Alphadawg7

I wouldn’t be surprised. Howard might be one of the most disrespected players in the league. He’s much better than he gets credit for. I think he and Singletary would be a potent duo. IMO, people are too enamored with break away speed rather than moving the chains. Howard moves chains. And Devin may not have elite speed, but he is plenty fast enough and more importantly game fast and averaged 5.1 ypc for a reason.

I don’t think they would, that was just a witty response and fun

Ah gotcha, that I would agree with too. I don’t think there is any need to send two firsts either, nor would I with this draft being so rich at WR. Our staff has drafted very strong, so I would not want to give up an additional first even for Hopkins. But I would certainly send #22 this year for him.

This got me, literally started laughing. Nice work

@ALLEN1QB I said send our #22 pick for Hopkins. You gave skeptical response. Are you saying you’re skeptical that wouldn’t be enough or skeptical he’s worth that? Cant imagine anyone not willing to send our first for him and his reasonable contract for his talent level.

I’d send #22 in a heartbeat for him. ????????????

If they could have gotten a 3rd pick, they would have. Not like they turned it down for a 5th lol

He’s 34, they all hit cliffs. Manning was great in 2014 with 39 TDs and 15 Ints. In 2105 he had just 9 TDs and 17 ints. And he played a way less physical position. 34 is pretty old for a DE. And once again he’s coming off his third worst statistical season of his long career. Is he going to magically find the fountain of youth at 34 in a new system and double his sack totals? I mean come on, it’s not realistic and it’s more like the will have a similar or worse season.

Just like Ziggy was gonna be so key last year too right? Peyton Manning was elite every year until that one year he wasn’t. All players hit a cliff. 34 years old for a DE is old. Their are no assurances he will be nearly as good as you and others are making him out to be next year. And sorry, some of you are exaggerating him right now in terms of last year. I get it, people know his name. But doesn’t mean he’s as elite as some are making him out to be. He has just TWO double digit sack seasons in his whole career. His sack totals went down each year in Jax too, including just 6.5 last year after he had his best statistical season as a pro his first year there. He is no where close to the best DE option in this years market nor is his 6.5 sacks hard to find. And now he will be even a year older and on a new team so good chance he doesn’t even match last years numbers. So IMO, some of you are over reacting to a player who at this stage of his career is being over exaggerated.

BREAKING NEWS: Free Agency and the Draft have NOT happened yet. Not to mention, trades can happen anytime still too. Geezus, why are so many people dwelling on this as if we missed our ONLY chance to get a DE end this year as if there was no Comparable or better option than 34 year old DE on a 2 year contract? R.E.L.A.X. Beane and McD have on many occasions stressed how Edge is one of the most important and highest paid positions after the quarterback position. So I think it’s pretty clear they will prioritize the position and will be focused on finding some good help there this offseason given Shaq seems likely to leave and Hughes is getting up there in age himself.

Tom wasn’t 97 years old for the last decade. McD and Beane wasn’t our coach and GM for the last decade. This current roster wasn’t our roster for the last decade. This obsession to look backwards into things irrelevant today to make decelerations about tomorrow is a waste of time. We should have beat them both times this year. Going into this next season we are a serious contender to win the division with or without Tom Brady. The lowly Dolphins beat them in a must win game for NE this past season, and yet you think we are guaranteed 2 losses??? Sorry your post you’re defending was ridiculous.

But we don’t need a one year rental. We aren’t 1 34 year old DE from a SB. And everyone freaking out about this hasn’t considered we haven’t begun FA or draft yet. How do you know we won’t find a better and longer term player? I mean, I’m not losing sleep we didn’t pickup a 34 DE for one year.

Yeah this isn’t a move that would be good for us. People worried about Hughes getting older yet he’s older than Hughes and has a big contract.

I like all these same guys too, and same concerns about Shenault after also previously being sure he would be the pick. I also have Higgins and Jefferson pretty close as well. I also think Mims is a good prospect as well and wouldn’t be shocked if he was picked at 22. But if I had to place a bet on what WR we would pick if we did go WR and stayed put at 22 (Big 3 off the board too), then I would put the odds as: Higgins: -120 Jefferson: +100 Mims: +220 Shenault: +400 Basically today, I have Higgins a slight favorite over Jefferson. BUT: If say Juedy or Lamb slip to Atlanta, I think Beane hits the phone looking to move up. Im also not ruling out taking taking someone else at another position at 22 or even trading up for day Chaisson if he slips near our pick either. But if I’m just assuming we take a WR at 22, I have a feeling Higgins is a slight front runner right now.

