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If we pay that much for a WR I will vomit. To do so in one of the best, if not the best, WR draft in history then Beanes job should be in jeopardy…and I love Beane. The only acceptable outcome of that is if that WR goes on to be the best one of this draft and is franchise altering which is highly unlikely. We had a top 5 WR with Diggs and didn’t make a SB. That should tell you that it’s not worth that much to get a WR. Chiefs just won a SB with what everyone said was the worst WR group in the NFL. It’s crazy to me how much some of you want to give up for a WR. I get maybe giving our first next year to get Odunze, Nabers, or Thomas now that we have another 2 seconds next year, but that really should be our max given how good this draft is for WRs.

Ok man, was just chatting the pick up. You seem to be rubbed the wrong way about it, all good.

Ah I misread the draft and didnt see you took a CB already, so sorry about that. And no, I didn't want him, I am not sold Legette is a WR1 in the NFL yet. I was only talking from Cardinals perspective in friendly convo. Im not hating on your draft bud, even said I get your logic, I am just draft talking in general. I do think Cardinals go another direction with that pick than WR, just my opinion, doesn't make it right or wrong.

There are 2 DBs I can see them taking here and some IOL guys before double dipping at WR. I do think they take more than one in this draft, just don't see it here. But I get your logic as well. Honestly, I think Legette is going to go later than most people think. I think he is probably going to last until mid 2nd and would not surprise me at all see him on the board when we pick at 60. He is an intriguing prospect no doubt, just don't think he is going as early as people think. I would absolutely take him at 60 though if he was there.

I have a hard time seeing Cardinals take another WR here with all the issues they have. They may very well take another WR, but not this high after using the 4th pick on MHJ. This draft is sooo deep at WR, no need to ignore all the other major roster issues to double up this early IMHO.

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That is a disgusting amount to pay for a non QB. And they may be the next great tandem or he could be the next Sammy Watkins. Your trade proposals are always so extreme and unrealistic. There is 0% chance Beane is paying that for a WR in what is probably the deepest and richest WR draft in history.

As I said in follow up clarification that its top heavy. The OP is proposing we move Dawkins maybe for more ammo to trade up and get a WR. So we would not be in play for the top heavy prospects in the OP's scenario as that would be used to get a WR. So I don't want to be fishing around after the drop off for an OT late day 2 or worse day 3 to now protect our quarter of a billion dollar QB.

I meant at OT...Isn't it top heavy and then takes a drop? I mean if we are going WR early, I don't want to be fishing for a tackle on day 2 or 3 to protect our quarter of a billion dollar QB. I could be wrong, as busy as I have been this year I haven't spent a lot of time on the positions I am not expecting us to be in the market for on draft day, at least early. So I've mostly focused on WR, secondary, and DL.

Yeah, securing a WR1 on a rookie deal for the next 4 to 5 years of Josh's prime would be such a major advantage right now for a team who has a highly paid QB. I mean this may the best draft ever to be in the market for a WR, and no one says we can't draft 2 early either to double up on our chances to make sure we get a WR1. There is something to be said though for a "sure thing", a young known commodity. But, that comes with a hefty price...it will maybe cost more both in acquisition cost (multiple premium picks potentially) and certainly massive difference in cap space in terms of compensation moving forward. But, you also have the piece of mind your elite QB has weapons moving forward. For me, I think the only 2 players I would consider trading for and having to carry the expense of paying WR1 money moving forward is Justin Jefferson and Aiyuk. If the Vikings were willing to take say our 28th pick in this draft and their 2nd back next year that we got in the Diggs trade (which was originally theirs), then you have to consider that. Even though his contract will be huge, he is probably the best WR in the NFL right now and could be even better with Allen at QB. Aiyuk is looking for a big deal too, if we say could get him for our 2nd this year and maybe a pick next year, its again something to consider although maybe not as tempting as Jefferson given Jefferson has already proven to be top 3 WR in the game, and arguably the best. I still prefer to stick to the draft and go get that stud on a cheap deal for these next 4 to 5 years because it will overall make our team better having so much more cap space available to build the rest of the roster. This draft is maybe the best one ever to be looking for a WR and with 10 picks in this draft, they can certainly take more than 1. There are guys who will go on day 3 that are going to be damn good WR's in the NFL.

