Alphadawg7

Funny, I actually think he will be in this league soon. And honestly, he might do pretty good in the XFL. NFL is just too fast for him, but speed of the XFL could be just about the right spot for him to succeed. I would actually love to see it...dont EVER want to see him in an NFL game again though, its too much for him. I actually think someone like EJ Manuel could surface next year too. XFL has to find a way to get better QB's in there, so I feel like there will be an all out press once this season is over to find more former NFL QB's to go along with some guys who don't get drafted this year. I think some guys like Peterman may look to the XFL as a place to maybe get a chance to play and catch on somewhere back in the NFL with more opportunity after seeing how much buzz PJ Walker is getting for carving it up already. A guy like EJ who is still young enough to play may look for one more run as an on field QB rather than stay retired. I expect as free agency and draft shapes the QB depth charts this offseason, some guys may see the XFL as more attractive given the strong start to the league and buzz its capable of generating if you are having success.

Nah, you get to pull your own links. You care so much about it, do your own due diligence.

DE, TE, OT. I have several I would be quite happy with at each spot. But if we can land 2 at those positions, it would really open up what we can do in the draft.

You weren't paying attention then. Shoutbox was upset, plenty of people complained in threads. People said he was too slow and too small over and over again. There were WR's and other players people wanted there and were upset we didnt take them like Hakeem Butler. If you want to prove the lack of outrage, go right ahead and go through the shout box archives and thread archives. I personally do not care enough to waste time digging it up, but I know it happened.

I think 17 games is unnecessary. Its going to diminish all the records established at 16 games. I get 16 games did the same to the record books when it was shorter seasons too, but that was the early years of the league. Its been 16 games so long, whats the point of adding a 17th game other than a cash grab? How does it make the league a better product? Looking at the seriousness of CTE cases, including looking at a guy like Reed in Washington who has been in concussion protocol for over 6 months and missed a whole season from it, adding more regular season games seems like a bad move. If they want more games, expand the playoffs to include enough teams to do one more round of the playoffs. Have a week where 2 teams from each conference play each other to make the playoffs as the last seed. Why subject the whole league to an unnecessary 17th regular season game? As a fan, I am all good watching a 17th game...but removing my selfish biased to watch more football, I think a 17th game brings nothing of value to the league other than more money to an already immensely rich and successful league that doesn't need the money. It puts players at further risk...adds one more reg season game to get hurt in before the playoffs...and it skews the record books. I would pass on this and focus on getting more teams in the playoffs and one more playoff round where 4 teams play for the final 2 spots of the playoffs.

Ive learned to trust Beane and McD. These guys have done quite well moving around the draft and picking the right players. If we get to pick 22 and they feel he is the absolute best player on the board, then I won't freak out. Now do I think its going to be him? No, I still think its a 2 position race between DE and WR with our first pick in round 1. I could see a trade down if their top choices are off the board, especially with how deep WR is. I could also see a small trade between say 15 and 21 if a guy they absolutely covet slips to that range. You're not wrong, lots of people on this board were trashing that pick left and right. Same with the Knox pick. It was funny watching all the outrage, especially since I thought both picks were fairly obvious based on the lead up to the draft. Several of us called the Devin pick before it was in and same with Knox, neither was really a surprise if you followed who they showed strong interest in leading up to draft. Yet a bunch of people acted like they were blind sided and both were terrible picks.

Yet he’s gonna put up 1200+ yards next year somewhere. Book it.

Huh? How exactly does adding more receivers destroy Josh Allen? This statement makes no sense

That’s where I am at. Absolutely will go to more games, but watching on TV won’t be something I likely plan around. I play basketball every Saturday at the park (or in a HS gym we rent on the occasional rain days) from 11 until 2 or 3pm. Then showered and lunch, so won’t typically be around to catch Saturdays. If i got nothing to do on a Sunday and my girl is off doing something else, sure might throw a game on. But I’m usually doing other things on Sundays, so don’t see me planning around an XFL game unless it’s to go to the game. Now if going to the games makes me a big Wildcats fan or something that could change.

Had a blast last week at the Wildcats game here in LA. Was gonna go this week, but had something else come up. I haven’t really watched it on TV yet as I had other things going on, but live at the game was a lot of fun.

