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Its funny how rent free I live in your head. I do think your little crush on me is cute though 😘

Huh? You disagree then repeat verbatim word for word what I have said multiple times now. I don’t get it. I said Keon has only run with the ones. You said that is not true but then follow up with well if you mean he hasn’t run with the twos. Of course that’s what I mean, it’s literally verbatim what I said. I also said multiple times that Hollins and MVS have gotten snaps with the ones but have not exclusively run with the ones as they have spent time with the twos also. And that isn’t breaking news, it’s no different than any other team where WRs that are going to see snaps in the regular season in packages or as primary backups.

And I am basing it on the coaches employed by the Bills who make these decisions and their actions. So I respectfully disagree. The coaches have shown there isn’t by the fact that Keon is and has been an exclusive starter and Hollins has not at any point. Again, no biggie. I just have more confidence in what the coaches do and say then what someone people paid to talk and speculate do. And to be fair and more clear…I do think this season is going to be less about “starters” and more about packages. Which is why I think you are seeing guys like Hollins and MVS get time with the ones as they will be out there in different packages this season.

No need to even revisit it…maybe one of the most unnecessary debates of the season and why I offered many times to just agree to disagree. But I do agree with your premise and post. But like I said, the topic itself isn’t even worth revisiting for anyone and think an agree to disagree is more than suitable resolution.

Again, you don’t even know if it is a competition. Hollins getting reps also with Allen does not make it a competition. Keon has been all through camp and preseason a starter. 100% of all reps, not a single snap with anyone other than the ones. Hollins has not. If anything, Hollins is vying for reps on the other boundary where Samuel may come off the field instead of Samuel lining up on one of the boundaries. And you originally said Hollins was ahead of Keon…now it’s they are in competition. You’re not even providing a cohesive complaint, let alone providing any evidence that supports either complaint. Again, free to your own opinions, but I still think it’s irresponsible to just say things as if they are true when you admittedly don’t know they are and when there is clear evidence that it isn’t accurate.

Except he is not playing ahead of Keon. And you are just ignoring everything else like the literal fact that Keon has started both preseason games and literally taken 100% of all snaps with the ones since day 1 of camp. Not to mention, Keon has one of the best camps on the team as well, not like he has been struggling. But hey, that is your right and choice to make what ever leap in logic about Hollins getting some reps with Allen you want. Just find it odd you just doubled down on it after literally just saying you don't actually know if Hollins is playing ahead of Keon. So you are basically just creating your own scenario here to which all actual evidence fully contradicts including Keon starting both preseason games, including the 2nd one when they both played, and Keon taking all snaps, reps, walkthroughs, etc as the starter since day 1 camp, something Hollins has not done. And then complaining about that scenario as if it were true, again despite the fact you just said you don't know it to be true and all existing evidence suggesting its not true. And I mean no disrespect, but you are being a bit irresponsible going around claiming Hollins is ahead of Keon when you can't support that claim nor does any of the evidence support it either.

I didn't realize Jeremy Lin was a 2 sport star and didn't just play basketball 😂

I really want to say no...but we have also bought Josh Allens cereal...and that isn't even an impulse decision while standing in a grocery store since we are in CA and it is not in stores here...we had to consciously look for it and order it online...lmao

It really is unreal how this is lost on so many people.

***Disclaimer*** - I am NOT defending Trubisky. If anyone has read my ALL-22 reviews, I have shredded Trubisky and repeatedly said he sucks. Now that we have that out of the way...Here is why I do not think that Beane will make a trade. He was hurt in the 2nd preseason game, and they are going to give him some benefit of the doubt that part of his struggles had to do with that. And I think they will lean more on their overall feeling he has had a good camp as guys like Brady, Allen, etc have mentioned in interviews. Teams don't like to make moves at QB this late as its a lot to learn, even for a backup who could play on any given snap, unless they feel they must make a move or have to due to injuries. Personally, I don't care a whole lot who the backup is. In fact, if I am being totally honest, I say go with the worst backup. If we lose Allen, this team is toast...so give me the guy who will lose us the most games in a lost season to get the best draft pick. Can you imagine the draft power we would have with a high pick in every round to go along with an extra 2nd and two additional 4ths we already have? The wost thing would be to lose Allen and then still win 7 or 8 games. Like lets lose lose lose if Allen goes down and ramp up the ammunition for top of the draft talent next year.

