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The Bills need to keep Duke Williams
Alphadawg7 replied to transplantbillsfan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Good Night / Bad Night - Pre-season game 3
Alphadawg7 replied to GunnerBill's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Fair points, but I still think Foster would have gotten more snaps if he was battling. -
Yup, and this was the basis of my February thread too. At this point, contracts will not factor into who they keep. They are all cheap that are competing for a spot and it will be the guys they feel are best suited for the team.
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WR Competition - Snap Count Analysis game 3
Alphadawg7 replied to Alphadawg7's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I just dont see them giving up on Foster after how he played the last 7 games last year. He's a 2nd year player, cheap, and has more upside than other WR on this team. But hey, I never thought a guy like Karlos Williams would get cut either after his rookie year, but it was Karlos the man who got himself cut. So maybe Foster has rubbed the coaches the wrong way...but still I think they would have played him a lot more like they did Zay last night if he was on the bubble to try and boost his trade value. Just my 2 cents -
The only fantasy I see around here is your fantasy that Zay didnt drop passes
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Already been done in other threads...I did that work, and posted it already. Not gonna do it again...not trying to be a jerk about that, just I am about to leave for my fantasy draft. If you want to your notes, sure go ahead and happy to read later. Mine can be found on this board in the other thread.
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Good Night / Bad Night - Pre-season game 3
Alphadawg7 replied to GunnerBill's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Last night, Foster was in on 2 snaps. For me, I think this tends to lend itself more to that he is safer than people think. I could be wrong, but my reasoning on this is that if his roster spot was truly in jeopardy, they would have surely given him more snaps for 2 key reasons. Maybe just gave him less work to give others more snaps and also take it easy on his foot and not risk aggrivating it. Evaluation - If he needed to win a spot, seems after his strong end last year they would have at least gotten him consistent snaps with the 2's at the very least as he seems to be a "gamer" last year when on the field in live action. Trade shopping value - After Fosters 7 game stretch last year after coming back to the roster, he would certainly have some trade value. Getting him more reps out there to give some more opportunities to make some plays this preseason before shopping him would have made sense. So to me, I think his spot is safer than people think and its Zay whose role is really in jeopardy. If Zay was locked in, they wouldn't risk him with the 2nd and 3rd units in the second half of the 3rd preseason game IMO. But hey, this is all just a guessing game to how the coaches may be thinking...just my 2 cents. -
Sounds like someone needs to watch the video again..."uncatchable balls" LOL
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He won't get cut over cap savings...if he is cut/traded its because they feel someone else deserves the shot more than him. People keep bringing up his low pay while overlooking that guys competing for his spot are just as cheap. His contract has 0% relevancy right now on whether he makes this roster. The guy who suit up week 1 with notable contracts are literal locks for this roster, Brown and Cole. Everyone else is cheap too...so Zay will only be on this team if the staff deems they WANT to keep him over one of the other guys. LMAO...its on film dude. I laugh so hard at this unwavering insistent the FILM never happened when you can watch it right now. No offense, but you denying in game footage of him dropping passes is about the most absurd thing I have ever seen on this board. Its 100% indisputable...like literally 100%. Keep trying though, respect to the commitment of utter blindness.
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People keep bringing up the QB's...so are you saying its the QB's fault he dropped so many passes right in his hands?
