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My 2 Cents: While I love it when a troll gets a taste of his own medicine. BUT...what do we really have to troll here? Chiefs and Mahomes have been to 3 straight AFCCG...Bills made 1. Mahomes 3 time MVP finalist, with one MVP. Allen, 1 time MVP finalist, no MVPs. Chiefs 2 consecutive SB's, 1 win and 1 SB MVP for Mahomes...Bills no SB appearances. Mahomes and Chiefs are 2-0 against Allen and Bills (both this year), including the AFCCG to reach the SB. I love Allen and the future of the Bills. And truthfully if I could do it all over again, I wouldn't change anything as I would honestly take Tre, Allen, and Edmunds over just Mahomes for the long term. Allen is closing in on Mahomes (and was just made for Buffalo and couldn't be happier he is our QB) and Tre is an elite first team All Pro DB...that alone is worth it to me, plus regardless of ones feelings on Edmunds, he still is a 2x Pro Bowler who still has a lot more ceiling left. BUT...facts are facts. In my book, you can't troll someone whose climbed to the highest peaks of the mountain before you've ever reached the top of the same mountain. When he first joined, his banter was very worthy of getting banned no doubt. But, maybe I just have not seen enough his posts lately, but its been a while since I felt his antics, posts, etc were worthy of being banned. I can even recall him giving kudos to the Bills and Allen as we continued our ascension. Again, I dont "follow" him, but just cant think of a moment lately where I saw something the said and felt he said or did something that was worthy of being banned. Ive always been pretty certain (based on when he first arrived) that Zerovoltz is really Jeffismagic who rightfully got banned under that name for his antics here. Is that what you are referring to as well?

Bahahahahahahaha. You win. The award for most ridiculous reply of the off season. Yes I know the off-season still has like 7 more months left, but no way someone tops the absurdity of this reply.

What a ridiculous comment, easily worst of this thread. I guess you missed the part where our receivers were blanketed most the game and how our defense let Kelce and Hill run free the whole game. Somehow you attribute all that to Josh for the game not being closer. I guess them dominating the trenches both sides of the ball is all Allen’s fault too. Ive been following your posts and man, you really don’t know what you are taking about in this thread. You will say anything to just try and discredit Allen. He had a excellent season. He finished 2nd in MVP voting. He set all kinds of records. He did NOT have 2 “terrible” playoff games. Baltimore game the winds were a horrendous problem and made even the greatest FG kicker of all time have a bad game, Lamar had poor stats too. I mean it’s utterly absurd to call Josh game terrible when he led us to a a double digit win in really bad winds affecting the ability to throw for everyone. And against a tough defense. This is why people call you a troll. You provide no logical insight and ignore stats and facts and just keep pushing your narrative. You are crazy if there are many QBs you would trade Josh for. He’s straight up top 5 right now and if there was a redraft of whole league he would certainly be drafted top 5 and likely either 2nd or third overall.

Let’s look at the key factors: 1 - Browns season can’t be fairly judge by the stats sheet, he battled injuries and as a result all of our guys in Diggs, Cole, and Davis had career high years making up for his absence. And when he got back, those guys were already in rhythm with Josh and the offense. He is a lot better player for this team than what the stat sheet would say. 2 - Davis had an impressive rookie debut and there is reason to have optimism of him starting opposite Diggs. That being said, we also don’t really know if him or Brown would make the bigger impact opposite Diggs over a full season. 3 - Bills will need to look at ways to get some cap relief this season to make some moves to make upgrades necessary to take the next step and knock the Chiefs off. And Brown does offer them an opportunity to do that and at a position we have 2 studs at (Diggs is stud outside and Cole is stud in slot) and Davis who looks like he is going to be a good WR too. 4 - In 2019 Brown stayed healthy mostly and in 2020 his injury history reared its self again. At 31, the odds of getting hurt aren’t going down, so his cap hit is an even bigger risk next year as that’s a lot of money on a team with a tight cap hit to be sitting on the sidelines if he struggles with injuries. For me, looking at the key factors, I do see it as a real possibility they could cut Brown for cap reasons, but it’s also not a lock either. Brown and Diggs together is something we didn’t get to see enough of with Brown slowed by injuries. I could see Beane restructuring Brown as much as I can see them making him a cap casualty. And if they offered him a chance to stay on a lesser deal, I have a feeling Brown would be quite interested in staying here with Josh and a chance to challenge for a Super Bowl. Brown > Stills: So I hope they find a way to keep him. But I also have confidence in Davis, so I won’t panic if they had to cut him for cap reasons.

