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I have always loved Fitz as a person, leader, off the field, etc. I was not a fan of him as our starting QB because he was never going to get us over the top. But I do always like to see him succeed and loved what he did in Miami last year too. Nothing but love for him as a person and sending good thoughts and prayers his way to him and his family for whatever seems to be going on.

Im guessing by the Napolean complex you couldn't even reach my mouth on my 6'5" body. So I wont lose any sleep over these comments sport. But I will also anxiously await the dumpster fire Rex to rejoin the always dumpster fire Jets with a box of popcorn in hand.

What kind of f-ed up education did you get that led you talk to like that? You write like a never-been wannabe wise guy in the middle of a stroke. No wonder you like that dumpster fire Jets organization. I mean your head coach looks like he's having a stroke at all times and coaches like it too.

This is just Cam saying the right things...the things Patriots want their players to say...kind of stuff. He's is 100% without a shadow of a doubt the week 1 starter. How long he holds on to the job depends on 2 things...his health and the win total of the Pats. If the Pats fall out of contention and he is faltering, I definitely think they will make a switch to see what Stidham can do in live games before next draft. But, honestly, I don't think Cam will struggle there. I don't expect him to find his MVP form (although, its still quite possible he could under BB like he rejuvenated Moss's career) of 5 years ago, but I do except him to be a good starting QB still as long as his body holds up. And that is a legit question mark on him, especially with no preseason or camp to really test that body.

Which does have it merits, however, its just silly to down grade the description of Allens play. He should have said something like, "Allen had a sensational day, albeit against the 2nd string defense, but still was a sensational performance in just 2.5 quarters of play and without his new lead wideout in Diggs." Instead, he leads with just a solid day and even stated not a great day, not a bad day, but a solid day. That literally paints a completely different narrative. Sounds more like 60% of his passes, 150 yards and a TD or two at best. Some reporters just cant let the kid shine when he shines.

So, after reading all the real football updates in here...this seems to be conclusions summed up: Starting offense dominated the 2nd string defense. Which is great, but also, obvious reasons to not over value this either. Still great to see. Josh Allen completed 70% of his passes, 3 TDs and over 300 yards and only 1 turnover that was more the fault of the WR. That would be a very good day...BUT there is one more piece of missing info that makes this a sensational day...all that production was done in what was essentially just 2.5 quarters of play!!! Sounds like he was on pace for 500 yards, 5 TDs had they played 4 full quarters. Again, still worth noting it was against our second string defense...but none the less, thats great to see and he had that day WITHOUT Diggs. Starting defense dominated second string offense. No shock there, and to be expected. Still good to see, but really nothing surprising about one of the best defensive units in football beating down backup players. Davis continues to shine, although he did have the tipped pass off his hands that resulted in an INT. Moss is going to be a load to bring down and if he keeps playing like this, I think this will be more of a Panthers like (DeAngelo and Stewart) 50-50 timeshare pretty early into the season. Not at all a knock on Devin, just think these two will both be very good in this offense and compliment each other very well. Taiwan Jones odds of beating out Yeldon are starting to dwindle due to health issues that seem to always be an issue for him. I think Yeldon is emerging as the favorite to be the veteran 3rd back over Taiwan. Although I do like Taiwan overall skill set better. Some reporters just cant let Allen have compliments...the guy saying he was solid and basically same ole Josh Allen today in terms of inconsistency is a buffoon. 70% comp, 3 TDS, over 300 yards in the air in 2.5 quarters is "solid"...I mean come on, even Thad said he had a great day.

Why do you keep talking politics in this thread? It was said many times to do it in PPP and not a football thread. Just start issuing 72 hour bans to those not following the rules like this. Just my 2 cents, and I do not envy your job, and its got to be 10 times worse with all the craziness of 2020. So thank you mods for all the work.

THIS.

I don’t get the outrage. Is Edelman supposed to tweet that they are rolling over and playing dead? That they concede the division to us? LOL I mean Cam has been nicknamed Superman for years. So this isn’t even off the wall. I want the Pats to lose as much as anyone, but this was nothing.

