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Tell that to the people still whining and hating on Allen today because he didnt have a great statistical day Sunday lol

Lol. Get him bandit I dont give a damn about stats...I care about wins. Here is what I know about Allen. He leads NFL in 4th quarter comeback wins since 2018, and thats with missing 6 games (missing 4 games outright, and getting knocked out of 2 more games where he was driving us to put us ahead late in games (HOU last year and NE this year). He is one of the highest rated QB's in the 4th quarter overall. Bills are also 3rd in the NFL in Redzone efficiency, including 10th in the NFL in Redzone TD scoring %, and Allen is a big big part of that with his ability to punch it in himself. He is also the best QB in the NFL on 3rd and long conversions. This kid is a gamer. Fact. Now lets look at other factors around him... His top 3 WR's average 5'10" and 180 pounds, including two being 5'9" We are 2nd in the NFL in dropped passes, just one behind the top spot too His OC has been inconsistent all year, and down right terrible at times while also finding moments of greatness He has 9 new starters on the offense around him with only Dion being lone hold over starter He still just has basically a season and a half of starts under his belt from missing some games. He has a FA TE that missed most the season he has little time playing with and a raw rookie TE who seems to make the hard catch but drops too many critical easy ones We have a Kicker and ST unit that has literally lost us 2 of our games this year (CLE and NE) and did its best to try and lose us a couple others Bonus fact: Allen has the most TD's behind only Lamar since the NE game, with 21 TDs and 4 turnovers in that span...despite the challenges above So for me, its utterly absurd for anyone to be freaking out about Josh right now from a negative stand point. He has clearly taken some big steps this year, has proven to be at his best with the game on the line over and over again, and doesn't let struggles affect him. Having a full season with playoff experience (and possibly even playoff success) under his belt entering an offseason where Beane has $90M in cap room and some extra draft capital to address the need for more playmakers for Allen is OVER THE TOP EXCITING for our future regardless to how the rest of the season plays out. Allen is not even close to being done growing and improving yet, and neither is this team. GO BILLS!!!

People forget that Balt and Pitt have excellent defenses, Pats too and lots of very good QBs had subpar or bad games against those defenses this year. Its easy to say I want to see him do it against "good" teams because of that, but its also unfair to expect him to have good games against top 5 defenses, especially with the mediocre cabinet of weapons we have. I mean our top 3 WR's average out to 5'10" and 180 pounds right now. Add in, this team is young, we have 9 new players on offense, and our QB has just a season and half worth of starts in the NFL, and its not a shock we aren't having an offensive explosion against elite defenses. Especially when better offenses have struggled against them too. The key for me...is that through the struggles, our team keeps pressing forward and ups their play in the 4th quarter to keep battling. We should have won the NE game, and probably do if not for Josh getting hurt (even though we really lost that game squarely on ST) and we took the best team in the NFL down to the final play despite the fact our OL was a revolving door against the Ravens. What I have seen from this team...is an offense that is good enough to win against anyone in the NFL right now...and thats because our defense will help keep the games close and our offense and Allen especially are strong down the stretch in crunch time. End of the day...this season isnt about THIS season. This season was and is all about taking a big step forward, which we clearly have and are. If we go one and done in the playoffs, doesnt matter (although for the record I believe we will win in the playoffs and at least make the AFCC game). This season is already a big success, one offseason was not going to "finish" our build. This team is setup for long term sustainable success from a youth standpoint, cap standpoint, coaching and GM standpoint, and IMO QB standpoint. Now on the back of this season (wherever we finish), Beane can focus on rounding out the weaker spots on this roster, and clearly that is going include offensive weapons at the top of the list to help us take another offensive growth step next year.

Agreed. Be nice if people would not over react from one game. Every week there is some over reaction to something that happened in one game as if it’s chronic, been happening all year, etc. Let’s not panic over some big defensive plays by a great defense as if it’s now a chronic issue for Singletary.

I looked up “wet blanket” in the dictionary and this was the exact definition, word for word.

I voted no...because I wanted my answer to be as ridiculous as this thread.

Yes. /End thread. Is this literally the most unnecessary thread of all time on here? Its gotta be a contender

But how come no one edited the tweet posts to make sure everyone knows it’s not Duke the WR though?

Can we take just one loss...just one...without someone starting some stupid thread about getting a new QB? I mean we just took the best team in the NFL down to the wire. STOP.

I have no issue punishing the center later. I just don’t think there is anything wrong trying to a fool a team at the end of the half. And it’s all good, we don’t all have to always agree But I feel like people turn this game into a kiddie game too much and worry about players feelings too much.

That’s just it, that’s not the situation. This was end of half, game was not “over”. That’s the point. Any of the 22 players on the field half a**ing on a live play like that are choosing to put them selves at risk. So the OL needs to lineup prepared for an all out blitz, even if it doesn’t come. Just like the defense needs to be ready for a fake.

You are the one saying they don’t go all out on kneel downs at end of games. So of course no fumbles really. I’m saying if there was pressure it may happen more often. All good, we don’t have to keep going round and round. Bottom line, this wasnt end of game, it was a legal play, and Ravens did nothing wrong. BOTH teams should be lined up there ready to play a meaningful snap period. All this whining about a legal play is laughable to me. Some of you act like this is a pop Warner game in a church. Geezus, they are grown men playing a violent game for a lot of money. No excuse to not be ready in a opportune time for the offense to try a trick play to increase odds of winning a game.

