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Yes.

He’s on IR. Players on IR can’t be traded.

But wait, what kind of car does @DDCC drive? If you get that reference you’re a TSW OG 🤪

How can anyone compare the two situations? This is a pretty silly comparison and guess people forgot about Matt Cassel too. Patriots roster is not remotely close to the Bucs. Brady has the greatest collection of weapons of his career right now. Patriots offensive weapons is among the worst in the league right now. Patriots had several of their best players opt out on defense too for COVID and lost others as well. Bucs have an excellent run defense and pretty good overall defense. This is like asking why isn’t BB coaching the Jags to the Super Bowl right now because the Pats roster isn’t much better than the Jags. Meanwhile, Brady is the QB of an offensive juggernaught with a pretty good defense too. Same offense Winston threw for over 5000 yards in last year when it had less talent than it does this year. Sorry, but this is a ridiculous comparison and literally means nothing in the story of who was more important. They are both GOATS at what they do. Brady is just on a SB roster where Pats are more of a 5-7 win team roster.

I dont understand why people keep listing WR's as potential trade targets. Its the one area we are pretty rock solid at. And also Gilmore is not even remotely realistic. Not only do I seriously doubt Pats want to send him to the emerging best team in their own division, but the cap numbers are nothing Beane is going to ever consider. We can't afford to field 2 of the highest paid CB's in the league. But, I did answer YES in the poll if I think Beane will make a trade, and also YES if I would be disappointed if we don't. One, this team can and should compete this year. I can make an argument confidently that we are a player or two away from significantly addressing some of the glaring issues on the team. And that area is primarily 1TDT. Adding a space eater in the middle to replace the hole left by Star will make the most impact. That makes our LB's, DE's, and 3TDT's jobs so much easier. Its the rare case where a singular player can have a multitude of impact across the unit. I wont be pissed if no trades happen, but I do think that its a position that can fit in quickly into a unit, so of all years, this really makes sense for a midseason trade given the opportunity we have this year. So I would be a little disappointed if we don't given the solution to that problem is not currently on the roster. Wouldn't surprise me if we made a trade for a veteran TE or athletic TE, but I think its far more likely he explores some beef for the interior of the DL over anything else. Possibly a CB too not named Gilmore.

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First 4 games, Buffalo averaged 4 TDS per game. We have 4 TOTAL TD's in the 3 games since. Yards dont win games, points do. And we keep committing drive killing play calls, mental mistakes, blown assignments, etc that keep points off the board. Including against the worst team in the NFL. Somethings not working, the offense isn't playing with rhythm, discipline, or confidence. Im suggesting a way to help build that back up. Simple as that. We need smarter play calls, and better execution. Daboll needs to make adjustments.

Yeah, this is mostly what I am trying to convey here, good post Whose claiming things with confidence? I said I think...who are you to say its wrong with confidence? I mean thats a pretty silly thing to say on a fan message board.

Its just not working. My question is what do people think an OC or DC does when they make "adjustments"? They make changes in the playbook and play calling. So do people want him to make it more complex and an even bigger playbook? I mean, our guys are not executing well enough,. We have had so many drive killing plays either that were just awful play calls or poorly executed. Somethings not working well enough to get the offense in rhythm. Missing Brown and being short handed at guard on the OL is not helping. Yet every time our back is against the wall, they just keep it simple and move the ball at will like the drive to get us within a score late against KC, the key drives late in this game. They need to do more of that. It shouldn't only be when our backs are against the wall.

I already posted that in the OP. Hes over complicating simple situations. We are short on personnel and running a deep playbook. All I said was just shrink the playbook a little bit, and lower the complexity a little bit...while we get healthy.

Do you watch for the game plan? The formations? The shifts? The schemes? The options? Not being an a**...but if you don't then this thread isn't going to make a lot of sense to you. Guess Daboll is perfect and nothing needs adjusting. I whole heartedly disagree that hes been good the last few weeks. I have had these issues in the past with him too.

Thats not what I said. I said reduce the complexity and size of the playbook a little bit until our offense is healthy. Focus on getting a rhythm in the offense. Because if you think our offense has been in rhythm the last 3 weeks then I dont know what games you have been watching. Man, people fixate on certain words. I didnt pin this thread only on penalties. Its like thats all anyone read.

I didn’t make this post about one play. We have had multiple issues for several weeks. And most importantly, Daboll game plan has been frustrating for several weeks now. I didn’t say let’s make the offense vanilla, I think we need to just reduce the complex schemes a little bit that he’s always trying to run and turn the focus on getting the offense into a rhythm and getting the run game going.