Well I already said it wasn’t going to happen in my OP. But the co tract is actually why it could happen as it’s last year of his deal, so we could easily absorb the deal for this year if we wanted to. But again, it wasn’t going to happen and looks like he’s gonna stay with Chargers now anyway

No one said one case changes the facts. But I can name many cases just like this just out of the circle of people I personally know, let alone what you can find if you do some actual research. So again, nothing you actually said was accurate and was all just your opinion, not fact.

I wouldn't say that...Duke had the biggest moments last week and Hodgins had a strong week too. Davis is a lock. But Mckenzie is battling still with Duke and Hodgins IMO. All 3 have a shot to make this roster as a 6th WR.

Must have misread it then, my bad

FYI: My friends husband died in June from COVID. In his 30’s, in good shape, no prior medical conditions and had no high risk factors. So yeah, you’re wrong about pretty much everything you just said. So there’s that.

Dont disagree with any of this, and if this were a normal season I would be in full agreement. But the wildcard is no preseason and limited reps in camp. Daboll runs one of the most complicated offenses in the league, so guys unfamiliar with it are going to have that working against them as an obstacle. So that’s the main reason I think Yeldon has an edge, but my personal preference is Jones.

Taiwan Jones is not the lock some are making him out to be. Does he have a legit shot at the roster, absolutely. But some of you are over exaggerating the certainty he will be on the week 1 roster. He's had injury issues and they still really like Yeldon too and have kept him around despite fans always writing him off. And with no preseason and limited camp, Jones will have less time to learn the complicated offense Daboll runs too, which gives Yeldon and edge there. For me, this is a close battle and I think the experience and knowledge of Daboll's complicated offense will tend to give those guys a slight edge this year in camp battles. That being said, Wade is a real long shot to make the roster, and its probably not realistic this year without a full camp and preseason for him to really show he's ready to be on an active NFL roster. He has a world of potential, but we have a 2nd year RB and a rookie RB as our top 2 guys this year. For them to keep a raw 3rd RB on top of that is just not likely. They will want some veteran presence in that room, not 3 guys with 1 year of NFL regular season experience among them. For me, with Wade, the real question is are they going to see enough to put him on the regular PS instead of using the exemption. If they use the exemption PS spot for him, he can not be activated at any point this year again as its a bonus spot. But, if they feel he could be someone they could tap in the event of an injury, then they may choose to put him on the normal PS instead so he could be potentially activated if an injury or COVID situation hits the active RB's. My suspicion is that Wade will be on the regular PS as someone they could move to the active roster. With COVID being such a wildcard, I think having him potentially available will be something they will value as long as he's shown he's picked the game up enough this camp.

What about the OP suggested it was anything other than speculation. Wasn't even called a rumor...just said Bills mentioned and asked people what they thought about the authors suggested trade idea.

I dont disagree with this...but at 31, if we had him for just this season or even a 2 year extension, I think he would still have a high level of production to go with our other 2 young LB's. Again, I was never proposing we make the trade, nor do I even think it would ever happen anyway. And the reasons I mentioned it wouldn't happen were age and money. Ingram is an outside LB though, so we would field Edmunds, Milano and Ingram potentially if this trade happened (which I do not think it ever will like I said in my original post). I most likely would too, although adding him to Edmunds and Milano for this season would certainly make the defense on paper look like the best in the NFL. But for me, the offense is the most important side of the ball, and I like Ty a lot and his versatility. So I think ultimately I would probably pass too unless we could bring in Ingram for just the 5th round pick.

Saw this article and did a search on the board and nothing came up. So thought I would share it. Ingram situation is interesting given a lot of teams cant afford to trade for him if LAC were to decide to move him. This articles lists Bills second behind the Pats as a possible trade partner. Curious what you guys would think of this trade they are proposing... Melvin Ingram III and a 7th round pick for Ty Nsheke and a 5th round pick. Damn, our D would be nasty...I do like Ty though and his versatility. Its interesting though because Ingram is in the last year of his deal. He wants a new deal, so I personally do not think Beane is going to be interested in this given his age of 31, wanting a new deal, and having our own players we still need to resign over the next couple of years. But, that being said, I think we could afford to trade Ty if it brought back an impact player like this and our already sick defense would get even better. I think its not a realistic scenario personally for the reasons I already stated, but certainly would be an exciting one if Beane did manage to pull a trade off for him. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2905243-potential-trade-packages-landing-spots-for-chargers-holdout-melvin-ingram-iii

