistic IF, and thats a big IF, we can get solid QB play. But, at the same time, I dont expect anyone else that doesnt follow training camp reports daily, practice notes, etc to see that given the above information.
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73.8, 69.7 and 43.2 (last season's ratings) might be what awful is referring to. With that said, I think the numbers will go up under Gailey.
43.2 It's not love for Troy Smith as much as that number. Brohm followed that up with 82.4, 39.6 and 34.9 this preseason. Then again, this might be what awful refers to.
Come one man, those numbers on Brohm are bogus. In the second game he attempted one pass...so throw that QB rating out, and in his 3rd appearance his QB rating rests on the shoulder of his failed teammates who dropped several right on the money passes and that crap TE who caused the INT...the rating is no where near close to his level of play that game. Not saying he was the second coming of Manning or Brady, but that rating was greatly affected by the many mistakes by the guys he was throwing to running wrong routes, dropping passes, and that crap TE that was cut causing an INT.
Troy Smith is a long way away from being an NFL QB right now, hence why he doesnt have a team.
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Cutler has never been an elite QB. Even when he was in Denver, his numbers were related more to the talent on offense, and the sheer number of passing attempts.
If it was all about the weapons, then why didnt Orton put up the same numbers while throwing to the same weapons? What about Royal? He had 91 catches as a rookie catching passes from Cutler and vanished with Orton at the helm?
Cutler definitely needs work to be a succesful QB in this league, mainly in decision making. But to attribute all his succes in Denver to his weapons is illogical, especially since it was Cutler who has to deliver the ball to those weapons. People act like the "weapons" around him had some magical gravitational pull that just magically brought the ball to them. Cutler had to drop back, see the open guy, and throw an accurate pass for them to be able to catch it.
Not to mention, Cutler carried that team as the defense couldnt stop a High School offense when he was there. He kept games close by putting points on the board as the defense just kept giving points up. Heck, the Denver defense even made one of the most pathetic offenses that year look good, the Buffalo Bills.
I am not saying good weapons around a QB dont help a QB succeed, what I am saying is that even with great weapons a QB still has to EXECUTE and make the play happen. A great OL can make an average RB look great because anyone, even my grandmother, can run in a straight line through a hole with no defenders in it. But a QB still has to drop back, see the field, time the throw, and make an accurate pass while avoiding the pass rush.
And truthfully, how do you know that the weapons were that "good" and it wasnt Cutler who made them better? Scheffler and Royal were no where near the same players with Orton under center than Cutler under center. So maybe it was Cutler who made them better and not the other way around...
And this isnt to defend Cutler, as its clear and always has been, that he needs to improve his decision making before he can be a very good QB. However, I still see him as a talented QB with a lot of upside if he can work on his decision making.
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I just cant figure out what people are thinking that say this kid, Brohm, is a scrub or not a potential contributor. He lit up college in a highly competitive league (Big East, West Virginia was a top 5 team (U of L busted them), Pitt was top 5 to 10 (Brohm and U of L busted them), and I think Rutgers (U of L had every shot to win, but lost this one) cracked the top 10). He man handled wake forest in the Orange bowl, was Orange bowl MVP and set a passing yards record in the Orange bowl. He was one very close game (Rutgers) shy of an undefeated season and a chance at a national title, he was in the top 2 to 5 in the nation in every positive statistical catagory for a quarterback as a sophmore,Junior and Senior. AND, he didnt have a bad senior year. He had a great statistical senior year..........his defense just sucked, thus his team sucked (6-6). He put up great numbers in spite of being on the field far less. What are you people hoping for in the draft ("Jim Kelly isnt walking in that door", ok, sorry, couldnt pass that one up). I think he made a big mistake by not going the draft in his junior year, and watching the draft and his sliding into the 2nd round after being projected as the possible top pick the year before, you could see the confidence slipping out of him. And I think that confidence kept slipping away in Green Bay. And, for a kid that never had confidence issues (cover of sports illustrated in high school), I would say it was hard for him to find his stride. BUT, I think he is finding it now, and if he is, he might come back better than ever as a result. Whether or not many of you want to admit it,confidence is a huge factor in NFL success and failure (especially at the QB position) or for any professional athelete AND, it can be lost and never found again. Just look at how your other 2 QB's have performed this year compared to years past. This is a coach that knows how important confidence is to the QB....and one that has built it up in all 3 of his QB's. Case in point: what he did to some fans heckling Edwards a few weeks ago? That was huge and right in line with a lot of other things this man does to build confidence in his players. Buffalo has the right coach.
Great post!
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Sweet I have flacco in one of my fantasy leagues
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I'll admit it. This thread is a bit negative but I think it's necessary.
The lack of accountability that people have for their stated positions and their crusades is truly amazing.
Recall the clamor and hysteria of some of the posters here as we got closer to cut down day. The din was deafening. At one time two weeks ago, we had 5 different threads about the quarterback situation on page one alone.
Lots of our members were just totally adamant AND VOCAL about what they thought was going to happen/what they wanted to have happen to the Bills roster (the two often get confused in some people's minds).
Those same people are conspicuous by their silence now…especially on matters such as which quarterbacks would made the roster.
So who said what and where are those people now?
I remember more than a few guarantees that Kawika Mitchell was going to get cut. Ditto for Chris Kelsay.
Where are all those folks who were positive that Levi Brown was gonna be kept as the third quarterback and not waived?
Where are all the Brian Brohm haters? The Fitzy haters?
Now's the time to confess to the error of your ways. The truth will liberate you!
Man up and be accountable for your opinions.
Or quietly close out of this thread and pretend you didn't read it.
Lets look at the list...
