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Not saying its a "win" per se, just saying I'm cool with the value we got back because it was bigger than the player itself. So I am not resentful of the move nor do I fault Beane for making a mid season move to fuel a playoff push. I will always back and support Beane being aggressive to help us make a playoff run. And mid season, premiere WR's are not exactly dangling around very often, so if you need a WR sometimes you can only get whats available. And there wasn't another WR that was available at that time that was perceived as better option. So thats why I don't hold a grudge nor fault Beane for the move. In fact, I think the impact on the organization, getting Kyle to the playoffs, the impact on the locker room, the energy to the fan base in its first season with a new GM and HC, etc was all far worth the 3rd round pick. Just my 2 cents.

Not one would on Earth outside the idiot(s) who designed and chose it like it. It’s hideous.

As others pointed out, not a free agent signing. But also, we broke the 17 year drought because of that trade. We don’t win a couple games without him that year, especially snow game. So we got value out of it, snapping a 17 year drought with a new regime in what was expected to be a rebuilding year went a long way towards changing the culture here. So I’m fine with the value we got back with that third.

The big difference is the team and cap management. Buffalo is not throwing out huge or bad contracts and screwing their cap up along the way to the day Josh is due for a new deal. Buffalo will be in position to pay Josh and also put a good team around him and keep improving the roster after as well. Dallas has put themselves in a bad spot now and is going to be handcuffed to a tighter cap situation moving forward (especially if they keep Cooper too) because they have dealt out a butt load of money, including to a RB, along the way. Now they get to over pay a QB (which is to be expected) who hasn’t been able to carry that team. In fact, they were a better team when Zeke was the key cog over the passing game. And with the cap space limited, they may struggle to build the roster around him better to put him in better chance of sustained playoff success. So the two situations aren’t the same. Dak isn’t close to a top 3 QB, but as the NFL goes, will get paid like one. And if you’re gonna do that, you better manage your roster, draft picks, and cap well...if not, you are going to be stuck in mediocrity and not able to put the necessary pieces around him to get to the next level.

Im not penciling them in for 8 wins. But McCarthy didn't exactly light the NFL on fire the last few years with an elite QB with Rodgers, so I am not sold hes suddenly going to make Dallas a SB contender on his own. Point is, with Dak and Cooper having their best years, they still won 8 games. And I am more talking about paying them BOTH big money versus say just keeping Dak. And come on, stop with the "predict which QB will be better" from the draft this year or next year non sense. Thats a silly statement/question to make. I agree with you about Rivers, I am not even advocating they sign Rivers. Just named him among several I named they could sign as Veterans who are capable of getting that roster to 8 wins or better. Im not even saying any of those FA QB's available are "better" than Dak. I am saying another route would be not to over pay both Dak and Cooper, sign a FA QB for less to hold the spot down and look to draft a QB for the future in the next 2 drafts. Start rebuilding the team and the cap structure. And keep in mind, I am more against them paying BOTH Dak and Amari. I get QB's basically always get over paid, so like I said before and saying again, if they keep one I would expect it to be Dak. But reports is they are keeping both.

Lol, they are not sniffing the SB next year...they got the best seasons ever out of Dak and Cooper and won EIGHT games in a BAD division. And its utterly foolish to dismiss any QB prospect before they have even been drafted. And they don't have to draft a QB this year if they say signed Rivers. Rivers is a HOF QB. Dak wont sniff the HOF. I dont think they lose much with Rivers over Dak anyway. But again, it does NOT matter. They are an 8 win team playing in a weak division. They are not going to win the SB with this roster, and if they over commit to Dak and Cooper, then this is the roster they are gonna have a for awhile with all the other money they have shelled out already to other players. Again, I expect Dak to stay in Dallas. But no way would I invest this much money in an 8 win team if I was the GM. I would strip it down and rebuild with the new staff. Like I said, but you seem to have completely missed and overlooked: SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO TAKE A STEP BACK BEFORE YOU CAN TAKE A STEP FORWARD. Yet you keep coming at me about being BETTER next year when I am NOT advocating for being "better", I am advocating to tear it down with a new regime coming as this roster and this direction has done NOTHING for Dallas and its not going to change by handing a butt load of money to an over rated QB and over rated WR. Who said he was the best GM in sports? I am simply saying hes doing a fantastic job at managing the cap while stock piling talent through the draft. Dallas has done a terrible job with how they spent money and managed their cap and are now poised to have cap troubles for years after they over pay an over rated QB and over pay an over rated WR. Again, I FULLY EXPECT DAK to remain in Dallas. Which is also why I fully expect Dallas to be a mediocre team battling for 8 or 9 wins for the net 5+ years.

