Alphadawg7

This might be the single most ridiculous thing I have ever read on this forum. It also might be the single most inaccurate thing I have ever read on this board. And it also might be simultaneously the single most delusional and narcissistic thing I have ever seen on this forum to even remotely imagine you could know as much or more than a career long football coach who has coached at the highest level of the sport and been part of the highest level of success of the highest level of the sport. I am actually impressed such a trifecta could even be accomplished in one post, so ironically, my hats off to you, bravo. PS: Football is without a doubt the most complex of all major team sports, and it's not close.

Im not a Rex Ryan fan by any means - but he has forgotten more football knowledge in the last hour than you have ever known in your entire lifetime. But no, I was NOT referring to Rex Ryan specifically if that helps your absurd take.

I am not saying his seat shouldn't be hot, but the reality is Terry loves him, and he has a great W/L record, we are still a leading SB favorite despite being riddled by injuries. So I doubt McD really fears his job right now because I seriously doubt anyone inside the organization is giving him any reason to. To be clear, I am not defending him, I am fully on board making changes if this falls short again. But more commenting on why he probably doesn't fear his job by stating how the ownership and FO see him and likely not giving him any kind of reason to fear for his job, at least not yet.

Weird then that so many current and former players, coaches, and GM's who regularly speak about him don't agree with you. Guys who know and lived the game at a level no one here can even relate to all gush about him as a player, a weapon, and what he brings to the offense. You will be hard pressed to find anyone outside of a small contingent on TSW who don't think Shakir is a very good player.

Dont get me wrong, I totally agree with you. Which is why I said in my next sentence you didn't quote that I still think McD should take over play calling duties. I was just being fair about the half time adjustment. I am not a Babich fan at all.

Lol - so you counter back against my point Allen doesn't throw a great deep ball with a pass from his rookie year to a wide open Foster, a play where John Brown threw the ball to Allen (so not an Allen pass nor a long pass), and one pass from several years ago to Davis? Geezus. https://www.nfl.com/videos/allen-overthrows-wide-open-diggs-misses-on-possible-89-yard-td There is a whole ton of passes to Diggs in his final year here where he was wide open and the ball was either under thrown and caught preventing a TD or bigger gain on a more accurate pass, or flat out missed for an incompletion or interception. You will be hard pressed to find someone who loves Josh more than me, and I do think he is the best QB in the NFL. But I can still be unbiased about his strengths and weaknesses, and his deep ball placement is not the best part of his game.

I am not saying you cant use him for that too, I am saying they run too many routes for him that don't suit his game. You cant just throw 50/50 balls to him, you need to move him around and let him run routes where he is better suited for success too. Just running him deep down field along the sideline to maybe throw and back shoulder pass to all the time is not going to get him regularly involved, not to mention, it makes it pretty easy to scheme against. He has shown he can be dangerous on slants, crossers, comebacks, but he gets very few targets and routes like that each week. They seem to use him more like Mack Hollins than an actual focal point of the passing attack.

I will say this - I was fuming first half and screaming that McD needs to take over play calling duties. But, I will give Babich credit that the 2nd half was much better than the first. That being said, I still have very low confidence in Babich at this point and still think McD should take over play calling duties, its helped the D each time he has done it in the past. Bills Monday night were like my golf game where my short game and long game are never good at the same time. When the defense would do its job on a drive finally, the offense came out and was total a**. Then when the offense was finding success, the defense was total a**. I am waiting for this team to finally find more balance. Defense is a hard read given the number of players out still. So there is some sliver of hope still for improvement when Hairston, Milano, the roid duo, etc all get back out there. But while I have been a Brady fan, his play calling this season has not been very good IMO. I don't think the offense plays with enough urgency, I don't think his down and short calls are any good, and I don't think there is enough focus to get our best playmakers involved. Also - I think there is TOO much rotation on both sides of the ball. We need our best impact players seeing more snaps, touching the ball more, etc. This includes guys like Deone, Shakir, Cook, Kincaid.

I don't care what some small contingent of TSW says - Shakir is special. His ability to do something with the ball after the catch is literally elite. His hands, his focus, his dependability, etc are all also elite. The Bills need to focus on getting the ball into their best playmakers hands, which you nailed are Shakir, Cook, and Kincaid. Just move the freaking chains - moving chains scores points - its what 2 dynasties were just built on in KC and NE. Even when they had Hill, KC still led the NFL in passes and yards gained near the LOS by a wide margin. Furthermore - We have Cook and Allen - somehow we are awful now on down and short. Something we were elite at - but they decided to bastardize the tush push, almost like for a complete defiance to do it since they voted against it, in the AFCCG and it literally cost us a SB birth (that and the refs swinging the game 11-15 points in the 4th stealing our first down twice within 2 plays). Brady, you should just literally just go watch the Eagles dominate on down and short like no team in history instead of just playing all these cutsie crap calls. Also, if we have such a great OL, run more 2 TE sets where BOTH TE's are out there putting pressure on the defense like the Pats had with Gronk and Murder Inc. Knox has top 10 TE talent, let him eat too. Finally - Keon - I was optimistic on him after his camp and offseason work. But the fact is, Bills are using him as inmproperly as he was used in college. Stop funning him out there for just 50/50 ball type routes because he isn't burning anyone on the outside. They need to move him around, use more crossers, more come backs, etc. When they do, he is effective. But watching his routes this past week was maddening, Brady should know already what he is best at and start using him properly. They care so much more about him running a route to clear out or block that there are not enough routes for him to have a high success rate at. Either commit to making him a part of the offense or get someone like Samuel more snaps who can win deep.

