Alphadawg7

Just like we drafted the wrong Josh right

You mean the Diggs that was a ghost in the playoffs on a team that was soft and not physical enough in the playoffs? We needed to get tougher, can't have our QB be the only source of toughness on your offense.

More people had Coleman ranked ahead of Legette than the other way around. Coleman's avg draft ranking was WR7, Legettes was WR14

I wanted Thomas too, and I am not saying he is going to be a bust. But Thomas also hasn't proven he can be anything more than a go route guy yet, although I very much felt he was the 4th best WR in the draft. This was a great WR draft, lots of guys have a lot of potential. But I am telling you right now, Coleman is more ready to come in and be a WR1 than both Thomas and Legette are. And I am confident Coleman will have the best season by most measurements than both of those guys. If Thomas and Legette hit their potential, they could be great no doubt as well. But Legette went to the worst place possible for him IMHO and I don't think Thomas landed in a great spot for him either because with the WR makeup, they will probably primarily use him as a deep ball guy and not sure he develops there like he could have someone where else. Its also telling that people who know football...know WR's...just love Coleman. So I think people condemning his future right now over a 40 time while ignoring his fastest time in the gauntlet which is a better indicator of in game speed are making a mistake.

My point is bad weather negates speed and finesse, deep balls, etc. Teams who are more physical have the advantage and Bills have been too soft in the postseason. We need toughness at more places than just our QB. This dude is gonna be a baller here and I am stoked.

But hes slow according to all the people who know nothing about him, nothing about WR speed, nothing about grading WR's. The gauntlet time is SUBSTANTIALLY more indicative of a WR's on field game speed than a straight line run in shorts.

I think Beane and McD are tired of teams being more physical than us and more prepared to play in bad weather in our own home stadium than we are.

Thats such a cop out...Coleman is playing on a spread the ball around offense loaded with weapons who will get targets in Shakir, Samuel, Kincaid, Knox, and Cook all getting targets. Thomas should be the top guy there according to everyone on here. And Legette will be WR1 and should be a feature, so he should see even more targets than Coleman. So...yeah, I don't accept this rationale.

Cute. Where is your thread on the people who wanted Josh Rosen over Josh Allen? Why didn't you mention the board meltdown when we drafted Bernard? How about all the guys who mocked the Milano pick? How about the people who wanted to cut Spencer Brown last year? Or the majority of the board who argued with me all last offseason that Shakir can't catch? There are about a 1000 busts or bad takes this board BEGGED for and threw tantrums we they didn't get their way. So no offense, but your reply here is a joke. There are no NFL level scouts or GM's on this board and they are wrong a LOT more than they are right around here.

Curious...what are you going to say when Coleman puts up more yards, TD's and catches than both Thomas and Legette this season?

What do you think about Cooper Kupp? He ran a slower 40 time. Have you actually studied this guy or are you just freaking about a 40 time that is a small part of what makes in game on field speed?

Almost anyone who knows football and how to grade a WR.

I predict this thread is a gonna be fun read 3 years from now like the "wrong Josh" thread.

No he wasn't. He was going to go early in the 2nd and maybe on the next pick to the Pats where everyone thought he would be there pick if still on the board.

Coleman is a football player. Bills fans will realize this kid can ball soon enough. If you think you know Coleman because of his 40 time then you don't know anything about him.

I hate the Pats got Polk, he was one of my favorites. I knew he was going early in the 2nd if not end of round 1.

Good post. The obsession with 40 times is comical to me. He plays faster than his "40 time" and the gauntlet is a much more significant speed test and has to do a lot more with on field game speed. Give me anyone of Mitchell, McConkey, Coleman, Franklin, or Polk in round 2 and I will be a happy camper. Doesn't matter to me if its at 33, on a trade back, or at 60. Anyone of them this round and I will be thrilled. And I would take all 5 of them over Worthy, Legette, or Pearsall (I love Pearsall, but he wasn't the right fit for us)

Im not negative, I really like Deebo and watching him play. I pushed back on the over exaggeration though of Deebo and the reference to him being a generational talent. I don't share the same outlook that he is a perfect fit for us though. We need a boundary WR that can attack all 3 phases of the field, especially downfield. That is not Deebo. He is ok WR whose value is in YAC and short areas of the field where you get the ball in his hands and let him see what he can do. We already have 3 guys who specialize in that area and out of the slot in Shakir, Samuel, and Kincaid. And quite frankly, Shakir is quite good at YAC and has been referenced as being "Deebo lite" last year. For as good as Deebo is as a football player, he isn't that special as an actual WR downfield. It is why him and Aiyuk compliment each other so well. He needs to be next to an Aiyuk not a Shakir or Samuel IMHO.