I personally don't think Miami is a better team than the Jets. If Rodgers stays healthy the whole season and can stay upright behind the OL, then I do think they are the top threat in our division. So I have a hard time seeing Miami finish ahead of them personally as Miami has in back to back years, with a fully healthy Tua both times had a 2nd half season collapse. They only have 2 wins in 2 years against teams over .500 and one was against us when we had 15 players either hurt or out for heat issues and still we almost won the game if not for 1 second of the final play clock..and the other was against another pretender in Dallas. Now this year Miami has been gutted in their front 7 of the defense, so this overall roster has less talent on it than the 2 previous Miami teams IMHO. Now add in that the AFC is even more loaded right now. You still have KC, Buf, Hou, and Balt in each of the 4 divisions...plus now you have the return of guys like Burrow, Rodgers, and Richardson as well. Then you still have teams like Browns, Steelers, Jaguars, etc that should all contend for the playoffs themselves this season too. For me, I just think its more likely someone like Miami takes a step back given how they have performed the past 2 years and facing a stronger AFC with a roster that lost more than they gained this offseason. And for that, I think the Jets are more likely to finish in the top 2 than Miami.

I think right now, Keon has clearly had one of the best camps of any of the WR's in the NFL thus far. He has been short changed a bit in preseason with bad QB play, but his All-22 tape has been impressive. Legette also literally stated he wished he "studied harder" in terms of the playbook when he got to camp. And for a guy with big question marks about being in college 5 years and doing nothing for 4 of them with one breakout season, that isn't a good way to start. Worthy didn't have a great camp though, he was dinged up early, then struggling heavily with press coverage and he still only caught 3 of 6 passes that game. Agreed, the speed burst there was impressive, but also keep in mind he was up against the backups on defense that were significantly slower than him on that play as well, so he should be blowing past those guys. I do think Worthy is in an excellent position though for him there in KC, probably the best place for him to have landed. Not only does he have elite offensive HC and QB, but he does not have to be the man there, he will likely be at best the 4th target in the offense behind Kelce, Rice, and Hollywood (barring injuries). They can move him around and find ways to get him off the line cleaner and use that speed. Had he gone to a team where they needed him to be the starting X WR with hopes of him establishing himself as a true WR1 then I suspect he would have more trouble adjusting to that given his light frame and lack of strength. His speed is elite though, which is why heading into the draft I felt like the best fits for him were in situations where he didn't have to be the primary target like he is in KC or a team like say Dallas.

Well I don't think its about what the scouts saw as it was more that he fell so far...so value in terms of lower risk investment with high reward potential was probably more the factor as to why they drafted him. I mean if they saw much more in him, Broncos would have taken him sooner. I know when he fell out of the 2nd round word started spreading he had bombed his interviews. I think the alleged reasons were questions about his passion or commitment to the game or something like that if memory serves me correctly.