You realize there is more than just next year this move impacts right?

No offense, but I don't think you really know what the situation is there. They have to eat that contract longer than that, and they want to resign Drake. He has a big contract left, its not one year. They need to move him so they can sign Drake. David Johnson is essentially their 3rd RB right now (if they resign Drake like they want), and yet still one of the highest paid RB's in the league. No way they way they are paying Drake while still paying DJ top 5 RB money to be 3rd on the depth chart. And while you say a rebuilding team wont do this...well a rebuilding Houston Texans team did a few years ago in 2017 to get rid of Brock Osweilers contract. And they paid a 2nd round pick to do it and cash. And there is talk a couple teams could go down this road to get rid of bad contracts this offseason.

I just don't see us bringing in 3 relevant WR's. Sure, more will get added for camp bodies, but I am talking guys who legit are competing for a spot. I really think its going to be 2 at most and then they will look at TE, RB, and OL to help bolster the rest of the offense. At the end of the day, 3 WRs are near roster locks in Smoke, Cole, and Roberts (who just made another Pro Bowl as a KR). They aren't trying to go 7 WRs on the active roster come week 1. So they really are looking for a starter next to Smoke and Cole in either a top WR rookie prospect or an important trade (Diggs) or free agent signing (AJ Green). Once they have which ever one of those, they will probably add another rookie in the draft too. If they trade for Diggs, then that rookie likely wont come until day 3. If they sign AJ, then I think they still go rookie WR in first 3 rounds given Greens age and injury history. And if they elect to address WR only in draft, I think its a near lock to go WR in first 2 rounds and then maybe another one on day 3. I doubt they add 3 premium WR's. They still have guys like Foster, McKenzie, Duke and they seem to like Nick Easley's potential too to battle for the 5th WR spot. For me, our WR room is going to look like one of 3 ways come camp (besides the camp body types) Diggs, Brown, Cole, and Roberts with spots locked down...with Foster, McKenzie, Duke, and maybe either Easley or a day 3 drafted rookie. AJ Green, Brown, Cole, high profile rookie taken in first 3 rounds, Roberts, and then the other guys battling to try and justify to keep a 6th guy. Brown, Rookie (from 1st/2nd round), Cole, Roberts and then maybe a 2nd rookie along with Foster, McKenzie, Duke, and maybe Easley battling for the final spot.

Best answers would be Lee Evans, Schobel, or Mario Biggest need is at WR and Edge. Of those 3, I think I would go Lee Evans. He I think would have an even better career playing with Allen. Him and Smoke would be really hard to cover.

Yet plenty of smoke and rumors around those exact trades. Houston did this exact scenario with Cleveland to get rid of Osweiler, except they gave Cleveland a 2nd round pick to do it. And I think at this point, its quite possible Diggs gets traded and all the rumors are talking a 2nd round pick is what could get it done. There are no guarantees, and rumors are always just rumors, but to say never when both of those exact scenarios have some smoke building around them is a bit premature IMO.

Im all for trading to get Lamb IF...and ONLY IF...he slides in the draft into a reasonable cost range to go get him. No way should we trade up into the top 10 or anything crazy like that. But honestly, with the QB situations, there is a chance that one of Juedy or Lamb falls to 15th pick or even later. At that point, I am on the phone if I am Beane. To go up more than that would be to cost prohibitive in a draft rich with WR talent. But with Juedy and Lamb being ideal for us and in another tier over the other WR's, then I think its worth trading up for if they get within a reasonable trade range. Nothing that involves next years first for example should remotely be considered. This is also why I would love to see us trade a low round pick for David Johnson where we could pick up their 3rd round pick as well for taking over that contract. We easily can handle his contract for the next 2 seasons in our cap, and then we got an extra valuable pick to make a move like this if the opportunity is there. And if no trade up, we still have an extra 3rd in a draft loaded with talent that will be available still in the 3rd.

