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Gabe wasn’t pushed up the depth chart, he is a boundary WR, essentially WR2 as people know it. That is his positional role. Doesn’t mean he’s the “2nd option” in the passing game though, that is what they drafted Kincaid for with Diggs, to bring in their “Kelce” in terms of an offensive role. Gabe had limitations as a WR, but he also had a lot of value as a blocker and doing dirty work. Sanders was washed, so Gabe coming off a big post season seemed poised to start. And while he had limitations he still produced like a WR2 stat wise his first year starting and playing on a bum ankle. Heading into the 2023 draft, they were high on Addison and Kincaid…both to be upgrades as Allen’s secondary target in the pass game and we got Kincaid. Gabe had a similar year and they let him walk as they knew they were going to. So I don’t think he was “pushed” up, he played well enough to earn the starting spot once Sanders was toast. And then from their he just plateaued and didn’t continue to ascend into a more complete WR as hoped and they moved on.

I might be getting the schedule today…if I do I’ll put it up on the board

and significant roles for Davis and Carter

I think VPG is going to win the starting C job personally.

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Im guessing you have never watched Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy, Robin Williams, George Carlin, Rodney Dangerfield, and every other great comic that came long before PG Seinfeld who had edgy and vulgar comedy. Although since that’s your style of comedy I would recommend Nate Bargatze who is a hilarious comic and clean. He’s got amazing specials on Netflix and one on Amazon.

Funny thing is Davis may be a better receiver than Cook the TD dropper

There were plenty of Kraft jokes...did you even watch it? The person getting roasted still has to agree to do the show, and its not uncommon at all to have a specific thing or two that are off limits. Only thing off limits with Kraft was the happy ending jokes and then of course Brady's kids. Which is why I edited but apparently you replied before the edit posted. I just cant fathom how it can be labeled "unwatchable" and I suspect the poster who posted that link to the shock jock radio host who makes a living saying unpopular and controversial things probably didn't even watch it themselves. I mean there are multiple on here already slamming it who admittedly didn't even watch it. It reminds me when I went and worked on the broadcast team for the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, Utah. So many people told me how much it sucks there and how bored I will be...just to find out SLC and the surrounding areas were all awesome and I had an amazing time there and that literally all of the people telling me how bad it was had never even actually even been to Utah. I find it annoying when people come in and spew negativity on things they didn't even experience.

Davis was one of my favorite picks, in fact I absolutely love our first 5 picks. I had him as my top RB target day 3 and he was one of my fave RBs in the draft. Davis will make relevant contributions to the offense this year. I laughed when people said he wasn’t fast and just proves most fans have just dont understand “fast” in the NFL as they lean primarily on the least relevant metric of the 40 time. Davis is explosive, he’s got great burst and great acceleration. You want a guy that can burst through holes and accelerate past defenders. Way more important than his peak untouched straight line speed because that so rarely comes into play. Davis is not only explosive but runs with tenacity and I can’t wait to see him and Cook back there this year.

Funny…first line is that this old cranky radio host (who makes a living being controversial and saying dumb things) is “in the minority” of not liking what most think is one of the best roasts of all time. Then I see it’s a Fox News article and of course it makes even more sense. I get comedy varies for everyone by taste, and some may not love this roast. But I honestly can’t fathom how someone could be so grumpy that they could categorize that roast as “unwatchable”.

One of the comedians Andrew Schulz confirmed on a podcast that there were only two rules…no happy ending jokes about Mr. Craft and nothing about Brady’s kids. He also confirmed that when Brady went up to Jeff Ross after his massage joke during his set that it was real and a real warning. Ross was probably trying to toe the line by making a massage joke instead of a happy ending joke, but Brady squashed that immediately. Doesn’t sound like there was any bad blood about it or anything, Ross just tried to get one in without mentioning happy endings and Brady shut it down before more tried.

