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Here is my opinion: Had we drafted DK Metcalf instead of Ford we would have won 12 games and the division and wouldn't have played Saturday. There are multiple games where a single play from a WR with size changes the games outcome. Both Pats games and Ravens game just for starters. DK is the perfect WR for Allen...his speed and size with Josh's cannon would have paired nicely for a long time. Lets say with DK we sill play Houston on Sat: I think we decisively win that game Saturday with DK on this roster instead of Ford. HOWEVER: As much as I championed to draft DK pre-draft, I can not fault Beane's draft decisions at all. Cody Ford was arguably the BPA when we got him in the second, most had him projected between 10 and 20 in the first round (although I had mocked him to Bills in the 2nd ?). I would have taken DK Metcalf there personally, but also do not fault our GM for putting so much emphasis on the trenches with our first 2 picks and our FA signings. And I think Ford will be a good player for us once moved permanently inside to Guard. IMO his future is not at RT based on his struggles this year. BOTTOM LINE: You can not fill every hole on a rebuilding team in one offseason. Beane and his staff did a fantastic job building this roster up the last 2 years so far, and McD has done a great job coaching this young squad. There is no doubt WR will be a huge priority this offseason, and will be interesting to see if Beane goes after someone like Cooper or Green in free agency, or if he is planning on being aggressive in the draft at WR. But make no mistake about it, WR's will be added this offseason in either good vets or a highly drafted rookie at the bare minimum.

I vote Duke too.

Exactly

Now what are the haters gonna say with their favorite slam not valid anymore of “Well coaches don’t think much of him either or he would be active.” Oh come on, there are several guys who can and will play gunner. You guys act like Foster was the best gunner in history of NFL and not replaceable lol.

Wilson has had an MVP worthy season too, it goes past just “stats”. People forget what Wilson has had to over come this year too and how much he carries that Seahawks team himself. Im just saying it’s not a travesty for someone to think Wilson is as deserving of the honor. It’s not that big of a deal and puzzles me why so many people care if Polian is Lamars biggest fan or not. It’s also unfair for him to take criticism just because pre-draft he doubted Lamars ability to be a QB at the next level. Every run first QB to ever come out of college has had the same questions, some more than others. No run first QB has ever won anything in the NFL. And for every Vick or Cunningham, there are dozens of others that struggle or wash out. I was on the Lamar train at the draft, even started a thread called “Making the case for Lamar” at 12 rather than paying a fortune to trade up. But lots of people here also thought he was gonna bust at QB, but no one is going around shoving it down those people’s throats. Kiper, Polian, McShay are all wrong way way more than they are right. It’s utterly stupid to follow Polian around and harp on his wrong assessment of Lamar at the next level. It’s just petty click bait. And Wilson has been neck and neck all season with Lamar for MVP. Not a shock Wilson has a couple people who still think he deserves accolades for his season. Internet just always has to find reasons to piss and moan about.

Wilson > Lamar. I would vote for Wilson too. Wilson is an Elite proven champion. Lamar is playing in a new offense the NFL is still figuring out. No run first QB has ever won the SB yet. So I don’t see the big deal with Polian voting for the better player.

One, I seriously doubt they are going to give the full and accurate details to an opponent before a payoff game. Two, doesnt matter what they say, they can always make in game adjustments and changes. If D Hop is torching everyone else, believe me, Tre will be on him.

McD goes for it on 4th down more than any coach I can remember seeing here. I just don’t get how people slam him for being conservative. The only times I see him slow it down, is when we have a lead and our Defense has been stout. He definitely tends to take less chances there and protect the ball and play field position. But overall, it puzzles me how people gripe so much about him being too conservative. I mean, we take deep shots all game, even when not connecting, aggressively go for after it on 4th down, and not just on 4th and 1 either. He let’s Josh throw downfield in 3rd and long to very long situations when most coaches just do a draw or short screen to play field position, etc etc. I think McD is more aggressive than people give him credit for. McD does play field position and ball control at times, especially with a young QB and stout defense, but he is definitely not a coach out there playing scared or timid. He isn’t afraid to take chances IMO.