Big money? Those guys would be quite a bit cheaper and on shorter contracts. Sometimes you need to take a step back to improve. Does anyone really think Dallas is gonna win a SB next year with this team that didn’t even make the playoffs in a weak division? So the solution is to throw big money at the same squad who won 8 games in one of the weakest divisions in football last year? Once they pay Dak and Amari their cap is screwed with all the other big contracts they got. And how exactly is over paying Dak and Cooper “making them better” when under Daks BEST season as a pro statistically they won 8 games and missed the playoffs. Not to mention one of Coopers best seasons too. Again...See: Beane, Brandon for what to do next.

They could sign a solid FA like Teddy, Rivers, Tannehill, etc for less and for shorter then draft a QB. This is one of the best off seasons ever to find a solid vet QB in FA. If they are gonna sign one, Dak makes the most sense given he’s a QB. But still, he’s not the kind of player I want to break the bank for personally. I’d rather let someone else over commit and find a QB in the draft while using a Vet FA to keep them competitive. I mean they spent all that money on Zeke, find a guy who can be solid and doesn’t need to be great at QB while focusing the offense around Zeke. Then draft someone like Eason or Love this year to groom. But I get it, this is what happens today. Guys get over paid all the time. But then you look at Beane whose being smart on his signings and managing the cap about as good as I’ve ever seen vs adding talent. And Dallas, well Jerry Jones, isn’t gonna wanna rebuild. So I’m sure Dak stays a Cowboy. But I don’t think he’s going to live up to the contract.

I’m not paying Dal $34m a year personally. Nor am I paying Cooper that either. Dak isn’t a top 5 QB, he’s not special IMO. Cooper isn’t even a top 10 WR. He’s good for a few big games with majority being mediocre or worse. Again neither is bad, and in fact would say both are even pretty good. I’m just saying I’m not gonna pay this duo a cap choking amount of money as if they were top 3 players at their positions. I don’t see them getting Dallas over the top. It’s one thing to pay one, but both is a bit too rich for me.

Bold: Bills sign Clowney despite Beane saying he won’t spending in “the deep end of the pool” this year. I don’t think it’s likely, but if Beane does spend on one big FA then I think it’s a DE.

Personally, I think if I had to guess today, based on how I currently expect the board to fall and what I think happens in FA...I think we stay at 22 and draft Tee Higgins. There are only 3 players I think Beane trades up for and only if they get to at least 15 as higher than they is too rich. Those are Chaisson, Juedy, Lamb. But even then, I’m not sold Beane trades UP for a WR given depth at that position. I do think it’s possible we trade down, but unlikely. Beane covets talent above all else, and at 22 there is gonna likely be someone he loves on the board IMO. I do think it’s quite possible Beane trades up at some point in draft, maybe even more than once though. More likely somewhere in rounds 2-5 though.

Any team who makes Dak a top 3 paid QB is a fool. So I hope they do it cuz F Dallas. He’s not terrible, but no way is he worth that money IMO. $43m for Dak and Amari??? Bahahahaha OMG I would love that. Not that either is “bad”, but talk about over paying for them.

I don’t see this happening. They are quite happy with Dawkins and plan to keep him. And Trent doesn’t play RT. Don’t Beane spending a draft asset to get a 31 year old LT to play RT and also pay him when he can draft an actual RT or sign one in FA if they feel a need to upgrade competition for Ford.

Its so bad, everyone here in LA hates it with a passion.

I’m not saying don’t develop him, and neither are Beane and McD. But ultimately it wasn’t a banner year at tackle for him. And you don’t need me to tell you or anyone that, McD has made that abundantly clear but still to this day not committing to a position for him. At the end of the day the only thing that matters is what the best group of 5 guys is to protect Josh and open up the running lanes too. And it’s a legit possibly that 5 guy group includes him at guard, just like it’s a legit possibility it includes him at tackle. But at the end of the day, he had better play as a rookie at guard than tackle. Doesn’t mean he can’t get better at tackle though, just means he did not lock down the job at tackle and Beane will never hesitate to make this roster better which includes finding a better option at tackle if he sees an opportunity to do so.