Literally the whole world thinks it was the funniest roast of all time. For someone to call them "unfunny comics" makes me question if that person has a pulse. And maybe you should just watch it rather than piece together a recap from clips, cuz your recap here is highly inaccurate as they torched Tom all night.

He said before the draft he wants to come to Buffalo and play with Josh Allen too and he also told the whole Bills staff on his 30 visit, even the girl at the front desk, they shouldn’t even let him leave because he knows he’s coming back. Buffalo was his top choice and where he wanted to be, so yeah, don’t think the cold worries him.

Yeah that was my point, they have all been working together on the board. Beane isn’t targeting guys that don’t fit what McD wants to do. Just saying on draft day, Beane is the clear decision maker and it’s his room without interference. You can see how everyone keeps asking him what his plan is or who he is gonna pick. Even with SVPG Beane said he’s taking Davis first then SVPG if he was still there. It’s one of the best relationships between a HC and GM in the league IMHO.

I mean all GMs take into account the thoughts and wants of the HC, at least the good GM's. Nothing worse than a GM forcing players that don't fit the mold of what the HC wants and utilizes in the team and style he runs. But make no mistake about it, Beane makes the final calls, makes the decisions on making moves up or down, etc. Beane runs this draft, and McD runs the team how he wants without meddling by Beane once the players are on the roster. They will always collaborate their thoughts on needs, free agents, draft picks, etc.

See if you can find some highlights on her other roasts too, she usually kills it at roasts.

I do find that a bit ironic to say they have nothing to do with your life while you actually take time out of your life to defend them and how they should be perceived to other people on a message board. But now I am honestly just curious where the line is with this way of thinking. So what about people who shoot up schools and murder kids...because your kid wasn't involved, they get the same "imperfect" should be treated as a "regular guy" defense from you? Or even say serial killers who didn't kill anyone you know? Or heck, even the big one...Hitler, if say none of your family was affected?

She's a stand up comic known for dirty and sexual humor. She had her own show on Comedy Central at one point too where she actually interviewed her parents about their sex life on a lie detector lol. She is also a popular roaster who does a lot of these and always delivers as one of the best of the night.

Wait...are you seriously lumping Brady and OJ into the same "imperfect" category? Where is this coming from? A guy who beat his wife long before she got murdered and committed other crimes after the murders deserves to be treated as a regular guy? The same guy that we all know actually murdered 2 people and got away with it because the prosecution blundered the easiest slam dunk case in history? There is no world or reality where OJ and Brady should be together in any category, let alone "imperfect". As someone whose own father was murdered in 1994, there is nothing "imperfect" about a murdering POS.

So Tony Hitchcliffe runs the biggest live podcast in the world called "Kill Tony". Its also filmed and put up on youtube like 3 weeks later which is where I watch it. The show is actually great if you like stand up comedy. How it works is simple...Tony and his side kick Redband (who helps produce the show live while going and runs some standup shows too) have on celebrity guest panelists every show of mostly other top comedians. Often there are multiple guests comedians too or sometimes one of those guests isn't a comic, but its mostly comedians as guest panelists. Tony then pulls names randomly out of a bucket of 100-200 people who are there that night and signed up to try and get there name called. Its in a comedy club in front of a live audience. If their name is called, they get to come up on stage and do 60 seconds. They are can run over like 15 seconds before generally a hard stop. Then Tony and the panel interview the person for like 3-7 minutes getting to know more about them whether they were awful or crushed it. They get everything from comincs doing it for years to newbies. Many bomb, and the panel roasts them for it. But he has also discovered a lot of top comics on this show too. And if you are really good, you can become a regular on the show too. Every show has a regular open it...one in the middle...and one to close the show. Everyone else is a bucket pull. He started the show in CA, but its in Austin now and shot at Joe Rogans comedy club who is also a frequent guest along with guys like Shane Gillis, Tom Segura, etc. Recently...Joe Rogan had Tucker Carlson on his podcast and then took him to the show not telling Tucker he was bringing him on stage and stunned Tucker and walked him out and sat him down on the panel with him and Tony. One of the regulars is this guy who has been killing it named Cam Patterson and here is a clip of what Cam said to Tucker right after he finished his 60 seconds. It was pretty hilarious...