You can’t look at our offense and play calling and not put a lot of that on Daboll. One, he is not calling many run plays, and when he does, he’s often calling runs out of unconventional formations or RPOs.

I think they need to reduce the size of the playbook a little bit and dial down the complexity. Players in the past have already said its the most complicated they have seen, and that was before this year where he has clearly expanded the size of the playbook. We are seeing too many dumb penalties on offense like illegal formations that have taken TD's off the board or killed drives. Get this offense into a rhythm, make it just a little less complicated and keep it fresh with Josh ability to improvise. Daboll is trying too hard on gimmick and trick plays. He calls too many, and has bad timing with it too. Maybe just dial back the complexity and size just a little bit, at least until our offense gets healthy and get key guys back like Brown and Feliciano.

Its correct call per the language of the rule, but I don't agree fully with the rule. That was an example where the defender turned his head away and body away from the defender. Only option to is to not touch him at all and let hm catch basically there.

Flea flicker could have worked too, but you dont call it there either.

Hahaha I was saying the same thing in a text thread I was in. Hilarious.

I get that, but sorry, there is no convincing me that on a critical 3rd and 1 that a play call like an RPO that is a SLOW DEVELOPING play that starts 5 yards behind the LOS is the smart play call. And at the split moment Josh needs to make the decision, its not crystal clear who can get it. And almost every time, the QB is looking to see if he has the hole or not, he cant check his running lanes and also the RB's to decide who takes it. The decision is made the second the ball is snapped basically. All Josh is looking for is if he sees enough of a lane for himself to get through, if not, he lets the back take it. And with a QB as strong and competitive as Josh, hes going to almost ALWAYS keep that ball rather than run outside with a RB who lacks burst speed. Sorry Bill, just because one of the options might have worked, doesn't make it a good play call or even justified. I agree you cant always blame the play caller, but that was stupid. And Daboll has this tendency to call stupid things in key moments that is troubling.

Daboll is just trying to much "magic" out there. He needs to learn how to get the team into a rhythm. I mean we are not running much and when we do, its often out of unconventional formations. Its like he just out thinks himself too much or gets too gimmicky at times.

Good week..bad competition. So encouraging, and I think he has a case to start. But I won't feel comfortable about it until I see him have a strong game against a better offense too. But he was good today and impressed with his play, which is a step in the right direction.

I agree. And that concerns me. Titans put blue print out that Chiefs and Jets showed they paid attention. I mean Jets are a doormat and even they were able to disrupt the rhythm of this offense with it. The top teams like Titans and Chiefs already had great success against us with it, and we still also have Steelers and Ravens who both have great defenses who can role the same game plan out. Daboll couldn't even adjust to beat the Jets version of it convincingly. Its easy to call because Josh has converted every down and 1 or down and 2 sneak except like one or two over 3 years, and they have called it a lot. So yeah, pretty easy to call a go to play with like a 95-98% success rate on a critical 3rd and 1 to pretty much seal a win.

The RPO out of shotgun takes too long to develop, and yeah its easy to sit above and see the whole field and know Moss can get that, but when your players are standing in the trenches needing to make a split second decision, its not so easy. It was just a dumb call to start a run 5 yards behind the LOS on a delay through a RPO with 3rd and 1. Thats my biggest issue with Daboll. He tries way too much trickery, and tries to run too much like that. There are times in the game you need to be men and just go get the yard rather than try and finesse the yard. We have a wrecking ball at QB which should have been the call.

You say that but Moss ran pretty well today. Personally, the ONLY play call there in a critical 3rd and 1 is to sneak Josh. It has literally a success rate over 95%. I saw a stat somewhere that showed in 3 years hes only been stopped like once or twice. Including the sneak on down and 2 to go. There is no higher percentage play there, and that was a vital 3rd down there.

Daboll is not fine. His play calling and game plan the last 3 weeks has been atrocious. Total yards dont win football games, points do. Daboll stupidity cost us dearly many times and killed scoring drives or put us into FG instead of TDs...and against the worst team in the NFL. We scored 18 points, Anyone happy with 18 points against the Jets needs re-examine what a good outing looks like. The 3rd and 1 RPO was utterly stupid. We spent a 3rd on a power RB. We have a beast at QB who has converted just about every 3rd and 1, or 4th and 1 he has ever tried over three years on a sneak. You line up and pound the ball with your back or let your QB sneak it. You dont lineup in shotgun on a CRITICAL 3rd and 1 and do a stupid RPO that takes so long to develop and starts 5 yards behind the LOS. Daboll is OBSESSED with trickery and forgets the fundamentals that are still needed to win games. We beat the lowly Jets by one score, this was not a good day for Daboll..