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I like him more than you do and have him more as a 3rd rounder, but given we don't have a 3rd and its nearly the 3rd now, this doesn't feel like much of a reach for me based on my opinion of him. I can see why you would see it as a reach if you like him less, just saying my personal opinion on him has him a bit higher than you. We also don't pick again until the 4th, so I think how Beane has the remaining corners graded and the expected positional drop off from this point on to then is going to be part of consideration on what he would do now. And this is also where a trade back could come into play as well if he felt we could get value moving back and still landing one he is targeting on the trade back.

Riley would be a good pick here, don’t understand how he isn’t getting more traction with the glaring hole we have at corner.

Why do we keep voting so much for Tre Harris? He doesn’t even seem like a legit option for us let alone who we would select. He ran the same 40 time as Coleman did at his pro day and one of his knocks in his lack of explosion off the line. The team needs a vertical threat, a take the top off the D player. Not saying he isn’t a good prospect for someone, but he doesn’t fit what we expect the Bills to be after at WR for our team needs.

This thread gets started like every 6 months. That being said Moulds is the answer. Evan’s would be my 2nd choice who would just go off with Allen.

Wait, are you saying he HAS been in for a private workout??? That would be great if so, last I checked I couldn't find any record of us meeting with him at all, so I was hoping something would come out confirming a visit, workout, or at least a zoom or something. Im not sure he gets to us in the 4th despite his projections, so I wouldn't hate moving up from our first pick in the 4th to go get him in the 3rd even. Or, if a trade down happened from 30 like what was proposed in the TSW Mock Draft Poll (it came in 2nd to taking Grant in that mock) and netted us a 3rd in that move, I would be fine using that 3rd on him.

Yeah if it was a WR here, I agree Royals is more interesting than Harris. I can't see it being Harris, his 40 was the same as the one Coleman ran at his pro day. We need a vertical speed threat, that isn't Harris whose knocks also include a lack of explosion off the line. Not saying Harris doesn't have NFL potential, he just isn't the type of WR we need or should be looking for. I voted Burch too, although Collins would be good too. I would rather go after someone like Donte Thompson later at WR (6'5" with 4.3 speed)

“Another” move in 48 hours? What was the first move lol?

I personally think the board in the 2nd is going to look a little better on draft day than the way it fell here. But that being said, we don’t necessarily need to trade down from 30 to be able to be in position to move up from either spot on the 2nd, we have quite a bit of day 3 ammo to do it and still have all our picks next year too. I’m not against a trade back from 30, just depends on how the board falls. If certain guys aren’t there then I think we should trade back. But there also needs to be someone on the board someone wants to come up and get too that picks in a range Beane is comfortable sliding back to. I think if Jaxson Dart reached us (he won’t IMHO) like he did in this mock, it could make things interesting at our pick for a trade down.

I voted Burch for similar reasons

Well I’ve been talking about him before it was en vogue, and he’s still a big sleeper outside this board, so still a sleeper in my book I think the 3rd is a possibility too as I think after what BTJ did last year, with his size and speed, is only going to help increase his interest in this copy cat league. He’s not the same level of prospect, but teams are going to be very intrigued by his combo of size and speed I would think. That being said, seems low probability we will draft him as I haven’t seen or been able to find any links or confirmed meetings/calls with him and the Bills. Doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened, just hard to see Beane based on past drafts using a 4th on him if we haven’t met or spoken with him. So until I see we have, I’m unfortunately not expecting to hear his name called

WR - Donte Thornton 6'5, 4.3 speed, and good hands. His tape shows untapped ability IMHO above just being a vertical threat...but even if he ends up just being mostly that, its what we lack in our WR room right now. I think he could be quite the weapon in Buffalo. I would be fine taking him with one of our 4ths, assuming we didn't take a WR earlier and he is still there. He is projected more as a 5th...but you can't coach size and speed, so I have a feeling he doesn't make it out of the 4th round.

I dont think there is much chance we will actually draft Harris in this spot in the real drat, and I am not really sure why Harris is leading the vote here...he isn't exactly the type of WR we even need.