Love these too, thanks for the heads up

Who cares. TE's can help you win Super Bowls, just ask the Chiefs, Pats, etc. Is it really though? Means Kincaid and Shakir will get more targets, both had a substantially better catch rate than Diggs and Davis. Samuel is here to take some as well and Coleman will get a nice chunk. Spreading out 2000 yards over 4 players is just 500 yards each. Reality is Shakir gets 300-500 more yards...Kincaid probably 200-300 more yards. Coleman probably gets 700-900 yards and Samuel probably 600-800 of those yards. Even if you take the lowest of those ranges, its over 2000 yards. And Coleman I would bet gets at least 8 of those TD's and Kincaid and Shakir should see a bump too.

Yet Beane has used essentially what began as 3 first round picks on receiving weapons for Josh in the past 5 drafts. Diggs, Kincaid, and Coleman which was our first until he swapped one pick back, but it was essentially our first. And don't bother with the weak attempt to remove Kincaid from that list, he was drafted to primarily be a receiver for Josh, not be a traditional TE. So how has Beane shown to overvalue RB's over receivers for Josh and under valued receiving for Josh? Draft: Beane has spent not only those picks above, but also threw in two 4ths as well in the trades to get Diggs and Kincaid. He also used a 5th on Shakir, and a 4th on Davis. At RB: He used a 2nd on cook, two thirds on Devin and Moss, and a 4th now on Davis. Hmmmm...much more on receivers than RB's. How about FA? Well he went out and got quite a few more WR's than RB's in guys like Brown, Cole, Sanders, Samuel, etc. While he has done very little at RB in free agency despite there being a lot of available RB's over the past 5 years. The funniest part of this new take of yours (besides that it suddenly doesn't involve the Chiefs who used a first round pick on a RB and used less premium draft capital on receiving help), is that the biggest gripe about the Bills offense under Daboll and then Dorsey was that we couldn't run the ball and we needed to be able to run the ball to take pressure off Josh. Now in 2023 we finally run the ball, the team finally starts winning by doing so, and now you are saying Beane suddenly overvalues RB's and under values receivers even though neither his draft investments or free agent spending suggests that. Got it. Good talk.

Beane did say he told Josh that it was possible Diggs could get traded ahead of their actually being a trade in place. Based on the way Beane has spoken about it and what’s come out, I think Beane was open to trading him but only if the deal made sense. And it sounds like Beane may have given Diggs team permission to see if they could find a trade that made sense, so Diggs probably made clear he preferred to be traded. But I’m confident that all happened this offseason in terms of really considering trading Diggs. So wouldn’t have left Beane time to prepare for that ahead of time. But I do still think it will prove to be addition by subtraction between both Diggs and Davis done for how this offense best functions. But no surprise people on the outside don’t see it like that. They don’t see Diggs never having a good postseason in 4 years here…or him disappearing 2 years straight in 2nd half of season, just his season totals. They don’t see Davis limitations and frequent disappearing acts, just his season end totals. So I get the doubt or question marks, but I personally think our offense will better overall than in 2023, more efficient, and more consistent personally.

Lol, you’ve been all over the place in this thread. And I’m pretty over the convo TBH at this point and was gonna move on with my day. But since you so badly want to keep going in circles… Why don’t you pick up all your pieces and state your actual point. So far you said things such taking a RB in the 2nd round is a mistake, which means by your words Cook was a mistake. You claimed Bills used a day 2 pick on Davis who was a Day 3 pick. You said Chiefs have done more in draft to help Mahomes with receivers and then try and cherry pick ways to make that appear true. You said kincaid doesn’t count as a receiving weapon yet basically because he’s not yet equal to the GOAT Kelce, and so on and so on. So what is actually your point then?