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You realize that Diggs has 2...just TWO more yards than Shakir right? You think that if the Bills had to go all out both 2nd halves week 2 and 3 he wouldn't have gotten one more catch for 2 yards? That is absurd considering he's been our leading WR. Sorry, if you want to shake your head in disbelief, then do it at your own response here. But I will give you the benefit of the doubt though that you were not aware it was just 2 yards that separate them...at least I hope you didn't know that before writing this post.

Well I think a pretty clear case can be made that Shakir has had a better season given he has the same yards on less catches and less opportunities thanks to blow outs. And you can also make a case that Coleman has been a more effective outside WR considering he is also averaging 6.6 yards more per catch than Diggs has averaged over Diggs last 14 games now and would at the very least have similar yardage numbers had we not had 2 blow outs where he played basically he only played 3 quarters over weeks 2 and 3 between the blowouts and his sitting out the first quarter for being late week 3. Then we still have the best start to a season Josh has had and his best 3 game stretch as well. But I agree we haven't proved anything long term yet, but Diggs having 2 more yards under the circumstances does not prove we haven't either.

I didn't say it was a burn...I said its a misrepresentation. Had the Bills had to play all out for all 4 quarters all 4 weeks like the Texans, not only would Shakir have significantly more yards than him, but Coleman almost certainly has more yards than him too and possibly Kincaid as well. So your comment is not quite the counter you think it is. Context matters.

2 yards more on almost nearly double the on field opportunities because of the context of the Texans vs Bills first 4 games. Hardly paints a picture of reality based on what you are implying with your statement. But all good, just disagree you fairly painted the picture with that statement.

I was only addressing this comment about Diggs about how he has more yards than our top guy. That really shouldn’t have even been in your post unless you’re gonna provide the proper context like it was just 2 yards more on relevantly more opportunities. Without the context it creates a false sense of reality of what that really means, which is nothing like that statement reads. It’s 100% factual that had the Bills been forced to play start to finish all four games, that not only would Shakir have noticeably more yards, but pretty good odds are Coleman would too. So to even mention Diggs has more yards (2) had really no value and wasn’t even worth mentioning unless you’re trying create a narrative to support an opinion. And your opinion is fine, just think that statement was a classic cherry picked comment to create a narrative that was unnecessary to the point you wanted to convey. All good, just my 2 cents

Ha forgot about this poll I posted a while ago. Agreed, a game like that poster described for each would be one you say they both had good games as individuals. But based on the fact Diggs is avg 9.3 ypc, a game like that feels less likely right now. Especially with Nico leading the NFL in receiving. Anything can happen Sunday, but I think it’s certainly in Allen’s favor right now especially coming off a game where they are looking to bounce back. What I’m more interested to see now since I first posted this months ago is who has the better game between Coleman and Diggs because I think this might be Coleman’s first breakout game coming off his mini breakout last week. I think Brady is going to don’t things this week…focus on getting back to effectively running the ball to open the pass game and look to get Coleman involved more and earlier to also open up the rest of the field. Personally I think Coleman could, or at least should, see a min of 7+ targets this week.

Yet Diggs averaged 8.9 ypc his last 10 games here too. 9.3 now in his first 4 in Houston. Meanwhile Nico Collins is leading the NFL in receiving.

That’s missing a lot of context. Houston has had to battle all 4 games start to finish. Bills had 2 pass attempts week 1 until 2 min left in the first half and then Allen went on to complete 18 total passes but to 9 different receivers while we scored 31 points in 31 minutes. Week 2 Cook took over and the Bills offense went on vacation the 2nd half. Week 3 Allen completed passes to 10 different receivers, scored 5 TDs on 5 drives, then again the offense took a vacation the second half. Through the first 3 games, the offense was on the field looking to pass just barely over 2 halves of football through 3 games and Allen hit 9 and 10 different receivers in those games. Diggs has 25 rec, 233 yards, 9.8 ypc, and 2 TDs. Shakir has 18 rec, 230 yards, 12.8 ypc, and 2 TDs. No disrespect, but these kind of comments are just misleading. Citing Diggs has more yards than our leading receiver creates a false positive assumption. Shakir in less opportunities has essentially the same yards and TDs on less catches. He’s clearly having a better season than Diggs at this point but you would not know that based on your very specific chosen phrasing. Coleman is averaging 15.8 ypc as well compared to Diggs 9.3 and he essentially played only a quarter week 3 after being benched first quarter and offense taking off the 2nd half. What Diggs is doing is Houston has little to no value for what our offense needs or is missing here. That doesn’t mean that someone else couldn’t help this team, it just means that Diggs having more yards is a completely irrelevant statement given the context of him have just 2 yards more despite significantly more opportunities through the context of their 4 games compared to ours.

I don't have an issue with the compensation of a 2nd, we have an extra one. I question he will be content and happy in our style of offense where he isn't being fed the ball constantly.

Thats the hope if you trade for him of course...but after getting rid of feed me the ball energy of Diggs, not sure Adams fits the locker room. What happens in a game like the Ravens game is happening and Adams has 4 targets because we are losing up front and the offense is out of rhythm again? Is he going to start complaining on the sidelines and showing frustration again like he does almost every game with the Raiders? That is the concern I think with him, if he isn't being fed the ball and we are struggling what does he do then? Again, I wouldn't hate him coming here, I even advocated for him last year. But this years approach is different, and not sure a guy like him isn't going to be the right fit as he will always feel he needs to be fed the ball. Which is fine if that is what you are pivoting to as an offense, but there is a case to be made that Josh is better not feeling the pressure to force a ball to someone.

