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Who said anything about being frightened? I am just not interested in seeing people directly in our path to the SB getting better, or someone we might face in the SB get better. There is not a roster in the NFL that Gilmore doesn't make better. Does not mean it makes them invincible or people need to panic, but its clearly in our best interest that people in our path did not get better. I don't think anyone believes the Panthers are true SB contenders right now. Doesn't mean its impossible, but I would rather see him go there rather than one of the other top teams in the league.

Yes I am fully aware of the Sherman signing and was even before it was official that they had been talking to him, and of course I watched him play. Are you aware that they were talking to Sherman for a little while prior to signing him? Because they were. Now the second part of your question...I dont know if I am reading this wrong or what, but it sure seems like you are suggesting the possibility that BB tipped off Brady that Gilmore was gonna be available, and because the Bucs chose to sign Sherman (which was last week by the way before Gilmore stuff are out) that is some how evidence that Gilmore is not any good anymore. Is that really what you are trying to suggest right now? If so, that is really really really a stretch, and literally makes no sense on any level given the fact BB has no interest in helping Brady right now, and the Bucs were a team that expressed interest in signing Gilmore if he was released so clearly Sherman signing would have no relevancy at all to what they thought about Gilmore. So maybe I am misreading your post, but it sure seems like that is one heck of a story you are trying to sell to some how spin Gilmore isn't any good anymore.

As others stated, this was a best case scenario for the Bills. Didn't go to someone in our path to the SB like KC or other AFC contender. Didn't got to one of the favorites in the NFC to make the SB that we could face like the Bucs or Packers for instance. And while the Pats did get something back for him instead of nothing, its just a 6th. Good for Gilmore and good for the Panthers. They lost Horn and now bring in Gilmore whose even better to help what has been an impressive defense thus far through the season. They definitely got better and only cost them a 6th. Panthers are on a good path right now, and while I don't really expect them to reach the SB this year, they certainly are one of those second tier teams that could be troublesome come playoff time. Especially if McCaffrey can stay healthy in the playoffs and the defense keeps playing well.

No disrespect, but I whole heartedly disagree. Its not because I think so, its because the entire NFL thinks so. No one in the NFL would leave Gilmore off their top 10 CB list right now, not one player, GM, or coach. Its not a personal opinion, its a matter of fact. And there are plenty that would still list him top 5. He was a very good DB when he played in on bad to marginal teams in Buffalo and went on to become Elite in NE as he continue to mature as a player. But there are people here over exaggeration things over their personal dislike of him from things said after he left to discredit his ability as a player, and thats just silly IMO. I am not saying I am above error, I am saying its pretty silly to infer that Gilmore isn't still a great player and one of the better defensive backs in the NFL still. Especially since most of that stems from people being butt hurt over things said after he left still and playing for our rival and arch enemy in New England. I get it if people have personal dislike of him, and that is fine, everyone is entitled to like or dislike who ever they choose. But turning that personal dislike into an inaccurate portrayal of his ability as a player is silly and isn't based on unbiased and accurate football analysis.

Ok, so now that the dust has settled, it seems to mostly be about him not playing as well as the guys around him and not fitting into the DC's defense the way he wanted. Some questions about his effort or commitment too have been thrown out, but nothing really confirmed about that. Here is my take...One of my absolute favorite things about our team and staff is their ability to get the most out of players. Sometimes a player just needs a change of scenery, a better structure, and a coaching staff that is invested in the kids development. And IMHO, we are among the best in the league, if not the best, at providing that type of environment. So for me, I would kick the tires here and see about bringing this kid in and seeing if he can develop. However, that is easier said than done, I mean it was really challenging to find a way to get to the 53 man roster prior to week 1 as it was. This is not an easy team to make, so to bring him in someone needs to go, and that person is likely a good ST contributor looking at the roster of where they could make room. But still, I think we would be one of the best places for him to land to see if he can get back to reaching his potential. But I also won't lose any sleep over this at all and both don't care if we sign him, and also don't think we will. Just saying, I wouldn't be upset if we did because I think our staff our culture is just that good.

