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I dont really disagree with this per se, I just think there is more upside than downside. By no risk, its a 1 year deal that based on the current pash rusher market is pretty inexpensive for a guy who has had his level of production especially (prior to injuries). I would have hated even a 2 year deal though to be fair. While I was living in LA, seen him play a lot, and I do think he has ability left in the tank if his body cooperates...but admittedly, that is a huge question mark given the last 3 seasons of injuries. I am not going to put percentages on anything, but I have seen plenty of injury prone guys or guys with recent bouts of injuries get past that before. And given its just a 1 year deal, we don't even need him to get permanently past it, just hold up one season...or more importantly, one post season as with Josh Allen here, we are going to always make the playoffs regardless to how much he plays in the regular season.

You mean the season where the Eagles had the best defense, top OL, and one of the greatest RB seasons of all time? The regular season where AJ Brown and Smith has their worst seasons as Eagles and only combined for just 1900 yards despite their massive contracts? That regular season?

Barkley did nothing in the SB. They won because they dominated the trenches

If you think that AJ Brown and Smith were “the reasons” the Eagles won the SB then I question your knowledge of football and how to analyze a football game.

That isn't what Barkley was paid this year when they won the SB. The Eagles are losing pieces this year as part of signing Barkley...and will Barkley hold up again is always a question given he has struggled with that in the past. And this list is NOT why they won the SB...they won the SB because they had the #1 defense and arguably the best OL in football. And that has more to do with them drafting well then "paying" offensive skill players. The offense didn't even have to do a lot, and Barkley did nothing in the Super Bowl. Dominating the trenches is what won them the SB and its not really debatable.

Agreed...I mean they havent made the playoffs in 2 years doing this. Miami didn't make the playoffs with huge deals for Hill, Waddle, and Tua and they have no playoff wins since all playing together and only made the playoffs as a 6th or 7th seed. Philly rebuilt their trenches and defense and added the best RB in football to get back to, and finally win, the SB. They dethroned the reigning back to back champs in a dominant fashion by dominating the trenches. Its astonishing to me how teams, and even so many people around here, just don't understand this undeniable fundamental fact of winning football. You wanna pay Chase, I get it...but to make Higgins he highest paid WR2 in history makes no sense. If Burrow is so good, he shouldn't need 2 WR's taking up nearly $70M in cap space. Pay Chase and fill in guys around him that compliment him and the offense via low cost veterans and through the draft. This is why you don't let your QB be your GM. I am going to LMFAO if they miss the playoffs again this year...and their division isn't getting any easier this year, nor is the AFC.

I don't know if he is washed or not, he is young enough still to bounce back, but also we don't know how his body can hold up given recent injury issues...but I will say this. Darius Slay looked totally washed 2 years ago and just had one of his best seasons and won the SB this past year at age 35. Bosa is still 29 and his biggest issue has been the injuries. If he can get past the injuries its not at all out of the question he could have a big bounce back year or even a few really good years still. Am I gonna bank on it, of course not...but a 1 year deal for just over $12M a year is a no risk really, but high reward type deal for us. So while I was against a Bosa signing when he was first cut because at 29 I figured someone was going to give him a multi-year deal and for a lot more money with how crazy contracts have been this off season. But as I said in that original thread, if he came cheap, then sure he can always be a rotational guy if need be with potential to bounce back. I just didn't expect him to come this cheap and especially on just a 1 year no risk deal. But, like he said in his presser, he wants a shot to win and he likes the football town aspect here too, so sounds like he prioritized that over money and length of deal.

Kenneth Grant please

If you go back and look at all the SB winners, they are not made up of all pro bowlers. Team make up is what matters most. How many pro bowlers on our OL? Yet its one of the best in football. How you put players on the field that fit your scheme, compliment the other players, etc all matters more than just adding talent. And Beane, while admittedly hasn't landed "elite" guys often, he is one of the best GM's in football at finding good to very good players, quality starters, quality depth, etc all over the draft, through affordable free agents, via trade, etc. The results are the highest scoring offense over the past 5 seasons, all time great offense this season, 2nd most wins to only KC over the past 5 years, 2 AFCCG's, 5 straight division titles, and a perennial SB contender. And we were a ref screw job away from getting to the SB this year. All coaches and GM has flaws, misses, etc. I feel like people talk about ours expecting perfection as the only acceptable thing.