Well dont leave us all in suspense, what is this other topic? This mystery is the most interesting thing about this thread here lol

I didn't say they would have had to target a QB. I mean they reached the SB with Goff already once before. And this year Goff was hurt and played hurt in the playoffs too. With a healthy Goff next year and some focus on improving the OL in the draft and FA, they could have got right back into the SB hunt again. Don't get me wrong, I am not defending Goff here, I have long said I don't believe in him and think he is soft. So I get Stafford is an upgrade over him and agree with that. The question is, will Stafford be enough of an upgrade to have paid that much. And Stafford has his owns risks...dealt with some injury issues, his not far from his mid 30's, and under his time in Detroit they haven't won a lot, even when Detroit had good defenses. They also frequently blew games where they had 2 score leads, etc. Not all of that is on Stafford by any means, the point is this isn't a slam dunk, and if he turns out to not be enough, Rams are going to be one of those poser contenders at best for the next several years as they have a tough cap situation moving forward. Don't forget, the Rams OL isn't great and part of the reason Goff regressed some from those first 2 break out years that led to a SB birth. I am not condemning Stafford, as a Rams fan (my 2nd team...albeit a distant second) I would love to see this work for them. And it very well could work out great. Just saying they mortgaged their future for the next 2 years...how many times has that worked in the past for teams in the NFL? Not often, so it was a big gamble still.

Couple of things: Its true, first round picks are grossly over valued by just about everyone, especially around here. In every draft, more than half the picks will most likely miss and its not uncommon to see 2/3rds or more miss. However, grossly missing from the above argument is cap implications between a first round pick and an established star worthy of a first round pick or more. Rookie deals are going to be substantially cheaper for the first 4 to 5 years on those picks. Where as an established player worthy of a first round pick is either going to be nearing a new expensive deal or already in one and take up much more cap space. Established stars are not a lock to equal their production on the new team either yet come with a substantial bigger hit. Stafford for example...this guy has never proven to be an Elite QB. He very well could enter that conversation and be the best version of himself with the Rams, but there is no guarantee of that. While I will concede that Stafford is better than Goff, there is a legit question about whether or not he is enough of an upgrade to shed 2 firsts and a third from a team already with cap issues. There are plenty of times big name players got traded for a lot and then never lived up to that compensation. All that being said, 2 obvious things stand out for me in this trade: Lions got about as good a package possible for Stafford landing 3 quality picks including 2 firsts along with a young QB whose at least been to a SB and put up some stats previously for the Rams. And the Rams are all in for trying to win in the next 2 years a Super Bowl and are gambling their future to do so. The question is, will it work for the Rams...and its not really been a winning approach for teams in the past to essentially try and buy a Super Bowl by spending big on FA's and trading away all their premium picks for players. For me, the biggest concern for the Rams is their forward looking cap issues and not having quality draft assets to try and land talent on cheaper rookie deals. If Stafford ends up being the missing piece and enough of an upgrade to get them a SB, then its all worth it. If not, then the Rams may flail in that "SB contender...but not really" category every year for the foreseeable future.

As a massive fan of football, I have an appreciation at the marvel of what a 43 year old QB has accomplished this year and over his career for that matter. We are witnessing history that’s not likely to ever be repeated and for that I have respect and appreciation for what is unfolding. So yeah, I’m all for Brady winning, but I also don’t really care much about the outcome of this game, and way more interested in wining my squares pools and bets. I will also take pleasure in remembering BB face and posture in the post game interview after we curb stomped the Pats the second game and take pleasure in picturing him slouching and sulking in his lounge chair at home the same way watching Brady win the SB without him while he didn’t even make the playoffs. I’ll always hate the Pats more than I hate Brady. So anything that makes the Pats look worse is A-OK in my book.

So cut our entire DL and magically replace them with what? Lol

Anyone know where we are currently at heading into the offseason with our cap space? How much cap space do we have right now?

And more importantly, Josh was playing hurt in those bad games with a shoulder brace on.

Dude for real. People complain and just want to be negative around here. That moment of him on the field was special and should have everyone even more amped about him. Yet people were peeing in his cereal saying he was grandstanding was such a bunch of BS. This team and staff couldn’t love Diggs more as a teammate and the feeling is clearly mutual. He will not be holding out for money after Beane just immediately did right by him renegotiating him already when he got here to give him more money and us more cap flexibility to put the best team around him. To speculate this holdout is just silly to me.