Anyone here remotely suggesting Gilmore wouldn't be a good signing is losing credibility as an informed poster. Gilmore is a top 10 corner in this league still without question, and I assure you there are plenty that will list him top 5 still across the league who actually are on the field with this guy. Ive been quite impressed with Levi Wallace thus far (albeit his first true test, well for him and our whole defense) is coming this week, but through 4 games he has played excellent. That being said, I would absolutely welcome Gilmore to the team if Bills had interest and he was willing to come back. So while I don't at this moment feel desperate to sign him, I certainly have absolutely no doubt he makes our team better and increases our SB chances. And lets be real, our dominant D has looked sensational against inferior opponents, but the last time our defense faced a lethal offense it was atrocious (Chiefs playoffs last year). And while our defense seems to be much improved with Star back and the new pass rushers out there, they have yet to be truly tested to have full confidence in our ability to win this weekend against the Chiefs. All that being said, I do doubt he wants to come back to Buffalo based on things said since his departure here, and I am not even sure Beane will have interest given how well our defense has played despite its not really truly been tested against a top offense and QB yet. He will have no shortage of suitors, he is still a top CB who would immediately be one of the best players on the defense for whatever team he signs with.

The big question is WHY??? Off field issue?

To be fair, the Chiefs are already 2-3 in their last 5 games

Well written article actually and spot on. Very stupid for him to bring this crap back up heading into the biggest game and test of the season.

I fully agree with you on that, it’s stupid to keep this alive on social media.

Absolutley. They need to get him to just shut up about it, he’s said his piece already, no value in continuing to say all this crap on social media, he’s not changing anyones mind and no one is changing his.

I don’t necessarily even disagree with you. But for me, I want to win more than I want to be right about some controversial topic. So I’d rather have no distractions on game day for one of our best players or any other teammates. He’s not even the only one not vaxxed on the team, so I’d prefer to leave it for off the field. But that’s just my 2 cents

Star is, and always has been very good. But, let’s also not forget Brisket, Heineken, and Nills were the 3 QBs we faced. Yes all intentional misspellings. We cooked one, drove one to drink, and got nothing from the other. But again, Star matters a lot to this defense, always has. We are a much better defense when he is on the field.

Beasley is in a Twitter convo with Mark Cuban. It’s interesting back and forth right now. Beasley said people right behind the bench are booing him and talking s**t telling him to get vaccinated and stuff. I don’t in any way agree with any of his tweets and comments about vaccination, but come on, on football Sunday it’s game time. He’s a Buffalo Bill and when he’s on that field politics and differing opinions shouldn’t matter any more. His views are stupid, but that doesn’t make him a bad person, it makes him misinformed. So IMHO opinion, leave it be during the games and root for this team and everyone on it to play well. So far, his stance hasn’t caused any issues for the team or other players other than the personal backlash he receives on social media for his ill-advised comments. So until something happens that hurts the team or the players around him, I don’t really see the need to boo or harass him during the games.

If you had “7 page thread about whether Besley is getting boo’d” after a blow out win on your 2021 TSW bingo card then kudos, you win.

He was also a walk on in college at Alabama as well. Great story overall

Levi was excellent today too

You must be fun at parties 🙄

It was all my fault. It was my first game in Buffalo ever and the football gods felt it was only appropriate for me to experience some of the pain that all of the local Bills Mafia had to go through for the better part of 20 years. Sorry.

I thought this was yet another stellar performance by Levi. He’s quietly having a great season so far. Week 1 he got too much grief on the TD and PI, especially when he tipped the ball away on the TD and WR just made a sensational play to still catch it and get two feet down. It was excellent coverage by Levi though. And the PI was also excellent coverage and the ball was just poorly thrown making chase come back for it creating the contact. Again his coverage on the play was very good too. But he’s been great otherwise IMHO. Now we haven’t exactly faced a dangerous group of QBs so far, and next will be a big test for not only him but our whole defense. In the meantime, kudos to Levi for his play thus far.

Agreed on Knox, but I think he had one drop in week 1 or 2 if not mistaken. Other than that, he’s been great and made some amazing catches too

For some of us , this was more of the same we have seen from Star as he’s always been quite valuable to our defensive front since he’s been here. Last year was painful not having him.

Calling it now: This thread will be short because Edmunds had a great game and there’s nothing for others to complain about.

And the one that was good, they traded away despite being so young for some reason.

Same, and quite honestly not only is he my favorite Bill of all time (and I was a fan during the SB years), but he is literally my favorite NFL player to watch play the game since Barry Sanders. Even though I was a die hard Bills fan, and still obviously am, I loved watching Barry Sanders play because you knew at any given moment you were going to see something special that only he or few others could do. Thats how I feel about Josh. For example, never have I ever for a second had confidence in any team or player picking up a 3rd and 15, 3rd and 17, 3rd and 20, etc for example...at any level of football. But when we are staring down at 3rd and very long like that, I honestly feel like we are probably going to pick it up and I am almost surprised when we don't. His ability to improvise keeps every play exciting, and I just have so much fun watching him play. Adding into the fact just how amazing he is as a person, teammate, etc and its just impossible not to absolutely love this kid.