This is a top heavy OT draft, we aren't moving Dawkins to get a WR early and then go fishing late day 2 or day 3 after the fall off in the draft at OT to get one to protect our quarter billion dollar QB.

No on Higgins. He is a very good WR2 but wants top end WR1 money. What people keep forgetting is that this is a historically rich and deep WR draft. You don't give up a lot ahead of this draft for a WR unless you are getting back an elite player. Higgins is very good, but he isn't so good that you pass up having WR's on rookie deals for 4-5 years to overpay Higgins to be an underwhelming WR1. Just my 2 cents in regards to Higgins. IMHO Aiyuk > Higgins and I would feel better about a trade for Aiyuk than Higgins. Aiyuk I think can do what Diggs did here, reach a whole new level playing with Allen. Higgins reminds me of when Peerless Price got traded to the Falcons just to find out he was better suited as a top end WR2 next to another great WR and not really ever meant to be a WR1. Higgins is probably a better player than Price, just using that example of a team that over paid both in trade compensation and contract for a guy who wasn't best suited to be the man.

So this thread title is confusing to me...is there anything actually linking us to Aiyuk interest? Title reads like we are, but I don't see any news about it anywhere.

You should. I honestly think he could end up being the best WR of the 3. The dude just goes gets the ball. IMO he is the most complete WR in the draft top to bottom. Now that doesn't mean he can't still be a bust or what not, I mean the NFL is littered with guys who either never were as good as they were hyped to be (Like Jerry Jeudy for example) or just were a total bust. But as we sit now, I feel like he is the most complete WR in the draft. I like Nabers too, he reminds of Diggs TBH. But if both guys were on the board and the Bills were on the clock, I would take Odunze, I think he brings more to the table in Buffalo because he will still be as dangerous in bad weather as good weather. His ball skills are the best in the draft IMHO.

I have a crush and hope (sliver of a hope) that somehow Odunze/Nabers slips into the teens. I think for it to happen, a series of things probably needs to happen. First, we need a big QB run in the first 15 picks, at least 4 and probably 5 would be better. Second, we need Bowers to go before Odunze. Third, we probably need a WR need team to foolishly fall in love with Worthy's 40 time and take him over Odunze/Nabers. But I do think both go in the top 15, so that brings me back to Thomas, but I don't think a trade up comes into Beane's radar on him until maybe 20, possibly late teens. I would think though that if Odunze/Nabers got past say 15, then he might start making some calls on a bigger move up. I don't know he trades up for anyone else TBH. So many options will still be there at 28 at that point.

I believe 2 things: 100% there is relief in the building. I don't doubt for a second that team top to bottom appreciates Diggs and what he brought to the team for 4 years, but I am sure they are also now feeling relief that they don't have to face the same repetitive questions and attempts by the media to get click bait stuff on Diggs every time they step to a mic. Honestly, the main reason the Bills have been in the media as much as they have the past couple years is the constant attempts to sew discontent between Allen and Diggs relationship and Diggs and Bills overall relationship. They won't have nearly as much coverage this year, there is no drama narrative to force constantly. I also think Allen fully appreciates everything him and Diggs accomplished, but realizes this team plays better when we spread the ball around. So I think Allen is going to enjoy going into each game not having to worry about how Diggs feels. We all know Diggs is CONTENT when winning and not getting the ball, but never truly happy. So if this season has some ups and downs and Diggs isn't getting the ball enough in those downs then he was going to be an issue. Now Allen doesn't have to think about it at all...just go out and make the right decisions. Calling it now: Josh Allen will put up another MVP candidate season and we will see him having more fun again like he used to.