Probably paid her to do this to try and repair his image of his public feuding with her.

For the record, if you run under 4.59 or better in the 40, you are fast enough to be potentially still be an Elite WR still in the NFL. If you are a talented route runner and excel in catching, body position, etc your 40 time isn’t the end all be all. Hopkins and Thomas both ran 4.57 for example as I said earlier. I’m not saying don’t try and find speed at WR, but it’s just over focused on to find these amazing 40 times. I mean we have speed in John Brown, so it’s not like if we drafted a guy like Higgins we are suddenly “slow” at wideout. People are so enamored with “speed” yet when you look around the league there are Elite WRs at all speed ranges including between 4.50 and 4.59 currently and throughout history. Game speed and straight line 40 speed with no gear on are very different. Is having elite speed like sub 4.4 nice, sure is. But it also doesn’t mean squat to your success if you don’t run consistent routes, if you can’t beat press coverage, if you can’t make contested catches, if you have shaky hands, etc. This obsession of focusing so hard on 40 times is an unreliable and misleading way to evaluate a WR. Now if you are good in other areas and blazing fast, well even better and that could be a special player. But it’s not the end all be all it’s blown up to be if a WR isn’t challenging speed records. Look at last year alone on our own team. So many people pissed and moaned about the Singletary pick and said he was slow over his 40 time despite looking fast and explosive in game film. Yet he averaged 5.1 YPC as a rookie because he’s very good in all aspects of the game and that makes him game fast. I want a 6’3” stud who runs a 4.35 forty as much as anyone, but that’s a rare find and it ain’t the only way to find an impact WR. PS: We had our chance last year at that guy and we passed...see: Metcalf, DK.

When I say physical I am referencing Boldin type of physical. I agree he’s physical at point of attack and uses body position to do versus out muscling guys. Higgins has some of that in his game too IMO. Thomas is more physical overall than Hopkins.

I think he’s a possibility in the 2nd. And he would be a great 1-2 punch with Singletary if he lasted to our pick and took him.

Certainly possible, but I still think one of those big 3 WRs drop to 16. Let’s hope I am right and let’s hope it’s Lamb or Juedy ?

This is my exact stance too. I think Beane is hitting phones hard if Lamb of Juedy hits Falcons pick. And in a copy cat league where Tyreek Hill is an elite player on current SB winning team, I think it’s quite possible Ruggs is one of the first 2 WRs taken. And if so there is a reasonable possibility that one of Lamb or Juedy could reach Falcons pick at 16 in that case. I can’t see all 3 top 3 WRs coming off the board in first 15 picks. It’s possible, but I don’t think very likely as I expect some of the tackles and over reaching on QBs to help push at least one to 16. But even so, I would expect some competition for that pick or one in that range to go get the WR still there. Like Eagles for instance.

I don’t hate this. I think he’s a potential depth guy and now will be healthy for camp and again. He either makes a case to make the roster, or easy cut still.

Totally agree, which is why I said he is smooth. He’s excellent route runner and using body position rather than physicality. Higgins reminds me of Hopkins and think that’s who he best compares to at the next level in terms of type/style of play. Of course doesn’t mean he will be as good as Hopkins, just saying when people look for a top NFL comparison, it’s who he reminds me of. Honestly do not understand the hate for Higgins. Truthfully, of all the guys expected to go in first 2 rounds, there isn’t a WR the Bills could take in that range where I’d be upset.

That’s a fair counterpoint, length of contract I could see being different. But also, there is value to him not locking in a longer deal at a lower price given his high level of play prior to the bad luck last 2 years. And given his last injury was a less concerning one (in terms of lingering) chest injury, I am willing to be bet he’s got self confidence that he’s not going to be injury prone and may prefer a shorter deal to prove that so he can get paid more like his talent level in a year or two. I mean he really needs that big contract in next two years before he starts getting higher in age and won’t ever see it. This will already be his 7th season.

Hopkins is not physical. He’s smooth. Thomas has definitely got some physical aspects of his game. But Higgins is great at high pointing himself. He’s made a lot of contested catches. All I’m saying is that people can criticize whatever they want about him, but it’s factually incorrect to say he’s not fast enough for the NFL.

I don’t disagree with that, but I wouldn’t under estimate our facilities with how much the players have raved about it and how much it’s helped their careers. A guy coming off 9 games in 2 seasons isn’t gonna get paid what he’s worth talent wise, so I think the offers are all going to be reasonably close to each other in value. So I don’t expect Bills offer to much lower (if even lower) than say the best offer, so I do still think the potential to prove he can stay healthy to get that bigger deal next will play a large role in his decision.