I don't disagree with that really, I mean Duke could easily be the one who hits the PS again. My only thing about it was the uniqueness of this season IMO will make it harder for deeper drafted rookies and UDFA rookies to beat out someone with more experience in the system in a close battle. But ultimately, I have no issue if they did keep Hodgins over Duke. At the end of the day, if Hodgins shines he will earn his spot. Just a lot harder to shine with no preseason games, minimal contact, etc. Lots of guys look good in drills, so I don't think making a handful of nice plays in drills will be enough. Hodgins will have to shine when we get into full on practices and shine quickly as there wont be many of those before roster cuts.

I still think Duke has a legit shot to make the week 1 roster. Locks are obvious...Diggs, Brown, Beasley. Near locks are also obvious...Davis and Roberts. But I think they keep 6, and even though Hodgins has flashed too, I just do not think in a season with no preseason and a very limited camp they will keep two rookies on the active roster each week, especially with COVID being a threat to knock anyone out ahead of them and forcing them into more playing time. IMO, I think its more likely Hodgins will go to PS and a 6th WR will be kept out of Duke, McKenzie, and Foster...and Foster is missing time again, McKenzie is more a gadget specialist that we have other guys who can already run those plays. Duke at least represents a larger catch radius for Redzone and third down possessions. So, if one of those 3 are kept, I think Duke may be creating some momentum for his case right now. Its nothing against Hodgins, I am quite intrigued by him and I love what I am hearing about him so far, but just think its going to be a long road for him to make the roster under this years circumstances and the depth of talent we have in the room now. Think this camp favors the player who knows the offense already and system when there is a close battle. And McD and his staff tend to like to bring rookies along slower and I can see more of a Foster like path for Hodgins where he starts on the PS and will get his shot potentially later in the year if one of the other guys get hurt or are not getting the job done. I don't really care either way, I just want them to make the best moves for the team, and Beane and McD earned my full trust in them, so whatever they decide is fine with me too.

Remember all the reports of Mahomes INT's in his first training camp as the starter just before he won MVP. LOL. Never understood the over reaction, good and bad, to just some drills and camp work. There has never been a QB who started a full season thats thrown 0 interceptions. But with Josh, every time he throws one in practice or a game its made into this huge deal by certain people on this board or the media as if its happening at a league leading rate, which its no where close to that.

Agreed. Can’t believe we are still talking about Clowney for two full off seasons because some unsubstantiated twitter rumors 18 months ago. If he was coming to Buffalo, he would already be here and we wouldn’t have signed two good DE’s and drafted a stud prospect. People need to move on. Clowney ain’t coming to Buffalo this year and Tupac ain’t making a resurrection.

He probably could have as a bell cow RB getting a lot of carries. But 1000 yards isn't that special anymore and he would have likely barely broken 1000 yards and our run game would have been less effective. I have no issue with Gore saying this, I mean 1000 yards is only 62.5 yards per game. As long as Gore did not get hurt, he definitely could have put up 63 yards a game as a feature runner. HOWEVER...63 yards a game would have been a pretty weak run game, which is why they switched to Devin to get more pop, more chunk yards, fresh legs, etc. And Gore was very respectful about it, he was not complaining, just talking about what he believes his own abilities were last year. Gore was a class act here IMO and was just him stating he felt he was still capable of 1000 yard season last year despite his age. And he's not wrong about that IMO, although, his 1000 yard season would have meant a lesser overall run offense for us because Devin was the fresher and better option the 2nd half of last year for the team.

Yup, and that’s why you can’t rely only on stat sheets. And I agree and even said in another post in this thread that I think they bring Harry along slowly because we have great depth and he won’t have the benefit of a full camp (in terms of true football work due to COVID restrictions) or a preseason to really test his recovery and work his way back. I will also say, I’ve never trusted a coaching staff and front office staff as much as I trust this one. So totally agree there too