FWIW he was a better guard than tackle in his first NFL season IMO.

I’m still high on Higgins. Honestly, there isn’t a WR they can take in rounds one or two that I would be disappointed in. Lots to like about all the guys projected in those areas. I think people made a way bigger deal out of the combine decision than they needed to. I mean he is gonna do all that at his pro day. If he didn’t feel his best at the combine, it’s a smart decision to not hurt his stock and wait until his pro day.

Oh yeah, he's getting a job somewhere for sure. Honestly think he ends up in Houston. He will not get paid what he wants IMO either, but he will be a good starting RB for someone.

But they still have Jackson too who is a good runner himself. So its a two back set still and both are multi-dimensional weapon.

AJ Green and Perriman are the only ones who interest me. And even then, they are not my main preference. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not against those signings, but just think this draft is so good at WR, let’s go get some young talent to pair with our vets and let Josh grow with them. I don’t think we should sign any FA WRs and should look to spend more at the edge, LB, and OT spots. We have 2 quality veteran starters right now in John and Cole. Go get 2 WRs in the first 3 rounds of the draft and let Duke, Roberts and McKenzie battle for the remaining spots. I would love to see us draft a stud prospect in the first and then draft another in round 3 like Claypool, Pittman, Mims, Hamler, DPJ, Reagor, Aiyuk, Edwards, etc. I know some of those guys will go in second, but odds are not all of them will and someone Good will be there in the 3rd round. Last year guys people expected to go earlier lasted a round to 2 rounds longer than expected. Even some mocked to go mid rounds were not even drafted. It’s a deep group, I would double dip and take 2 in first 3 rounds. Heck, I would have even trade back into the 3rd round if need be like last year. Take Jefferson/Higgins at 22 (assumption top 3 guys gone). Take Claypool or DPG in the third (I think good chance they could be there). Or go a different direction first and take back to back WRs in rounds 2 and 3 or even 2nd and 4th.

Ditto and so did Fitzpatrick. I benched Cousins and Josh Allen in week 16 do to bad matchups (actually dropped them both) and added Fitz for the title game and he had 4 TDs before halftime. Whatever Gordon gets, it wont be from the Chargers IMO. They still have another good RB in Jackson. They dont need to spend more money on Gordon. And honestly, I think Ekeler is a better overall player IMO. Just more of a weapon.

Certainly possible, but I still think a run on other positions will push at least one down. Now that could mean a team tries to leap frog both us and Philly to get one of those 3 too.

I don’t see Philly taking him over Juedy, Ruggs, or Lamb. And I don’t see those 3 all being gone before Phillys pick. If they are, then yes, I think Jefferson is a near lock to Philly. But i have a hard time mocking 3 WRs in the top 20 picks this year. Could happen of course, but just not seeing it as likely especially with how deep the WR class is.

I’ve started boarding the Jefferson train too. I think there is a decent chance he will be the pick at 22 if: Juedy, Lamb, and Ruggs are all off the board and so is Chaisson. I could still see them taking Epenesa or Matos too given the depth at WR and maybe target a WR in round 2 too. But are those two edge guys really that much higher grade than say Anae on Beanes board will be the real question. Especially after Epenesa didn’t have a great combine in terms of speed/agility. If not, then think they go for WR and look to snag someone like Anae in round 2 or even 3 (although I don’t expect him to last to round 3 anymore after the combine).

Personally, I think it’s entirely possible we trade down if a guy they covet isn’t on the board at 22. They could trade down and get a guy like Dugger for example. But the power of trading down could also lead to them trading back up, maybe even multiple times to land even more 2nd and 3rd round players this year. I could honestly see Beane parlaying our draft assets into as many as 5 or 6 picks in the top 3 rounds. Trade down picking up 2 there and some change potentially and then another trade up or 2. Im NOT predicting this, I mean honestly there is no way to predict our draft this year with any accuracy, especially before FA. I can just as easily see us trading up if we can get to a spot at a price Beane can stomach to get a premier talent he covets. There are just so many scenarios that could play out that have us landing a guy they covet at 22, trading up, or even trading down. But a trade down I think is a legit possibility if they stand pat and they get a good offer to move back and their top targets are already gone. That being said, there is a 0% chance they trade down regardless of the offer if he a high priority target is on the board at 22. Beane will for sure take the talent over the picks.