I disagree its a problem. I think the bigger issue is a lot of fans haven't accepted that Hollins is not Shefield...he will play a bigger role in the offense. He is a very good blocker and that is an important aspect to the offense and really the only positive commodity we lost in Davis leaving. But more than that, he is a capable WR out there and has been showing that during camp, so its not like he will only come in on obvious run situations only. Now you factor in he has missed a little bit of time, so of course they are going to keep mixing him in and getting reps with the 1's because he is going to be getting relevant snaps this season, so he needs to develop timing and rapport with Allen and the ones because that is who he will be playing along side when he is out on the field. So how does anyone like Chris Brown or Tasker expect Hollins to build chemistry with Allen if he doesn't get enough reps with him? So IMHO, I think they are reading too much into the fact that Hollins is getting reps with Josh. Its not at all an indicator of how they feel about Keon. In fact, all that Beane, McD, Brady, Allen and even other WR's have done is gush about where Keon is right now, how much he already understands for a rookie, how far along he is. There has been literally zero indications of any kind that they feel Keon isn't ready or where he should be right now. Respectfully, I don't think what so ever that the rotation of Hollins into reps with Allen has anything to do with how they feel about Keon. And unless every coach, player, reporter, and observers are lying about how well Keon has been playing thus far, then I think its pretty safe to say they feel pretty good about where Keon is right now too. Furthermore, Keon has exclusively, 100% of the time, run with the ones since the start of camp through now, including both preseason games. They are not treating him like a guy who is behind anyone on the depth chart, and they don't do that unless they are firmly in that slot. And of course...none of that means anything in terms of how well he will or won't play come regular season, just talking about what he has done on the field, off the field, in the team meetings, etc thus far.

Since when is Keon behind Hollins? They haven’t released a week 1 depth chart.

I do like what I have seen in camp and preseason from some of our deeper guys, but they are still untested with only Rasul and Benford proven players. I am not saying they won't trade Elam, but I do feel like he is playing well enough that they may prefer to keep him this year given it leaves them with a lot of mystery behind Rasul and Benford in the event of an injury. And its a defense already trying to adjust to a whole new group of safeties and life without Milano too.

Personally, I think Shakir would go much higher than Dotson even right now. I watch or listen to a lot of sports talk shows...not the Stephen A Smith kind of garbage either. Good shows where they regularly have guests that include current and past head coaches, GM's, players, etc. And when they are talking about the Bills this year, they almost always talk about how good they think Shakir is, loving his game, etc.

At first I thought I would as I read it quickly and thought it was him getting traded for a 5th...then as soon as I read it again and realized it was a 3rd...nah, I wouldn't pay that price for what essentially would be a backup WR because as you said he is a bit redundant with Shakir and Samuel here, who I think are both better players anyway. I would be open to a trade that pushes MVS off this roster though because I am not looking forward of having to refrain from throwing things at my TV when he puts on a drop clinic to put even Davis to shame.

Depends on how much full go practice time Edwards gets in before week 1. If its very little, then I can see them still going with Hamlin, at least to start on week 1.

CB is maybe our thinnest position on the whole team right now. We don't have a single proven player behind our starters.

Geezus

You didn't answer the question I asked...as usual. But don't bother...Ive seen this movie before and its not worth the time investment.

Dude...come on. No disrespect, but how many times do I have to say we are not discussing ANY evaluations by me, you, gunner, or any one specific person. What is being discussed is the entire fan base and what the most common negative reaction to Keon has been...which is they believe him to be too slow. I clearly know that 40 times do not matter significantly in separation, I have been preaching that to the "he is too slow" crowd all offseason. I will accept this as progress...I mean I have been referencing the entire fan base the entire time. For the love of all things, can we please move on from this incredibly unnecessary conversation

Again, we are talking about the entire fan base. You realize this board doesn't even represent 1% of the fan base right? You realize that even the majority of this board over weights the importance of the 40 time every year right? You realize that even the NFL knows this and why the 40 is the most covered and talked about event at the combine because of it. You realize coaches even reference this in interviews and things talking about how too much is made about the 40 all the time. This is the same country that believes memes over verifiable facts. But you think I am being unreasonable by saying the casual fan (which is the majority) over values the 40 times? See above...I do not at all agree with this and it shows up every year in every medium that covers the draft, combine, etc.

Ok...so now it must specifically say "40 time"? You are just going to ignore every refence of him being slow, calling him Kelvin or Funchess to..wait for it...say he is slow. The issue for the 40 time was that it was slow. And if you think for one second that the most common reason people think he can't separate isn't because they think he is slow, then I don't even know what to tell you. For the 100th time...we can agree to disagree.