I didn’t compare it, I mentioned it to show a QB can fumble while directly under center. It happens.

Josh Allen fumbled the ball on 4th and 1 against Dallas. Fumbled handoffs are rare like that but do happen. If it’s a one score game, both teams should be playing hard on a kneel down as the QB could fumble the snap, especially if he fears pressure from the D. It’s football, not patty cake. But end of half, the offense can and should be looking for any way to score still anyway. Defense better be ready and the OL better be ready for the D to take the play seriously too. Any player on that field not taking a play seriously is putting themselves in danger, that’s on them. Two score game, a kneel down at end of game should be a gentlemans walkoff. But I’ve always found it silly to surrender down one score where a mistake can still happen. So OL are somehow more fragile on a kneel down than on the goal line? Come on man. This is football, not a tea party. If you are on that field, you better be ready for contact at all times...period.

You can’t separate end of game with end of half. They are NOT the same play. Dude, these guy battle on goal lines. They aren’t defenseless unless they choose to be. That’s their choice, and it’s a bad choice. When did lineman become precious dolls that can’t handle contact?

I actually believe you Gunner, but you’re one of the few I would say that would say that.

BUT this was not the same thing...not end of a game. And these guys play a violent game, they are an injury risk every play. So I find this injury excuse a bit silly. Its a wide open game with time in the clock. Be ready as a defense...period. Anything else is being undisciplined and you deserve to be fooled.

It’s the same thing. The DL isn’t expected to come hard if the QB is signaling to set up for a spike. Again, it’s the defenses job to be ready...period. Everything else is just an excuse. End of game is different, but this was a love play. Be ready or get burned, end of story. Except it’s not, so there’s that too. May not be common, but it’s happened a few times the last couple of years. Then again, it’s pointless to discuss anyway, because this was NOT at the end of a game. Every single one of you whining 100% would have loved this play if McD did it and scored off it.

I’m sure I don’t have to tell you when lining up to spike the ball that the QB doesn’t actually have to spike the ball and it’s the defenders job to be ready for a fake too. I mean you gotta stop calling it a victory formation, it was not. ITS LITERALLY THE OFFENSES JOB TO CONEAL THE PLAY ON EVERY SINGLE SNAP OF FOOTBALL. (Not yelling, emphasizing). It’s the defenses job to be ready on every single play. Trick plays are fair game and their ability to work comes from NOT EXPECTING THEM. Its just ridiculous to whine about this. These are grown men playing a game for millions of dollars for a living. Again, all caps was not me yelling, just emphasizing those statements. It’s all good, but I totally disagree with the outrage on this play. It’s just silly. You haven’t been paying attention. There were several incidents the last couple seasons.

Come on, how is it any riskier than any other play? That’s total nonsense. If the defense takes the play off and isn’t ready in case of a fake then that’s undisciplined football and they got hurt by their own mistake. Period. This was not end of game, there was time on clock and game was in first half still with game on the line. Any defender not paying attention there is playing undisciplined football.

That’s victory formation at end of game. All bets are off when game is still in play. Teams do blitz kneel downs.

NOPE. You can’t have a Victory at halftime. It’s called “victory formation” when you’re kneeling to win. AT HALFTIME...you’re still doing everything you can to win. Sorry bud, you’re way out there on this one. All good

Except you missed a key part. This was NOT in any way shape or form a victory formation. Can’t have a victory at halftime ? Game was nearing halftime, not the end of the game. I mean this isn’t a pop Warner game at a church. It was a close game and a battle...offense should take every opportunity to surprise for a big play to either score or get into scoring position to add some points before half.

This isn’t all directed at your reply, but others too. My question is why is it an issue? I mean it’s literally the entire job of the offense to fool the defense on every single play. That’s why you make sure your defense is alert and takes no plays off. If the offenses sees a chance to get a big play and maybe get a score or get into scoring position in a tight game, then they should do it. The complaining on this by so many is comical to me. If McD did this and we got an extra FG or a TD, and it was the difference in the game, everyone here would be crowning him COY. This reminds me of when people complained in 2007 that the Pats were scoring too much. You don’t like it, play better. These are grown men being paid a gazillion dollars to play a game and for the purpose of winning games. Fans get so sensitive as if it’s 8 year old kids playing out there. Bottom line: Don’t take plays off and you got nothing to worry about. Treat every play seriously. I mean this wasn’t a victory formation, the game was very much in question as it was only half time. You better be ready for fake spikes, fake kneels, fake punts, etc. Really shocked at the complaining on this play. Kudos to Harbaugh for trying to catch us sleeping and maybe steal a late score.

Why are people upset? It’s silly to be upset that an opposing team tried a trick play. Your job as a defense is to take each play seriously for just this reason. It’s the offenses job to fool the defense literally on their intentions every single play Of every single game. Pretty silly for people to be upset about it. A kneel down is a play like any other and by no means does it require to actually kneel down. If you can catch the opponent sleeping and surprise them and maybe score then good for you, do it. If we did this play successfully, everyone would be raving about instead of complaining