Daboll is a tale of two people. On one side he’s a stubborn, predictable, idiot who tries to get to cute too often rather than help his young QB find a rhythm. Running Gore 2 straight times to put us in 3rd and long constantly through a first half. Or running midgets like Cole on 20+ yard routes on 3rd and 5...stuff like that. Other times, he turns Josh loose and makes incredible calls in key moments and finds ways to get the ball into playmakers hands. He has been so frustrating and also brilliant at times. Personally, I welcome a change at OC in hopes of finding someone who runs an offense that helps Josh and the other 10 guys get in rhythm early in games vs turning it on later. An overly complex offense on a young squad with 9 new players I think is too aggressive in terms of creating opportunities to find a rhythm. Which is why we probably see Josh and the offense play it’s best in the spread out hurry up offense where Josh gets to improvise more. I won’t hate it if he is back in B-lo next year, but I also won’t miss him if he’s not. NOTE: I reserve the right to change my mind if Daboll manages to impress in the post season. But right now, the wild inconsistency in how the offense runs and the early game stubbornness still bothers me today.

I hope they hire him. I want a new OC

Well both Bills prime time games this year were the highest rated games of the last few years. So yeah, more people did tune in for the Bills game, not just because it was only game on Not that it matters, but it was a surprise to see

Simple answer: Yes, it was a good move. 1. Beane proved to the team and fan base he isn’t afraid to be aggressive when in the midst of making the playoffs. 2. KB contributed to us snapping the drought. I don’t think we win the snow bowl without him. 3. Snapping the 17 year drought in their first season together (McBeane) was huge. It gave them credibility, and I have no doubt between that and the growth we should second half of last year with a depleted roster contributed heavily to our ability to attract free agents this past off season. So while KB wasn’t a long term solution, that move still provided some very important contributions to this team and just can’t be looked at as a mistake in my book. Especially at the time he made it, KN was an exciting add to a team in the midst of a playoff push and the best available WR at that time.

This is a YOUNG team. This is a team coming off an emotional defeat to a team they may see again in playoffs. This is a team that’s been starting games slow offensively. This season is just the beginning, and not a last chance scenario. This is an offense with 9 new starters this year still coming together. This is a team still learning to win and reduce mistakes. Therefore: It’s better that they play, at least part of the game. Its not a good thing to go into the post season with a 2 week gap for our young starters and potentially on a streak of losing 3 games in last 4 (assuming backups lost to Jets). If someone gets hurt, well that’s football. Resting starters would be like playing not to lose vs playing to win. If they want to win in the playoffs, then it’s better to keep the machine oiled. If this was a veteran team with lots of playoff experience, then I would say let them rest. But we need the reps. I fully support this decision no matter what the outcome is. McD obviously feels the same way.

Yes, I would take Allen still before Lamar, and I do like Lamar. I just think Allen will have the better career when it’s all said and done. Lamar has been fun to watch, and happy for his success as I liked him coming out too. But, I feel like the NFL will catch up with Romans system and Lamars game. And while he can still have a good career, I just think Allen has a higher ceiling as a QB overall.

We need receivers, not a DT. End thread. PS: I love Donald and reserve the right to be excited if he ends up on the Bills. But hope we don’t do it, it’s very unnecessary.