I would welcome Shaheed - but I am going to be unbiased here - Josh doesn't throw a good deep ball. There is a long list of highlights from Diggs his last 2 years here of Josh flat out missing him, over throwing him, or under throwing him to where if the catch was made he was tackled on what should have been big YAC or a TD if properly thrown - not mention the INTs. Even on Monday Josh under threw that deep ball to Palmer, and had some other off target deep shots. So while I would certainly welcome Shaheed for his deep speed, I don't know he does a whole lot for the offense. He isn't the kind of WR that commands attention like a lead WR1, he is a deep ball specialist or a guy in short area you hope gets some YAC with his speed. Not sure he is much different than what Samuel is here, I mean they are very similar players and we aren't even using Samuel. Against the Pats, Samuel was open for some big gains but didn't even get the targets. Again, all for Shaheed, but I think what this team really needs is a viable outside WR1. And while I entered the season optimistic on Keon based on his camp, the reports of how different he looks, the work he put in, etc - the reality is that the Bills still are not using him properly, and the role they use him in is not getting the job done. I don't think there are many realistic trade options even available for what the Bills need. But if I am Beane and truly going to see if I can go find an outside lead WR, I am calling the Bears first to check DJ Moore's availability. Outside Moore, the only other WR1 that is probably a realistic target in terms of being available and the team willing to trade them to the Bills (Wilson is never being traded to the Bills for example), is Olave, and he doesn't have a good catch rate in any year of his career regardless of his QB. He would still be an upgrade, but I also would not want to over pay for him either as I don't think he is good enough to over pay for.

Deone Walker is our best defensive player - prove me wrong.

WTF - clear catch, 100%. Then Keon gets mauled and no call.

All good

Are you high? Read the comment I replied to, it was the poor throw to Knox earlier in the series I was responding to.

Poor throw by Josh, he’s made a couple poor throws already

Ive never seen a board so in love and obsessed with such a mediocre player. Its ok to want more speed here, but that doesn't make Worthy the guy either. The miss in that draft was no where close to Worthy. If the Bills could go back to their original pick and instead of trading the pick away made their selection, there is 0% it would be Worthy, literally 0%. There are better players that were available there than what Worthy is, including at WR, but also several other positions. The real "miss" was not trying to trade for BTJ (The big 3 were not realistic and there were no trade partners, this has been confirmed as none of the teams up that high wanted to come down as far as Buffalo was). Now its possible Beane tried, none of us were in the war room - but based on everything we heard and what Beane said before and after the draft, etc, its a pretty reasonable assumption that we did not try to move up at all. But, I really felt his combination of size and speed was rare and that to pair that with Josh was both something I thought we would try and get (and should try and get) if he got to a reasonable trade up range. At the same time, I get Beane (and really everyone) expected the team to be in a mini-retool last year with the turnover on both sides of the ball. So I get why moving up was less appealing in a season we were already down a 3rd even though I still would have entered the draft with the notion that if BTJ got close enough we would at least try and get him. And that opinion is not after his rookie season, I went into that draft both wanting that and believing that we would do that too given the needs at WR.

I have been praying for them to pursue Budda for 2 seasons now. He would make a lot of sense and would immediately be a significant upgrade even at this stage of his career to our safety room. Wilson and Waddle I have a hard time seeing as realistic options. Jets just paid Wilson to build around him knowing they have QB issues, so not sure why it would change now 6 weeks in. I don't think there is much of a chance they trade Wilson, and certainly don't think they would ever trade him to the Bills for Allen and Wilson to play together in their primes. I would be willing to give up a lot for Wilson, he is a tremendous talent, but that is also why I don't think the Jets have any interest in handing that kind of talent to Josh Allen in his prime. Waddle I can see getting moved potentially, but they literally have no one else to throw to now or next year, so not sure they pull that trigger and also highly doubt they would let him go to Buffalo in Allens prime either to help add the one area to Josh's arsenal he is missing, downfield speed. At WR, Olave would probably be the most realistic guy both available and as a target for the Bills. I would be open to us going after him, but I would be cautious about the cost as I do still think he gets a bit overrated around here. He would bring a welcomed deep threat to our outside passing game, but he doesn't have a great catch rate and his best season came on the back of heavy, yet inefficient, volume. So for me, I just don't want to see us over pay either.

We only lost because of careless turnovers to the tune of 3-1. So, no disrespect, but unless your justifiable frustration was over turning the ball over too much, not sure what justifiable frustrations manifested in this loss.