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I posted this in the Duke thread, but thought this was more suited for the WR competition overall. This was interesting to read today as the 3rd preseason game tends to be the game that gives away the most information in camp/preseason battles. So here are my thoughts on what some of this MIGHT mean as obviously, no one really knows what the coaches are thinking. Duke - To me its clear they felt he deserved more time on the field and even got in with the ones and obviously with the twos. This is quite the climb in what was supposed to be a dress rehearsal, and he didnt disappoint. My Opinion: They liked what they saw of Duke and are seriously considering keeping him and Duke only helped those chances. He's really climbed up the depth chart, and I think he is going to make this team. I have no idea who will start opposite Brown, but it wouldn't surprise if he was in the conversation. Cole slashing the short and middle, Brown taking the top off, Duke as the sure handed possession guy and our TE's pressing the seams would make a very balanced and difficult offense to cover if they all do their jobs well. Zay - While Zay started with the ones, it seems like they aren't clear on what to do with him and I think they are really pondering both his role, and maybe place on this team. You don't risk a sure "starter" on the field in the 2nd half of a preseason game, especially when you have other guys to evaluate for the roster. My Opinion: Zay's "presumed" starter role is in serious jeopardy and may have already slipped out of his hands like a Josh Allen TD strike. And if he does officially fall out of the starter conversation, then his role and place on the team gets more shaky. And its possible they ran him in the 2nd half to try and get him involved to maybe try and boost some potential trade value too considering he had done mostly nothing in the first 2 games other than dropping a TD strike from Josh. McKenzie vs Ray Ray - I think this is a CLEAR indication that McKenzie has stepped out in front of Ray Ray with a nice lead. If they were still wavering on him, they would have given him more snaps in this battle. I don't see Ray Ray making this team right now as McKenzie has outplayed him in the games after Ray Ray had the more impressive camp. My Opinion: McKenzie makes the 53 over Ray Ray, assuming they keep enough WR's to merit keeping either. Robert Foster - For all the bubble talk for him, I think the snap count actually lends itself to possibly suggesting he's safer than some think. If he was fighting for a roster spot I just don't see them only giving him 2 snaps in the 3rd preseason game. For a guy that was a gamer last year, if they were starting to waver on him, I would think they would give him a lot of snaps for 2 reasons: To better evaluate him and also potentially showcase him for a trade as he would have trade value (rather than just cut him). My Opinion: Foster's seat isn't as hot as Zay's, but his role is still up in the air for sure and he's not safe. Everyone else: None of the other guys will be on this roster week 1. Cam Phillips had a strong camp, but Duke was the one moving up the depth charts the last 2 weeks and getting runs in with the 1's and 2's. Several of the WR's will be legit PS candidates though and I expect at least 2 make it there, maybe more. My Opinion: Cam, Sills and Easley would be guys I would keep an eye out for the PS.
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Its all good...I edited but you replied before you got the edit. Didnt mean my first pass to sound snarky...was just trying to emphasize some points. But like I said, its all good.
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Zay is good enough to play in the NFL, but the question is if he is good enough to be a big part of an offense or is he better suited as a depth player. Evidence so far to me suggests he's more likely to be a JAG WR (Just Another Guy), which is fine and could still have a long career. As a Bills fan though, I would rather take a chance on a guy like Duke who seems to do something specific exceptionally well (High point balls, contested catches, red zone threat) versus a guy who is just average or below average at everything. At least then, you have a dedicated role for Duke where he could excel as a possession guy versus a guy thats unreliable with his hands and doesn't have a part of his game that he excels at...at least not yet. I mean he can still get better of course.
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Im not saying they should not keep Zay...you said no other WR could outplay him and cited Foster...yet Foster did out play him in the final 7 games. Zay not only had 2 TD's against Miami, but he also dropped a critical pass just before the Clay drop to end the game that basically cost us a win. So yes, he had multiple TDs, but you seem to forget he also helped us lose that same game. Then the other 2 TD game was in week 17 against a Miami team who mailed it in. If thats the best evidence to make his case in 31 career games as a starter, then thats not a strong foundation IMO. In 31 career games: No 100 games 22 games under 40 yards recieving Dropped the most passes on the team both years Has a horrible catch rate for his career
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All good brother, you own me nothing. All the disagreement was fair and warranted...it was always going to be a split subject. But at least now, no one can say it was crazy or meritless as just about everything I wrote proved accurate. Now whether or not that all equates to Zay being traded (or cut as some others suggested), is still up in the air. But at least my thoughts have been validated.
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Not so much a victory lap, more defending my honor haha. I mean people were in the shout box during this very game still saying I will never live that thread down lmao. I stand by that thread 100% regardless if Zay is on this team week 1 or not
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Zay had 4 against MIAMI. Pump the brakes.
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I hear ya, but if you recall the post...I said I thought Zay would be traded in preseason, not then the offseason. I made that post before Free Agency and I predicted we would bring in 2 to 3 new WR's, and we brought in 3 with Duke, Brown, and Cole. I said I thought he would get every shot at this team but would struggle to stand out against better competition. And if he slipped down the depth chart he could be a guy Beane would try and get some value for before being in a reserve role for a season would kill all trade value. Everything I suggested in February has pretty much gone that way so far. The only thing left, is will he be traded (or even cut, but I still doubt he would get outright cut). Brown took the top spot, Cole took the slot spot, and Zay has failed to lock down a starting spot and has not risen to the occasion anywhere during preseason and even dropped a TD last week and a first down this week with the ones. He still clearly has a shot to be a part of this team, but I think its proven out that the concerns I voiced then are still the concerns now and that his roster spot is not a lock.
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If only someone had suggested that possibility in February around here... I bet if someone DID suggest that in February, then everyone would say "no way", "that is crazy", "he had a great 2nd year", "thats just a LAMP post", "Your thread title is wrong" and people would suggest he will never live that suggestion down forever. Good thing no one suggested that...???
