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I don’t think it’s that they are after signing both to the roster, more that they are after a RB and are eyeing one of these two. Haha then again I didn’t think they would spend $25m a year in two TEs who combined average leas than a 1000 yards together. I figured they would keep Burkhead and let White leave.

Well you should listen to Beane more, he’s been spot on every year on his plans.

Yeah, and Beane said he wanted him back, but it was Milano who wanted to test the market. Beane was always interested in resigning him, and I think you are correct that Milano wasn’t seeing that much more in FA, so he chose to stay here and came to terms in the range Beane was comfortable with. I mean it’s no secret the guys here now love this team and staff, so if Milano wasn’t gonna make much more there wasn’t an incentive to leave.

Why are we confusing trades with free agency? Not the same thing at all. In fee agency, Beane did exactly what he said he would do last year

I don’t think there is anything wrong with your opinion, and mostly agree with it too. But there are not a lot of guys who fit that description, and for me, my higher priority is the TE being a weapon given Dabolls system. Im not sure I follow that he’s a tweener though, he’s not small. He doesn’t have say the weight of a good blocking TE, but we wouldn’t be signing him to for that role.

Yeah I’m thinking he’s targeting $8m range with incentives personally, and I’m cool with that. I could stomach $10m, but I doubt he goes over $10m for any TE out there.

Daboll is very creative, I can see him having Beasley out there as well. They don’t always line him in the slot and move him around a lot.

What!? Is this a serious question? Why on earth would be give up a 2nd for Tonyan?

Yet Beane does exactly what he says year after year. So, not believing him would be proven incorrect many times over at this point. So you can choose to not believe him, but it’s just making you incorrect in your expectations.

He’s a beast, athletic beast. A small DB isn’t going to cover Garrett effectively. Trust me, I loved him out of college and Rams are my second team. I’ve watched a lot of him, he’s better than you think.

Good luck covering Everett with a small DB. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not willing to over pay Everett. I’d be cool with $8M, but I don’t really want to hit double digits just because of cap reasons. But, if you want a TE to block, you don’t have to put both Knox and Everett out there. You can sign a TE who is more of a pass blocker for those situations, they are cheap. But releasing both Knox and Everett on the play would be tough to defend.

Bunch of stories on Twitter saying they are showing interest in both Fournette and Carson. That would be a bit of a surprise to me as I thought they really liked Damien Harris and still have Michel and Burkhead.

Im just saying this was all stated by Beane long before FA. Wasn’t more a point just at the OP, more a general comment to everyone who seem to still be in denial or shock we haven’t done anything.

How is this just now becoming obvious when it’s verbatim to what Beane said since the season ended? His focus was on retaining our own and there wouldn’t be any real big splashy FA expenditures.

Well if he’s a decent #2, that would means he’s a very good #4 which is exactly what he would have been here. And also why he wasn’t going to come here.

Me too, and the he duo of Everett as TE1 and Knox as TE2 would be a nightmare matchup in terms of athleticism. Add in having to cover Beasley out of the slot and Diggs, not to mention spying Allen and that’s a lot of pressure from a 2 TE set you can put on the defense.

Fun facts: Pats just made two TE’s the third highest paid TE’s in the NFL (they both got $12.5 per season for 4 and 3 years) that respectively average 350 yards a season and 580 yards a season. That is $25m a year to them for averaging less than 1000 yards a season combined. Jonnu has never even reached 500 yards, and Hunter never reached 700 yards despite playing with much better QBs than NE has. I mean that is crazy amount of money for them IMO. These guys are not in the same class as Gronk and Hernandez combo was.

Everett is a significant upgrade to Knox in the passing game. Pairing his athleticism with Allen would be a mismatch all over the field. He’s not a dynamic blocker, but he’s also not as bad as advertised. We can always sign a blocking TE for more run game support. And given Daboll is back, I’m not expecting the offense to be a lot different in philosophy next year, so I think the fact he’s got potential to a major threat for Allen in the passing game is more important attribute. I don’t think Beane will pay any TE that kind of money this year.

I should add, as much as I want to sign Everett, I do NOT want to sign him to anything close to what Henry or Jonnu got. I’d much rather spend that much cap on other positions. But I also don’t think Beane would even offer that much money and use our status as a major SB run as a sweetener combined with a more fair contract. I really do not believe Beane is going to over pay to get him here. So if we sign him, I expect it’s going to be a reasonable contract.

You can still add a blocking TE. Everett isn’t as bad as it’s made out to be at blocking, but his strength is definitely as a receiver. He would be a major weapon for Allen IMO and he was my favorite FA TE this year.

He’s at $13M a season!? Can’t say I saw that coming for him, especially in a lower cap year. That’s a lot of money for a WR that wouldn’t start on a lot of teams in the NFL. I mean Nelson would be 4th on the depth chart here behind Diggs, Beaz and Davis. And if we still had Smoke, then Nelson would be 5th here. When I saw the signing I assumed it was like a 2 year deal around $18m or something. And even then I was like meh.

He’s a better receiver than Knox. Seen a lot of him here in LA, they just had a lot of weapons including another very good TE as well. He’s not going to be a dominant blocker, but he would be a more reliable and dynamic upgrade over Knox in the passing game. He was the most athletic TE on the free agent market this year.

All true as well. Also, it’s no secret that we struggled to cover Kelce, so very well could be a move he sees as a chance to exploit something in our D to help them compete for the division crown here. Maybe it’s because most the years the Pats won the SB they had marginal WRs and an elite TE...and the years they lost the SB was when they had there best WR groups. Lol

This tweet doesn’t mean it’s the Bills, he just listed other playoffs teams. So I’m not gonna get excited until there is a real link to the Bills.

Im not enamored with them signing both TE’s to so much money. Dont get me wrong, both are good players, but I also think both are a bit over rated, and they just over paid. I mean when you add in backups, they will be around $26m+ invested just at TE of their cap. That’s a lot. I will say this though, if there is a team who knows how to utilize two TE’s best it’s NE, so I’m sure they will get solid production out of them. But that’s just a lot of money to invest in these two guys who are both now the 3rd and 4th highest paid TEs in the league.