This is just ones guys idea followed by all the reasons it won't happen.

This is a refreshing post and take...kudos to you, not enough of this happens around here. Setting your feelings about something aside to look at this on its own in a rational, unbiased, and fair light is a rare commodity on this board. Respect 🤜 🤛

The melt down in thread is wild. Beane is one of the 5 best GMs in the league and now people are melting down because a player he signed in which he could have no prior knowledge of, is suspended for something that happened prior to them signing here. Beane has still had an excellent offseason. Larry and his 1 year contract suddenly missing 6 unexpected games doesn’t change that.

First off, Beane only knew about one...having the other come out after the fact is no fault of Beanes, would have happened to any GM in the league that signed Larry. And Beane felt good enough about Hoecht and his situation to sign him anyway. Again, doing so not knowing that coincidentally a 2nd player was going to also face the same situation. So how exactly is it embarrassing? Beane made a calculated decision that based on what they knew about Hoecht and his potential suspension, that he still was worth signing. For a GM to be blindsided by a 2nd player in the same position, one he has no prior history with, not only wasn't even preventable by Beane, it literally is of no fault of his. Again, people are making way more drama out of this than it is. These are role player guys on top of all that, all is not lost, and clearly given Beane willfully signed one knowing this was coming.

So many drama queens in here talking like this is the end of the franchise.

I think this is more a depth signing and I still expect to draft one to compete to start at the very least, likely first 4 rounds and good chance first 2 rounds given we have no 3rd.

Ive been saying this for years and still 100% believe it...Beane is one of the best GM's in football. I think someone would be hard pressed to find 5 GM's who have a strong case to be better than him, so for me is a top 5 GM. A Super Bowl is all that is missing from him to cement his case for top 3. His ability to retain his own, and on good deals, find value all over the draft and outside the overpay rush of FA, and in getting more than expected back in trades is second to none IMHO. But, to be fair and unbiased, the one area he has not had enough success yet is landing elite talent. He has found good to even very good players in the draft and other avenues, but his only real hits on elite talent are Allen and Diggs via trade before Diggs was known as an elite player. In Beane's defense, its not always easy to do picking where we pick every year, and again, he has still found guys who have been good to very good starters for us, so not like he is out there whiffing most the time. Hopefully we can find a difference maker in the draft this year, and with fewer holes than we have had before and still having 10 picks, this is the year to be aggressive and move up more than move down to go get guys with a higher potential to be those difference makers. I felt strongly last year that BTJ was that player for us that we should go get if he got within a reasonable trade range (and he did)....now maybe Beane tried, but listenting to him it seemed trading back was the direction he was looking to do in order to get back the 3rd we used on Rasul. And I get the reasoning, I really do, I mean we had a ton of turnover and lost a lot of veteran leaders last year clearing out age and cap which felt like a mini reset year. So getting back more picks makes sense and can't really fault him just because a rookie taken before we picked hit big. This year is very different though...less holes...doorstep of the SB (really a ref screw job from the SB)...team ready to win right now with SB expectations. We don't need 10 picks or more picks...we need to get some impact players. I know Beane isn't afraid to trade up, and this year my BTJ of the draft is DT Kenneth Grant. We need a guy just like this and I am not at all convinced he last to our pick. Go get him Beane...and then look to be aggressive on the next 2 picks to get a starting CB and hopefully and another WR.

Amari - Has an entire history of a handful of big games and a bunch of mediocre to non existent games. The number of games in his career that he had under 40 yards is astounding for a player of his level. For me, there is now, and always has been, just another gear missing from him. His talent is there, but I just don't know he has that edge, that fire, to really maximize those talents all the time. And this is also why I think he drops so many passes, the mental focus, the mental tenacity just isn't there and I think the Bills saw that first hand last year. Don't get me wrong, its great when a player plays unselfish, buys into the system, etc...but you still want that player to WANT it. Shakir is a prime example...this guy is all about team and fully bought into everything here...but man, he WANTS it on every play. Doesn't matter if the ball is going to him or not, he wants the smoke in blocking, still getting open in case Josh needs to come off his reads, etc. Cooper to me just doesn't have that gear. And while he can get going at any time, its the lack of going so often that always concerns me with him. I said the same thing when the Cowboys gave him a huge contract (think it was $20M and highest WR contract at the time if not mistaken) a while back. It was just too much money for a guy who just so inconsistent week to week. He is consistent in his season totals because he is a guy that can put up some big games when he gets going. But week to week, that just doesn't happen enough IMHO and why I have never felt he was a top 10 WR. I wouldn't be mad if we brought him back, again, but he did so little here that the offense isn't going to miss him. So I would prefer to go get someone in the draft who has more long term upside and maybe brings more speed and explosiveness down field.