I never once thought Kelsay or Mitchell would get cut
I never once thought Levi would be on the active roster
I definitely wasnt a Brian Brohm hater and I wasnt a Fitz hater, more of a Fitz realist...saw him as a good backup but not so good full time starter.
So, going down the checklist, I dont seem to have anything to confess on this list as I was pretty much on the right side of fence on these...
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I kinda trust Chan's judgment of qbs, and if Brohm was not good enough to beat out Trent or Fitzpatrick, he can not be that good of a qb. Let's go get Troy Smith and put him on the roster. Chan's offensive mind might do wonders with a mobile guy like Troy.
First off...the QB depth chart doesnt always indicate the viewed potential of a player by the FO on any team. It indicates who they feel is the most ready to be in the game at this moment. Clearly, the staff thinks enough about Brohms potential to keep a third QB on the active roster, especially considering how few OL guys we kept. Just because he still lists Brohm as #3 does not mean they dont see a future for him. Chan has continually said some pretty good things about the kid on top of that and that he needs to just work on continual accuracy which comes with reps and time with his recievers.
This kid looked promising almost every time he was out there this PS while playing with scrubs who did him no favors. Of course, the madden playing posters here are going to look at his madden rating and his stat line and declare him a bust rather than look at the game footage of him and see the kids potential.
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A second next year and a third in 2012. Not bad. His salary demands are a drawback. But imagine a lineup with Evans, Jackson, Roscoe, Jackson, Spiller. Thats ridiculous!
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-jacksonvikings090110
This is guy is over rated based on his contract demands. He does not have the resume worthy of the contract he is demanding. He is not Fitzgerald or Andre Johnson. He hasnt been consistent with high production over his career. Yes, he has had some good seasons, but the guy wants a rediculous contract. Proof in the pudding is that all the teams who inquired about trading for him immediately withdrew from talks as soon as they heard his contract demands.
More importantly, we would not get the production out of him that his contract would imply based on how this team is built.
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He wasn't cut because of TO...they signed TO because they knew they were going to cut him because he was struggling with injuries...in other words TO was his replacement. There was talk of him maybe not making the rosters weeks before TO ever signed there, this was expected and known for a while now, they just finally made it official.
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"CJ Dippa" LMAO if you know that reference...
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Bob
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He was talking about were jackson would be traded and he said this for the bills
"Buffalo: The Bills need a playmaker and sending Jackson to a weak team would teach Jackson a lesson. "
Just a comparison to a probably worse team
"St. Louis: Jackson would be a very nice welcome gift for Sam Bradford."
Come on what the !@#$ is going on with analysts this year. Do they really hate the bills?
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/16212/where-vincent-jackson-could-end-up
Why does anyone care or expect any different based on the product we have put out there the last couple of years?
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How does CJ Spiller not enter this season as the starting running back? He was the 9th pick in the draft, he's a match-up nightmare for defenses, he's better than expected between the tackles. He should be starting games and Jackson/Lynch should be coming in later to pound it home. Don't get me wrong, the load should be divided, but don't we want the ball in this guy's hands as much as possible?
I'm very interested to see what Gailey does when he has the three back healthy. He's going to have some crazy formations!
Well, there is a lot more to playing as a starting RB in this league than just your ability to run the ball. He has to be able to pass protect to in order to be an every down back. I have no idea where he is at in his development in terms of pass protection, or even how it compares to FJ or Lynch in that area, but for him to see the bulk of the reps he is going to need to be competent at the least in that area.
That being said, if he can due his part in pass protection and puts up 300 combined yards or so and a couple of TDs in the first 2 weeks, its going to be really hard not giving him the most touches of our RB's.
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Bye bye Brian. Good luck in the UFL.
Seriously, can this thread being any stupider? Just because Trent has one good preseason game does not change Brohms potential...it literally has absoulutely no relevance on any level to Brohms potential. If he had come out and stunk it up, then you could have a leg to stand on. But they gave Fitz the go ahead in this game as they will likely give Brohm the go ahead in the next game for the battle for the backup spot. If Brohm struggles next week, then maybe...but right now, Chan has said nothing but good things about him and he is still competing for the 2nd string job.
But, you and a few other posters whos girls were knocked up by Brohm just cant help yourselves. The kid still has potential and is still battling for the second string job until Chan says otherwise. And there is still a good possibility we will keep all 3 guys.
PS: One preseason game doesnt all of a sudden salvage Trents career. He still needs to do it when it counts and also try and have his first season since High School of being injury free. Its great to see Trent have success, but this game means nothing come week 1.
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Add in that guys like McCoy and LeFevour are in danger of being cut in their first preseason and this draft class is not exactly off to a good impression.
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Personally, I find Rex Ryan to be hilarious and highly likable. Who knows how it will translate to the field.
Totally agree...I actually really like Rex Ryan and if he was our coach this board would be quoting him and drooling all over this guy. Hes a Jet though, so I get the hate on here...but I like him.
Rooting for Injuries
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Here is a situation where I would normally say "no offense, but..." in a reply...however, not going to do it this time as I dont care if you take offense to it Tonya Harding.
Nothing surprises me on this board anymore, but man, some of this crap is just sad. Seriously, you are a massive, and I mean massive, p*ssy and coward for rooting for someone to get hurt so you have a chance to beat them. That is so pathetic that I almost feel sorry for you and that is a philosphy direct from the book "Things Loser Say" which you seem to be the author of, or at the very least, the ghost writer of.
If we cant beat the Pats with Brady then we are not going to beat other great teams either, so whats the point of hoping Brady misses a game so we can have a better shot of winning one game? Winners want to play the best and beat the best, but thats clearly an entirely different book above your reading comprehension.
PS: You do realize that this is just a game right? If your happiness is so hinged on beating the Pats that you wish people hurt just to increase the odds of a win, then you need to make some changed in your life...