They would have been better off if they were 3-13. How did going 7-9 so much work out for Bills all those years? Or trading multiple first round picks work out? Bottom line. Bears are facing a tough road if Trubisky doesnt magically go from Crap to good next year. They have a bad cap situation, guys they are likely going to lose soon because of it, and no premium picks to help fill those spots and also find a new QB. You dont mortgage your future on a defensive player when your QB is not settled...period. It would be utterly stupid for the Bills to go get Donald, and I love Donald and watch him play all the time here in LA as Rams are my second team...distant second, but still my second team. We have a championship defense already and we just invested the 9th pick in the draft on a DT that is supposed to potentially compare to Donald to go along with a returning Horrible Harry and a likely resigned Jordan. Trading for Donald would be as foolish as drafting Spiller 9th overall when we already had BOTH Lynch and Jackson on the roster. This team is NOT a DT away from being a serious SB contender...it is however, a couple offensive weapons away from being one. For example...Jordan is second to only Donald in the NFL for sacks from a DT this year. Swapping Donald in this year for Jordan would not at all change our record. We did not lose any of our 5 games this year because we had Jordan and Oliver instead of Donald. We did however lose multiple games because we couldn't score more points when our D held the opponent to a low score. Its utterly insane to trade picks and tie up the cap space for Donald right now. We absolutely need to focus our draft assets and cap space heavy this offseason on the offense.

I said it when the trade went down. Mack would kill the Bears ability to get better. Which he did, so many assets to get him and the massive cap hit have now put a strangle hold on a team that needs a lot more help than Mack to contend. Bears D with all that talent around Mack regressed this year too. I would not mortgage the farm for Donald, we have to focus on building the offense more first and foremost. We already have a championship quality defense, we need weapons for Josh

Coming into this week he was also 5th in the NFL in rushing yards per game since becoming a starter too.

Yet entering this week: 6th ranked QB in the NFL in touchdowns with 27. #1 rated QB in NFL in 4th quarter. Most 4th quarter comebacks since entering the league despite not starting or finishing 6 games due to injury. #1 rated QB on 3rd and long. 13-6 record in games he started and finished since coming back from injury last year. Longest multiple TD streak in NFL this year Second only to Lamar in touchdowns since week 4. And all of this despite a frustrating OC, three top WRs averaging 5’10” in height, 9 new players on offense, inconsistent OL play against top defenses, facing some of the best D’s in the league late in the season, and still only having barley a season and a half of starts. Additionally, highest dropped pass rate in the NFL and Bills are second in total passes dropped in the NFL (and those stats are only counted on well placed balls). Yeah...I think there is a LOT more to love than complain about.

He is the 6th ranked QB in total TDS in the entire NFL. He’s second in total TDS behind only Lamar since the first NE game. He has the longerst streak of consecutive multi TD games in the NFL this year . Dude has just started and finished 26 career games, barely over a season and a half. His top 3 receivers are midgets, and only 2 of them are any good. He’s got raw rookies on the OL, TE and RB around him. Think people need to take a chill pill and appreciate what he has already accomplished in an offense that’s still being built around him.

Dawkins trick play TD. I will say that makes this thread a winner. Case Closed. Nice call, and I was the first that agreed with you hehe

Is this thread real? One is likely to be fired for grossly under performing... ....The other is on a short list for COY.

Honestly, I think you may be right.

20 is the number I had in my head too. Which is why I predicted a 20-13 Bills win.

This is where you are wrong, in fairness with me at least. I am not over valuing Duke. I am assigning him some value where guys like Foster are providing no value. If Duke averages 2 rec a game and gets 1 TD every 3 games, then that’s substantially more value than Foster, Smith or Roberts have provided. I like Roberts, so not trying to pick on him because at least he has some value as a KR although it’s been a bit disappointing this year, but i think that’s more on our blocking more than him. And Duke IS averaging 2 rec a game and one TD every 3 games like I said above. You see I am not over valuing him, I am saying he’s done more in less opportunities. He has provided more value already. I will take that over no value any day of the week. But if anyone speaks up for Duke, you guys over exaggerate it as if we claim he’s our savior. All we are saying is it would be nice to have a WR for those tight spaces and tough yards a few times a game. Our top 3 guys average 5’10” and 180ish pounds. We got a monster for a QB, give him one big WR for those spots where one is useful. I was very high on Foster after last year, but the reality is the staff has lost faith in him or he’s severely regressed (or both)...so if he’s not gonna do anything, activate the guy who is hungry and physical out there who can also help our run game with his blocking.