I think Adams is one of the best WR's in football...but...are the Bills going to bring in someone who has complained about his lack of involvement during wins? A guy who keeps throwing his helmet and showing frustration on the sidelines more than Diggs ever did here? Maybe Adams would be on his best behavior here to be back with a stud QB like Allen, and I wouldn't be upset if we got him. But feels like a weird trade target given we just paid $31M to trade away a guy who created tension over his role in the offense that want's to feature everyone rather than focus on a primary receiver. https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/10/19/raiders-davante-adams-frustrated-by-role-despite-win-over-patriots- Again, I wouldn't be mad if Adams wound up on this team, I mean we all want a SB and bring on whoever helps us get there. But just not sure they are going to see him as the right fit for the locker room and philosophy. But man is still a beast on the field

Well then maybe that will help my fantasy team get out of last place because Mahomes is killing me on that roster lol.

2 catches a game as a starting WR for the Chiefs with Mahomes and Andy Reid makes him a "game changer"? Feels a bit extreme.

No, Tyreek Hill fell to the 5th round because he beat the crap out of his pregnant girlfriend in college. Same woman and kid he has since had domestic abuse allegations come up with since being in the NFL. Otherwise he would have been a much earlier pick.

If this is in season right now...I think the most probable answer is Safety given they have already mentioned Hyde again this week and if there was someone who was most likely going to be added, I think it's him.

Bledsoe would have shown up to the Roast of Bill Belichick in a wheel chair

Nah, Allen has lost a step I heard 😂

As others have said...I think this has Jets written all over it. And if not them, probably Steelers. And as I have said, while he is an elite talent, I do think his "I need the ball" attitude would be a bad fit for our teams chemistry right now here. He was upset after a win when he didn't get the ball enough last year. He gets pissed when he isn't getting the ball in games and vocally complains up and down the sidelines. While I would never rule it out, just seems like an odd fit after trading Diggs to bring in a WR who has openly complained and thrown fits on the sidelines a lot more than Diggs ever did even.

Ive been saying all offseason, this team is headed in a good direction right now. Most of our core players and starters moving forward are young and on the right side of 30. We have a lot of draft capital this next year, we won't have $31M in dead cap to a player who isn't playing for us, and the icing on the cake is we can get out of Von's deal this offseason. The biggest moment of our 2024 offseason was when Von just flat out took a pay cut and Beane did not need to rework his deal that would have prevented us from getting out of it this next offseason. Cap space...youth...3 additional picks in first 4 rounds plus all our original picks. I don't know what this year will result in, but next year we are really set up to be aggressive on building up our key weak points on the roster and putting the team in position to continue to be a SB contender/favorite for years to come. Honestly, I think we will own this division still a min of another 5 years assuming Josh stays healthy.

Oh I had some other words I wanted to spell out...just was trying to avoid warning points haha

Marino posted his review and he talked about the issues mostly being coaching on both sides of the ball that week. It was Brady's first real L as an OC here in 13 games and it was Babich's first L as a DC. Now its about how they respond, how they adjust and take what happened and figure out where they went wrong and put our guys in better position to succeed this week. I do really feel like we will see a bounce back game this week on both sides of the ball. It was a short week, on the road, against a tough opponent that really needed a win while we were also missing key players. Some things got rattled early on both sides and we just didn't really recover, and when ever we were starting to flip the momentum we would do something that shot ourselves in the foot.

This is why I kept telling people who just arbitrarily kept saying it was our receivers that were the problem that it was what was going on upfront that was killing us. The worst part about that game was we had a number of times where we were moving the ball on offense and looked like we were starting to get some momentum and rhythm and we had self inflicted mistakes kill it. Kincaid kills that first drive with a bad drop. Later Coleman torched his man on the outside and had him beat by 5 yards running down field for a would be TD by O'Cyrus just got blown up and gave up the instant sack on Allen to end the drive. Then there was the infamous trick play that Brady has owned up to as a critical mistake on his end. Then Coleman didn't catch that first deep shot. Penalties affected others. I came out of the game less worried about the offense as it was more execution and protection issues more than anything. Defense though had me a lot more concerned, but good to Marino feel like it was a coaching as that can be fixed. But I do think this defense really needs Taron and Bernard back and hopefully they are both back this week.

Week 1 - 9 guys caught 18 of Allens completions (and barely had the ball first half) and AZ went out to take Kincaid away Week 2 - Little passing, Cook dominated, took the 2nd half off Week 3 - 10 guys caught passes and again we took the 2nd half off Week 4 - The entire team crapped the bed top to bottom Totals are not going to tell anyone an accurate story on our season thus far. Our offense did not play much for most of a half all 3 games and of course self destructed in week 4. Now Brady is coming off his first dud and will likely make some adjustments. More concerning for me is how little usage and how little plan they seem to have for Samuel right now.

Are you talking about now in season or next year? When makes a difference as there will be a big cap space difference

Yeah, for the Ravens the game was as close to a must win as it gets this early in the season. Starting 1-3 with 3 losses to the AFC would have really put them in a tight spot rest of the season and they came out like it was a playoff game. That Henry TD run to open up just electrified that stadium and team and our guys just didn't seem to be up for the challenge to match the intensity. It was also a short week and coming off some big wins. Didn't help that we had not faced much push back or adversity really since a few mistakes first half week 1 where as Balt had already gone through some battles this year. But like I said above, its about how we respond that matters now. I expect to see some different things out of the offense this week, and if we are lucky I am hoping we can at least get Taron back this week and even better if Bernard too.