This ☝️ Football is such a violent game and a risk, I seriously doubt players want to risk injury heading into their offseason for a meaningless game they don’t care about. The last thing a player wants to do is spend their offseason recovering from a serious injury.

I was one of those people that have been on the Josh Allen bandwagon since draft night. Ridiculed many times for pointing out all the significant improvements in short bursts. I never understood why others just didnt want to see what was right there in terms of all the significant improvements Josh kept making in short windows. The jump just in the work he put in leading up to the draft made a dramatic difference. His second half of rookie year was leaps and bounds better than his first half before he got hurt. Last year, his deep ball was atrocious first half the season but started to significantly improve second half. And if not for so many dropped passes he would have been a 60% passer last year, not to mention the early season deep ball woes had not been there when he was like 1-30 on deep passes. The kid just kept getting better and better in front of our eyes, but some wanted to hold on to the doubts to the bitter end I guess. I mean his accuracy took a big jump all over the field last year except for his deep ball. This year shouldn't have been a surprise, many of us said all off season he was going to be well into the 60's this year, especially after trading for Diggs. At least I am $100 richer as one poster bet me he wouldn't break 60% this year and he paid it a week early even with enthusiasm as he was thrilled Josh proved his doubts wrong. The kid is just special...cant wait to watch his career blossom even more next year and every year after!

No offense, but 0% chance we sign a top end WR. First, we dont need it. And 2, we cant afford it. Not even sure why anyone would even speculate on this, has almost no chance of happening. Also, not sure why you would call it the "Marquez-Valdez-Scantling role"...why would you want to sign someone like Kenny to play the role of a less talented and less used WR? I do see us adding a TE, someone like Ertz makes a lot of sense for the right price. WHAT!? Lol, who in their right mind would think we would cut Beasley, let alone want us to? Never happening.

You didn’t really address my points at all and just resorted to your blanket statements again. Since you cited Steelers first rounds only, McBeane has had just 4 drafts (Beane specifically has had 3). Well McD/Beane have parlayed 4 first round picks into: Tre White - (elite DB) Josh Allen - (MVP finalist and Pro Bowler) Tremaine Edmunds - (2 pro bowls in first 3 seasons) Ed Oliver - (starting DT) Stefon Diggs - (via trade, first team all pro and number 1 WR in rec and yards first year here). You’re not impressed with the use of our first round picks during the McBeane era? Sorry but someone would be crazy to dissatisfied with that and I can’t think of any organization that has had a better 4 year run in using their first round picks during Beane’s time here. Tre was finalist for DPOY, Allen and Diggs put up MVP level seasons, Edmunds has made 2 pro bowls. Oliver is only one who hasn’t truly broken out yet, but he still has a ton of upside but badly needs some more beef next to him before we know what his ceiling can be.

Where do people come up with these statements? Are you kidding? Most of our AFC East champion and AFCCG team was built through the draft. Find me a team that has had so many draft picks come in and turn the team around in the last 4 years than the Bills. Just one. I mean first year we drafted guys like Tre, Dawkins and Milano...one draft. Thats 3 studs. Not to mention following that up with Allen and Edmunds to go with Phillips, Taron, and Wyatt Teller in that draft (who has become a top end OL even though its not on our team anymore). Then in 2019 we add Oliver, Ford, Singletary, Knox...all 4 of which are starting for this team. In 2020 we flipped a first round pick for Diggs, and added Moss, Davis, and Bass who all played big roles on this team this year as rookies, not to mention flashes from 7th Rond pick Dane Jackson and the potential still of AJ Espenesa. There is a reason Beane is a front runner for GM of the year, hes earned it by building a team through the draft mostly (last 3 drafts) and finding good values in FA to plug other holes and also having the guts to make a big trade for Diggs. If you think that draft history above is weak, well then I don't know what to tell you. I promise you any team in the NFL would LOVVVVE that draft history result over the past 4 seasons.