Do you watch Deebo play? Because I do, and he is not the best WR on his own team, let alone better than Diggs has been. My wife is a die hard niners fan and we watch every game. Deebo is a nice player but he isn't a generational talent. And if you think any team would take Deebo over Marvin Harrison Jr, Malik Nabers, or Rome Odunze right now you are mistaken. Those guys are seen a generational talents whose ceilings vast exceed what Deebo is and at a fraction of the cost and younger age. And there are a lot of WR's in the NFL that make the Bills better than Deebo would. And I like Deebo, hes a good player. But he is not a generational talent, nor is he HOF bound, which if someone who is a vet at 28 is being labeled a "generational talent" they better be on a HOF trajectory. Deebo is excellent on YAC, but he isn't "great" at anything else. One of those "Jack of all trades, but master of none" type players. But come on...generational talent? Thats a Megatron, Moss, Julio, Hopkins, etc kind of player. If we are going to label guys like Deebo "generational talents" then they suddenly become not so rare.

Agreed. There is no need to make this move. He is talented, so obviously not the worst thing from on who is on the field stand point, but overall, I don't like the move for the Bills nor do I think they would do it. But you never know

Ok...lets look at the next 10 teams on the clock behind the Bills to see where we could maybe make another move to. I highly doubt we go even that far, Beane was ready to pick at 32 and made clear he doesn't want to go way down in the 2nd and already turned those offers down at 28. Maybe he gets one too good to pass up, but since we know he prefers to stay close, I am only looking at the next 10 picks. 33 (580) - BUF: WR, S, DL, CB, IOL are all areas we could take a player from, and all have guys we could take at 33 here. But we know WR is the most pressing need. 34 (560) - NE: Near lock to be offense and either OL or WR, probably WR. 35 (550) - ARI: Its not gonna be a WR, it will be Newton, Cooper, Kool-Aid, JPJ, or Frazier most likely. 36 (540) - WAS: They are focused on OL help 37 (530) - LAC: Sure bet to be a WR 38 (520) - TEN: Solid chance could be WR 39 (510) - CAR: Highly unlikely it will be WR 40 (500) - WAS: Moderate chance it could be WR 41 (490) - GB: Unlikely to be WR 42 (480) - HOU: No chance it will be WR So if the Bills wanted to trade back, there are only maybe 3 teams that could very well take a WR. NE at 34, LAC at 37, and maybe TEN at 38. So I think the Bills can maybe move back within the 30's still and feel good about still getting one of Franklin, Mitchell, McConkey, and Coleman if they like all 4 which they spent a lot of time with all 4. Then there is still possibly Tez Walker later they spent a lot of time with too. My guess, if Beane moves again it would probably be with Washington at 36 to say ahead of the Chargers. Only one team likely to take a WR between those picks (of course a team can always trade up too), but would assure us one of the 4 they have shown the most interest in.

Yes I can think of a dozen WR's before blinking an eye that make this team better Deebo does. Honestly, I can name 3 WR's in this draft that I would take without question over Deebo to make this team better. Deebo is a nice player, dont get me wrong, I like Deebo and enjoy watching him play. But "generational talent"? Same WR who has broken 900 yards once? If I am being totally honest, he is maybe the 5th best player on his offense, at best 4th (depending on where you rank Kittle) behind Trent Williams, CMC, Aiyuk, and Kittle.

DUH

Because I don't care to invest time to look into something that has almost no chance of happening.

Poll is easy, top of starting new post there is a tab to add a poll 0% chance that is happening. Beane literally said he had planned on picking at 32 until Carolina called last minute. So there are guys he likes here and he specifically stated the importance on getting more picks in the first 95 picks as critical to this draft. He isn't gutting all our picks for next year. 0% chance he had to get the Pegulas blessing to move back 4 spots and then 1 spot. That is his job, he isn't on the hot seat, he has the one of the best track records in the NFL since his hiring in the draft. Pegulas are not meddling or signing off on minor routine moves like that. What gives you that idea? Because we moved back 5 spaces in a very deep draft to get a valuable 3rd round pick back we didn't have and added much more value later too? No disrespect, but its like someone of you think the NFL draft is a 1 round thing or bust. 2nd and 3rd round picks are very valuable and its how you build rosters. Moving back 5 picks changed nothing on who we will draft and we added great value to our draft arsenal.