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Exactly. Josh threw a pass to Zay who didnt even make a play on the ball barely that should have been caught for a first down. Throws a strike to Cole for a first down who fumbled the ball away. I mean he only threw the ball 6 times lol. He was fine outside the one bad INT play trying to extend a drive for once, and honestly probably felt he had to press as his WR's were letting him down to that point and OL too with penalties. His game wasn't that bad and led an excellent 2 min drive for a score.
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Clowney Trending for some reason.
Alphadawg7 replied to MAJBobby's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Whoa, hope it happens today so I can move Sammy up my draft board and Mecole Hardman too before my big money draft tomorrow! -
IRONY - The same people who were screaming "Its only preseason, pump the brakes" every time Josh looked good...are also now saying "see I told you he sucks, look at the ONE PASS in a PRESEASON game". LMAO
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The Bills need to keep Duke Williams
Alphadawg7 replied to transplantbillsfan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
This was interesting to read today. Some or my thoughts and opinions after seeing this: Duke - Clearly they felt he deserved more time on the field and even got in with the ones and obviously with the twos. This is quite the climb in what was supposed to be a dress rehearsal, and he didnt disappoint. My Opinion: They liked what they saw of Duke and are seriously considering keeping him and Duke only helped those chances. I think he is going to make this team, and wouldn't surprise if he was in the conversation to start opposite John Brown which make the WRs difficult to cover...Cole slashing the short and middle, Brown taking the top off, Duke as the sure handed possession guy and our TE's pressing the seams. Zay - While Zay started with the ones, it seems like they aren't clear on what to do with him and I think they are really pondering both his role, and maybe place on this team. You don't risk a sure "starter" on the field in the 2nd half of a preseason game, especially when you have other guys to evaluate for the roster. My Opinion: Zay's "presumed" starter role is in serious jeopardy and may have already slipped out of his hands like a Josh Allen TD strike. And if he does officially fall out of the starter conversation, then his role and place on the team gets more shaky. And its possible they ran him in the 2nd half to try and get him involved to maybe try and boost some potential trade value too considering he had done mostly nothing in the first 2 games other than dropping a TD strike from Josh. McKenzie vs Ray Ray - I think this is a CLEAR indication that McKenzie has stepped out in front of Ray Ray with a nice lead. If they were still wavering on him, they would have given him more snaps in this battle. I don't see Ray Ray making this team right now as McKenzie has outplayed him in the games after Ray Ray had the more impressive camp. My Opinion: McKenzie makes the 53 over Ray Ray, assuming they keep enough WR's to merit keeping either. Robert Foster - For all the bubble talk for him, I think the snap count actually lends itself to possibly suggesting he's safer than some think. If he was fighting for a roster spot I just don't see them only giving him 2 snaps in the 3rd preseason game. For a guy that was a gamer last year, if they were starting to waver on him, I would think they would give him a lot of snaps for 2 reasons: To better evaluate him and also potentially showcase him for a trade as he would have trade value (rather than just cut him). My Opinion: Foster isn't in as much jeopardy as Zay, but his role is still up in the air for sure. Everyone else: None of the other guys will be on this roster week 1. Cam Phillips had a strong camp, but Duke was the one moving up the depth charts the last 2 weeks and getting runs in with the 1's and 2's. Several of the WR's will be legit PS candidates though and I expect at least 2 make it there, maybe more. My Opinion: Cam, Sills and Easley would be guys I would keep an eye out for the PS. -
It’s a bit funny to see so many over reacting and over exaggerating the game for Josh last night. It wasn’t remotely close to as bad some say. Zay blew a first down pass, Cole fumbled a straight dime first down strike by Allen, and he led us on an excellent two minute drive. He made a bad bad mistake on one throw, first one all preseason, and now some act like the sky is falling. I mean I have seen every top QB in the NFL make a poor throw like that trying to extend a play. It happens, no big deal. It becomes an issue when mistakes like that reoccur too often. He did it once all preseason...so let’s pump the brakes on the panic and over reaction off one pass. Plus, coaching staff clearly was focused on getting run game reps which meant Allen wasn’t given a chance to get a rhythm early, especially with drive killing drop by Zay and the 2 other turnovers. And Josh was probably pressing a bit on that INT too because he didn’t want to get off the field given the limited reps so far as he’s a gamer and it was a no risk preseason game. Hes gonna have a good season IMO.
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The Bills need to keep Duke Williams
Alphadawg7 replied to transplantbillsfan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
They will dress more than 4 WRs on game day and especially since one primarily returns kicks.