What is this thread? Is there some noise he is even available? My wife is a die hard Niners fan and I haven't heard anything about him even rumored to be available, and she has been totally distraught this offseason so far over the loss of so many players.

In Ray Davis lone start with Allen when Cook missed the Jets game: 20 Carries, 97 Yards (4.9 ypc), plus 3 receptions, 55 yards. He put up 153 yards on 23 touches. Then when he started week 17 with Allen out and Trubisky in when they were going to gear up to stop the run more than Mitch...he still put up 15 carries, 64 yards (4.3 ypc) and caught a 1 yard TD pass. I like Cook as much as the next guy, but IMHO Cook is more a product of his environment of playing with an explosive dual threat QB and an excellent OL. I think for a lot of teams in the NFL, Cook stats will look more pedestrian than they have here. So, I don't know we need a $15M a year RB to put up similar numbers to Cook. And honestly, Ty has proven to be a good change of pace and 3rd down back...him and Davis could be an effective duo with a rookie coming in to compete for touches, someone who compliments Davis similar to how Cook plays. Do I hope we can keep Cook...of course...he has done well here...but...do I want to over pay for the position, meaning, give a 2 down RB big money who struggles in pass protection so much that on the most important drive in the Allen era he wont even get on the field? No. My ceiling was, and still is $10M personally even though that was before some of these other RB contracts suggesting he should get more...and look, I am not even saying he hasn't earned it. I am talking strictly for the best make up of this football team...I would rather spend that money elsewhere as I have a lot of confidence that Davis, Ty, and a Rookie could have a similar year as to our RB room had last year. My hope: Gets 3 year deal for $30M (probably unrealistic at this point). What I more expect to happen: Signs here for more like $36M for 3 years with well over $20M guaranteed. If Cook digs in on $15M: I think he gets traded ahead of the draft. Beane doesn't strike me as someone that wants to get into a hardball standoff that leads to a holdout. I genuinely think he would rather grant Cook the opportunity to get that contract from someone else, not have this hanging over the team, and just look towards the future now if it becomes clear they just aren't going to get there on a contract. I also think this is why he drafted Ray Davis, he always seemed more like contingency plan if Cook's price got to high as Davis was one of the better RB prospects in the draft and had 3 down back potential.

Super Bowl.

You are not grumpy, you're just being accurate as to what they are today. But where I would counter with some optimism, is 2 of our safeties have potential to be more than that in Bishop and Forrest.

I agree with you about how all GM's have these kinds of busts periodically...and everything else you said, although I will add it can be crippling if the bust is a higher profile player like a QB, especially if they made a big investment to move up to get them. But, Kincaid and even Keon are way ahead of where Elam ever got already and far from busts. Kincaid had the 4th most receptions and 10th most yards all time in the NFL for a rookie TE for example. He may not have become the next Kelce as a receiving weapon yet, but he is far from a bust already. Keon already showed more as a rookie than someone who would be labeled a "bust" too. So I am just saying its pretty hard from them to bust in a fashion like Elam given what they have already done on the field.

Agreed...still think he has potential, but it was clear it wasn't happening here in this scheme. Good low risk, high reward move by Dallas while Bills still getting decent value back for a guy who hasn't done a whole lot yet.

Let me know when a WR in our offense gets the targets to do that in one playoff season. Rams force fed him that playoff season, he isn't that player still for one, and thats not our offense.

While I am not going to sit here and pretend I feel like our Safety woes are just instantly solved, but it does seem this kid has potential to be a Poyer-esque like signing. Where a change of scenery and opportunity helped Poyer be the best player he could be, and this regime has a strong track record when it comes to the secondary. He brings speed, youth, and potential starter on a low risk type deal.