He only drops sure TD passes HA. But yeah, on the other hand though he still has a high catch rate by the nature most of the throws to him are short. But it is maddening when he dropped I believe 4 sure fire TD's this year. Haha spot on

Doesn't he want to get paid this year though? I mean if we can get him here with him playing on his $7M deal, then great, I have watched a lot of him since my wife is a die hard niners fan and I think he is a stud. But everything I have heard in regards to the issues in SF is that he wants to be paid now, and that is why I said we can't afford him. And as much as I do like Aiyuk, I wouldn't give up a bounty for him either. This is an insane draft for WR's, we could land one on a rookie deal for 5 years that has more upside than even what Aiyuk is. No guarantess obviously when it comes to draft picks, but the allure of getting a stud WR1 on a rookie deal the next 4 to 5 years of Josh's prime would be HUGE for us cap wise. But hey, I am all for getting a sure thing in Aiyuk too, just don't give up both the farm and a ton of future cap space during a historically deep and rich WR draft.

We can’t afford him.

One more thing I just thought of...I bet Josh Allen, McD, Beane, and the other players are going to be happy they won't have to keep getting asked the same repetitive stupid questions about Diggs, him and Josh's relationship, etc etc. I think not having that energy around the team will help get this team back to having fun again.

Wait, are you sure? If that is the case, then trading Diggs was a great move as we only lose an extra $3M this year above what he was already gonna cost us. So are you saying that essentially we got Diggs and his contract out of here for just a $3M additional cap hit this year and then we get cap relief next season? Because all I have seen is that he carries another dead cap next year of like twenty something million because we restructured him last year. I mean I hope what you are saying is correct, that would be awesome

I love McConkey, and if we somehow landed McConkey and also one of Mitchell, Coleman, or Legette I would lose my mind. I also really like Pearsall.

He is going to go after a WR early...and he has always been aggressive to get what he wants and needs. That does not mean it will be at 28. Would not surprise me to see us trade back and try and add another 3rd and then double dip on WR's with one off the small trade back and use one of the 3rds on another promising prospect.

That is not enough to get into the top 8 and no way we should spend what it would take to get to the top 8 in this draft, that is QB level trade compensation. Not to mention this is the best and deepest WR draft maybe in draft history. Now if Odunze or Nabers slips into the mid to late teens, then I think you consider giving up our first next year (not also a 2nd) and go get them.

Dont get me wrong, I am all for a WR. But here is the reality...after you get past MHJ, Nabers, Odunze, and Thomas...the next 7 are all lumped together and everyone has a different opinion of the pecking order from 5-11...and that is most often made up of: Mitchell, Coleman, Legette, McConkey, Pearsall, Franklin, and Worthy. Then there are guys outside of them that many people have listed inside the top 10 still. Point is, it is what Beane and the Bills scouting staff have as draft grades. How many of the guys outside the big 4 does he have a first round grade on? As fans, sure there are guys we would take, but most those same fans are looking at it from WR or nothing mindset. For example, Legette is talked about by some as the 4th or 5th best WR prospect...most have him between 8 and 10...and still some more have him in the teens. He is a guy that could sneak into the 1st round and a guy that could fall to us in the 2nd. If Beane sees him as a mid 2nd guy, he isn't taking him at 28 and literally said so today, same he has always said as well. Another example, I really like McConkey and I think he could be one of the best WR's to come out of this draft 5 years from now. BUT...do the Bills see him as a first rounder? Is he the style of WR they are targeting? Lots of question marks when it comes down to what WR's Beane will have on his board he is grading high enough to take 28. So...don't get me wrong, I am all in on getting a WR, even on board trading up to get one. Just saying, if Beane can get a higher graded player at 28 then still land one of Mitchell, McConkey, Legette, Coleman, Franklin, Worthy, Pearsall, etc in the 2nd then that would be a great move still too.