Devin is definitely a guy who runs with more power than he gets credit for. He is elusive and can go through you too. That being said, he's also 5'8" and while he's got a good build, would be nice to have a complimentary back that can also go in for the tough yards to take some wear off Devin. I don't think we need to something crazy like sign Derrick Henry (which would never happen anyway) like some people would love to see. We just need a compliment to Devin, and preferably one that can catch and also be of value in down and short situations too. This is why a guy like AJ Dillion in the draft makes sense as someone started a thread about. There are other RB's in this draft too of course, but at the end of the day, Devin will see the lion share of the carries as a 3 down back. So getting one of value in the draft to compliment him is ideal. Personally, if I was too project Devins stats next season I would put it at about 1250 yards rushing (Josh and a complimentary back will still some of his yards), 4.8+ ypc with 50+ receptions for another 400 to 500 yards and about 7 total TD's (again I think Allen poaches some of his TD's running it in himself).

I don't think Goff is a championship caliber QB. He's too soft. Honestly at times remind me of Jim Everett. If the Rams cant play defense, they won't win with Goff IMO. There is a clear blue print to slow him and the Rams offense down, and come playoff time, I don't want to lean on Goff to carry the team through tough games. If I was the Rams I would be trying to trade Gurley as they aren't using him like they are paying him and focusing on how to reload that defense. And even with the talent they do have, they seem to underperform. So not a guarantee adding another player like Slay can fix their issues, but if I am the Rams that is still where I am focused...defense.

AZ is looking to move his contract, like Osweiker trade from Hou to Cle. Basically paying us a 3rd to take on his final 2 years of his deal. We can afford to do this as we won’t have cap issues over the next 2 seasons. It’s a rumored trade discussion. I like Pittman a lot too, but I think his 40 time could make him slip to the 3rd given the immense depth of WR in this draft.

I want a big WR still too. What do you think about this: Trade our 2nd for Diggs. Trade a 6th to AZ for David Johnson AND their 3rd. Now draft Michael Pittman (or other big WR prospect) with Arizona’s 3rd. Still have our first, our own 3rd, and our 4th to use on spots like DE, OT, LB or DB. Thats a very doable scenario.

Im not going to freak out if we don't trade for Diggs, but the odds of hitting on a WR in the 2nd that will be close to as good as Diggs is less than likely. Yes, great players come from all over the draft, even UDFA...but the ODDS of one being as good or better than Diggs are pretty low and less than likely. Thats just statistical facts. I mean the bust rate in the first round is greater than 50%, let alone the 2nd round historically. Now factor in that a lot of people here don't trust this regime to evaluate WR's (although I personally think thats a bad take by those people given Beane has yet to draft a WR and did a pretty good job finding value in FA last year), and using that 2nd round pick to get a top 10 WR on a good value contract seems to be a no brainer to me.

It makes no logical sense to say that in a situation where they cant afford both to just assume who ever gets traded was traded because he was a "problem". And for all we know, Diggs may have asked to be traded, it could be why he is the one being shopped. Again, you don't actually know that. What are you talking about? He isn't a FA. And a free agent who is proven to be a top 10 player is always better than an unproven prospect. While this class is deep at WR, many of them WILL bust. Draft picks are by far a bigger gamble than a proven pro bowl player. Diggs contract is not a bad contract for us, it would actually be a bargain for his talent level.

Wow, good find. Thanks for that. I cant see the Skins going that direction instead of taking Chase Young given the contract size differences and Young is probably the best prospect in the whole draft. But, good indication that Chicago is desperate to fix the QB situation. I doubt our #22 pick is going to move the needle enough for them in their quest for a QB at top of draft, but if I am Beane I am making the call to inquire. We can absorb his salary no problem.

1. His team isnt kicking him to the curb. They are in a cap hell with another elite WR on the team, 2 good TEs and a run first offense where the RB is also a dangerous receiver. He is a luxury they can no longer afford. Thats not kicking someone to the curb, thats bad cap management coming back to bite them. 2. Why does he have an "attitude concern"? Because he didn't like the run first offense? Theilen complained about it too, so why doesnt Theilen get labeled with the same attitude problem? 3. The fact that the draft IS stocked also makes it possible to poach a top 10 WR from a team who can no longer afford him so they can TRY and replace him with an affordable contract. 4. Diggs contract is actually great for his talent level. Minn has to shed salary, and paying two top end WR's on a team already loaded with other weapons is not a luxury they can afford, especially with how much they run with Cook now. 5. We wont be doing anything close to "mortgaging the future" on Diggs, his contract is so easy for our cap situation.

Levi is better than he gets credit for.