Didn’t you say to stay put and take Revel and if he’s gone then trade down? &nbsp And he was there….so more you preferred trade down over Grant, not that trading down was your preferred choice, that would have been Revel correct?

Yeah I tried moving up too as I was worried someone was gonna leap frog me for him. If saints come away with Mason at 9 and Dart at 40, that will be quite the value at both spots

With the 40th pick in the 2025 NFL draft, the New Orleans Saints select: Jaxson Dart, QB, Ole Miss We already had interest in Dart and considered making a move for him to come in and learn from Carr if he got into range. But with the unfortunate news about Carrs shoulder putting his season in jeopardy, we increased our efforts to unsuccessfully trade up near the top of the round. But once the board kept falling our way we decided to stand pat and trust our instincts and are thrilled to see him on the board. We love the combination of size and athletic ability that really makes him a modern dual threat type QB. Dart is coming off a college career full of eye popping performances, and we have admired his evolution from raw talent freshman to polished senior where he maintained his aggressive play style while reducing mistakes and turnover-worthy plays. We believe having someone like Carr to show him how to be a pro is only going to increase his potential and ability to reach it, and we look forward to getting him in here. We are thrilled to come out of these first 2 rounds landing great value at both the 9th pick, getting a top 5 prospect in DT Mason Graham, and now landing Dart at 40 without having to trade up. @gonzo1105 and the Bears are now on the clock... HIGHLIGHTS - Fun watch

Can we throw you in then while we are at it? 😂

I don’t think there is anyone on the board here worth that much and that’s a big over pay by the Bills too at the equivalent of a 4th round pick. Can’t see how this would make any sense for the Bills personally. Just my 2 cents Ha, all good…just yeah, that’s a big over pay by the Bills so just not personally a fan of us making that move and the not picking again until the 4th round.

Hard pass for me.

@frostbitmic I sent you a trade offer for this pick at 35

Have to admit...I came in ready to insta-click Grant...but the option to trade back 4 spots to 34 is really appealing given who is still on this board. I think I still have to go Grant, but I woudln't hate a trade back either. Your Jets trade is incorrect...has us trading 109 to get back pick 109

Oh yeah I get that, I was more just commenting about how you said you were surprised the trade up didn't get more interest...where I think the reason was likely the options in the poll were too expensive and lacked more appealing options using day 3 pick(s) to make a smaller move up. All good, these are fun regardless

As I mentioned before, IMHO it was overwhelmingly no because the options were costly trade up’s and left off the more likely trade up possibilities where Beane makes a small trade up using something like a 4th, like he has done multiple times. I voted no for these reasons and I think you would have had more interest if there had been some of those options where we use one or even two day 3 picks to make a move up while holding onto both our 2nds. Big move ups are less appealing this draft and have less value as the draft is light on the top end, but deep in those later first through the 2nd round type players with a lot of people with similar grades. So value isn’t there for a big move (unless someone surprising falls) and a small move up or staying out is both more likely and more appealing.

If the Giants were offering pick 34 for Cook, he would already be a Giant as Beane would fly him to NY himself for that. So I cant see that rumor as having any substance to it.

It should have been death with 30 years ago.

That has nothing to do with the fact his name is still hung on a wall where names are memorialized and celebrated for greatness. No he isn't, he is on the wall still for all to see. That doesn't mean having him on the wall for over 30 years since the murders wasn't a mistake. He murdered them over 30 years ago, not 15. He was a real monster who had a record of beating his wife before he also brutally murdered her and others. What he did on the football is now irrelevant. If Hitler was a soccer star before a monster, you wouldn't still have his name enshrined on stadiums. Another irrelevant comment...just because the degree of how they celebrate him vs other guys is different does not excuse the fact they are still allowing some sort of celebration of his legacy. My father was murdered when I was 18 years old. If some football stadium still had his killers name on the wall I would be disgusted and outraged. Leaving his name memorialized on the wall IS still celebrating and honoring him as a player when he no longer is worth of such an honor. If that was your daughter he killed, how would you feel about his name still being immortalized on the stadium for the past 30 years?