Whether Keon turns out to be the right or wrong pick is one thing - but he wasn't lasting much longer though. If they wanted him, they really couldn't go much further back as NE was hot on Keon and had been trying to trade up for him too. With Keon gone they took Polk early instead who was a similar prospect at pick 34.

If we dont at least reach the SB, then I think everything should be reevaluated, including both McD and Beane. But - honestly with Beane, I think the odds are much greater that we would get worse at GM, not better if we got rid of him Look around the league, there are not a lot of good GMs. And if you look at the "hot" GM's fans (many here) clamor for over the years, those same GM's are on the hot seat or fired shortly after and often for the things fans loved them for - big over pay moves that didn't work out and set the franchise back. I think the more reasonable approach would to first make a change at HC before I would clear out Beane. Especially when Beane is building the roster around his coaches and what they want. If you are going to make a change, then start with the coaches and see how things go for another season with Beane before you gamble on replacing him with someone who is a lot more likely to be a downgrade than an upgrade.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46513232/buffalo-bills-wr-keon-coleman-benched-first-drive-snf Surprised I didn't see a thread on this. Doesn't sound like a big deal, it was just for the first series apparently over something during the week. If I had to guess (and I am only guessing as they didn't say what the specific reason was), I would bet he was late to something. Before people blow this up, if you read the article both McD and Brady talk on it and have both good things to say and site areas of where they want to see more consistency from the young player. So this isn't some doom or gloom moment, but still worth noting. The encouraging part is they said they are seeing growth, and the area they want to see more from is consistency, which should come as no surprise to anyone. Personally, I think Brady needs to do a better job at getting him (and Palmer) involved. While I like Brady overall, his play calling and his situational decisions have left a lot on the field out there at times this year. I think with a guy like Keon, they need to start making an effort to get him more involved and putting him position to do so more often with crossers, slants, and comebacks. He seems like someone who will get stronger as you get him more involved and we saw it week 1 as well. Note: Samuel is another guy I think they need to work in more, he is getting open and not getting the looks.

That is totally fair criticism. I think there is plenty of fair criticism with how Brady has called games this year, used personnel, etc. I am not saying Brady is doing a bad job, but I think there are holes in how he has called games that if he shored up the offense would have fewer stalled phases in games and we would score even more points.

No disrespect, but I don't think they really "planned" on Tre being the starter. They said we needed speed in our secondary, even if Tre was to prove he had something left in the tank, speed was never going to be part of what he brought to the table. Based on everything said about Hairston, Tre, etc I think the plan was to let them legit compete in hopes that Hairston either won the job in camp or would eventually take over the job during the season. Tre getting first teams reps to start camp was not only not a surprise, but 100% what I expected as that is pretty much what they always do. Open camp with the vet over a rookie as the starter until the rookie earns the spot. They trusted Tre, and quite honestly, Tre had a good camp and was showing the most ready to play over Hairston. Not like they just handed Tre the job, he legit had a better camp before Hairston got a full camp to compete due to injury. They have spoken a lot about wanting to get more speed in our secondary, so if they had their wish, it would be Hairston out there right now instead of Tre. The unfortunate injury altered that possibility, but with him coming back, my expectation is they won't rush him in there, but I suspect we will see a lot of Hairston in the KC game with the 3 speedster WR's they have in Worthy, Brown, and Tyquan who all had sub 4.3 40's coming out of college.

So our offense that before Sunday had an NFL record for consecutive games not losing the turnover battle, Josh was at 33 TD's - 2 Turnovers in his previous 13 games, we were the highest scoring team in the AFC since "Everybody Eats" became a thing, scored more total points than any team in the NFL last year, including KC and PHI who each played one more game than us with the SB and after we sat the offense in week 17, and we saw our QB, Shakir, etc also set individual records in that span as well, including winning Josh his first MVP who personally set several records in that span. But we are out here complaining about an offense that has been the highest scoring offense in Bills history, the AFC this year, the AFC regular season last year, the AFC post season last year - instead of a defense that can't get off the field on 3rd down, that gave up 32 points in the AFCCG to a team that didn't break 30 the entire season outside that one game and was down 31-0 at one point the following week after hanging 32 on us, and a defense that has given up 35 PPG to the chiefs in our 4 playoff losses to them? I don't know what this Bills syndrome is called where people don't like scoring unless we score the way they want to score, but its wild to me. Meanwhile, our D is having issues right now and not playing well enough to make up for the rare instance when Allen and the offense struggle like they did when they made us lose the turnover over battle for the first time in like a season and a half 3-1 aganst the Pats. Not exactly a surpirse to lose a game when you lose the turnover battle 3-1. And yet, all our D had to do was not allow a game winning FG drive against a 2nd year QB on a less talented roster - but our injury riddled D failed to hold once again and between that and the self inflicted errors by 2 fumbles and a bad throw INT, we lost by 3.

Also completely untrue. Allen didnt throw it because he bailed on a clean pocket before setting his feet to make a throw. Literally every explanation you have given is factually disprovable on film.