Hmmmm...seems to me that if you take Rodgers off of GB and Mahomes off KC that neither makes the playoffs. Saying an elite QB is the difference between being one of the worst/best teams in the league is kind of a pointless statement. Our roster is actually better top to bottom than GB's and probably as good as KC's top to bottom. There is a reason we won 13 games and made it to the AFCCG. This whole notion that our roster somehow sucks now because the game didnt go our way is just over exaggeration. End of the day, the game was decided on just a handful of plays. Not allowing our TD at end of half forcing us to take 3, the missed XP played a big factor, and again not converting in the 3rd on 3rd and short in the Redzone. The gap was not as big as people are making it out to be. To be honest, our OC was out played by their DC and also our DC was outplayed by their OC. Talent to talent, we are not that far apart from top to bottom on the roster.

Maybe you missed the part where Mahomes got hurt and Henne came in and immediately threw a bad INT that allowed Cle to get back into the game? End of the day, Cleveland couldn't keep moving the chains when it mattered...just like us. We stalled multiple times in the Redzone, an area we excelled in all year. We would start moving the ball and then all of a sudden they would lock down all our receivers a couple plays in a row and stall our drive. We don't miss the XP and convert in the Redzone for a TD before the half, and this is an entirely different game. People look at the final score and yet miss just how close we were to making this game a dog fight to the end. Honestly, Daboll looked totally unprepared for the defensive looks the Chiefs gave us. There is a reason he felt the need to apologize to some of our guys because he was out coached Sunday the Chiefs DC. We all know KC offense is going to score points, to be competitive with them we have to score too when we have our opportunities. The missed XP was further compounded when McD mistakenly decides to go for 2 and doesnt get it making it a 3 score game instead of a 2 score game (16) if he had just kicked the XP.

People are over reacting to one game. First, the real reason we lost this game was simply because KC secondary and pass coverage was by FAR the best game they played all year. Their red zone defense was close to the worst in the NFL this year and we were the best in the Redzone, yet they managed to hold up several times with was the difference in the game. Never have I seen our receivers down field completely blanketed like that for much of the game. Yes, Hill and Kelce killed us, but they kill most teams. We knew that going in. What no one really expected was the elite play of the secondary and stiff Redzone defense, at least not at the levels they played on Sunday. If we play that game 10 times, no way that secondary and Redzone defense holds up that well in all those games. It is what it is, hats off to the Chiefs, their defense came up huge for them Sunday. So...we dont need to tear apart our team or have a complete shift in philosophy on how Beane builds this team. They will make some roster decisions related to the cap and then they will target replacements and add some pieces where we need help. I expect some BEEF to be added to our DL and that to be the top priority this offseason, and wouldn't be surprised to see some people acquired via trade, FA, or draft to challenge to start at CB, TE, and in the trenches.

I totally agree with you, but in regards to Knox I just haven’t seen enough to feel confident in him being TE1 next year. Doesn’t mean he can’t break out or keep improving, but I would love to see us bring in someone like Ertz as a veteran leader for the kid.

Here is what too many fail to realize...We need BEEF in the middle of the DL in the worst way and without it, BOTH Oliver and Edmunds jobs are a lot harder to do. I see people mentioning that about Oliver, but they also dont realize the impact it has on the LB's when the DL is easily manhandled in front of them because they are under sized. It allows more blockers to get out on Edmunds, other holes to open up making the LB now out of position, etc. I mean Edmunds just made back to back Pro Bowls, is young, and has plenty of ceiling left in front of him. Oliver, I am not sold on, but he has shown enough last year next to Star that makes me want to see more of him next to a true 1TDT. My guess, the top 5 priority list of the offseason is going to look something like this for FA, trades and Draft: DT - Hard to imagine this not being the top priority TE - Knox I think is a quality #2 guy, but he is not starter level. Maybe he gets there one day, but there should be some nice TE's available via trade or FA this offseason, and I think Beane could go get one. RB - While I know they like Devin and Moss, I think that its clear we need someone explosive with good hands to at least compliment them or be our lead back. CB - Norman was a 1 year deal, dont see him coming back. I can see them bringing someone in to challenge Levi for starting job opposite Tre DE - Murphy will be gone, and Espenesa is unproven still to go along with our old vets in Hughes and Addison. So I expect they will either add some depth here in FA, or draft one, possibly first 2 rounds if someone they covet is on the board.

Was just coming here to post this. This is what a competitor looks like. His fire and drive were no doubt a big part of our rise and it’s just only the beginning.

Weird...pretty sure some peeps said I was crazy when I suggested Watson could be traded and crazier when I said Jets would be a likely landing spot.

GOOD LFG!!!!!!