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And Josh couldn't win at the college level either...its a mute point. Just like how guys who won in college have gone on to be terrible in the pros. I will judge the HC by what he does in the NFL. Right now, hes still a question mark, I am just not going to condemn him just on his college record alone.

Why cant they contend for a Super Bowl? They will have a good defense next year and an ascending offense. If Murray takes another step in his 3rd year like Josh did, they could be a very good team. Im not saying they are the favorite, but they are a team on the rise as long as one believes in Murray, and most do, including myself, that Murray should get better in his 3rd year.

No people are saying the Cardinals are not even a playoff team and the worst team in the division. And since when is a team being a "contender" suddenly a statement of being a "lock". You're just being absurd now and you know it. I said they are an ascending team...it was pretty clear what I said.

I get what you are saying...but we are fans here discussing the very thing. So my point was that it wasn't just my personal hot take, Kyle took a lot of heat for both Super Bowls by a lot of people, sports reporters, players, analysts, and fans. And I am not advocating for Klingsbury either, he is very much still a work in progress as a young coach before anyone knows what he is or isn't. I just didn't agree that Kyle is automatically substantially better as I think he still also has a lot to prove.

I didnt claim they were Super Bowl bound, what are you even talking about

Ok wanna make a wager that the Cardinals have a winning record in 2021?

Draft really depends on FA...especially if Milano leaves. I think there is a significant chance we go CB or OL round 1. However, if Milano leaves and we dont sign his replacement, LB becomes a very high priority. DT or Najee Harris could be in play there too, but I think it’s less likely. FA/Trades: I think guys like Leonard Williams, Dalvin Tomlinson, and Shelby Harris will be watched closely by Beane. I can see us adding a TE as well. Im not saying pass rush help won’t be looked at or added, but I think our two biggest issues are size/strength up front and controlling the LOS.

I am glad Star should be back, but his year off at his age concerns me to wear I’m not sold he can be the solution, although I hope he is. If we don’t get size in there, I expect more of the same issues on defense is the problem. So my top priority is the interior line where we got dominated a lot. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not against upgrading the pass rush, I’m just way more concerned about getting shoved around in the middle.

WE NEED DL BEEF MORE THAN A PASS RUSH. Bills were 6th in the NFL on QB Pressures last season. Out interior DL was pushed around and we frequently lost in the trenches. Not saying we can’t upgrade the pass rush, but we don’t have a ton of money to spend, and we MUST shore up the interior line with some size or we won’t see much change in our defense next year. It makes everyone’s jobs easier when you have space eaters taking on multiple blockers.

And then blew the game against a mediocre Texans team. I didn’t say they are an exact mirror, just similar positions.

I didn’t say he’s not a good offensive mind, but he’s twice choked on the biggest stage is my point. So he’s far from proven as a HC at this point. Plenty of coaches have reached Super Bowls that weren’t really that good of a coach overall long term and have gone on to even eventually be fired. So saying he’s made the SB, while also playing a significant role in blowing it twice (both as an OC and HC) doesn’t cement him as a great HC in my book is all I am saying. He may never make another one again, and I am pretty certain he won’t be making it back there in 2021.

Bills lost 4 of their last 5 games in 2019 including the playoff game.

Well once as a HC, the other as an OC and it was squarely on him for why he lost as an OC with some of the worst decisions in history allowing Pats the chance to rally back from a massive double digit deficit.

Sounds just like the Bills in 2019 before they went 13-3 after their young QB took a big step on year 3. Except AZ easily has the better defense on paper heading into their QBs third year.

But is it? Same hot take many had and most Niner fans I know hate Kyle. Flacons fans still despise him too. I mean there are countless articles about it, it’s not just my hot take. Here are hair a couple I quickly grabbed, but there are tons of these. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nfl/2020/2/2/21119688/super-bowl-2020-san-francisco-49ers-mistakes-kyle-shanahan https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.onlinegambling.com/news/kyle-shanahan-chokes-again-breaking-down-super-bowl-meltdown-2/amp/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/thefalconswire.usatoday.com/2020/02/03/atlanta-falcons-san-francisco-49ers-kyle-shanahan-twitter-roasted-super-bowl-54/amp/ Even when he got the job, questions were there because of the stupidity of his Atlanta play calling with a massive 2nd half lead against the Pats. https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2691483-super-bowl-debacle-should-give-49ers-second-thoughts-about-kyle-shanahan.amp.html PS: And you know I also respect you as a poster, so not being a jerk here, just showing you it’s not just my hot take as you put it

He called a very conservative offense fist half and left points off the board. He was heavily scrutinized for how he managed the game, especially the first half, and then for the second time he blew a double digit 4th quarter lead in the Super Bowl.

You mean the same Kyle Shannahan that literally blew 2 SB wins with his terrible coaching decisions? That Kyle? Klingsbury has a lot to prove still, but Kyle isn’t any more proven and choked on the biggest stage twice.

A far better coach? You mean the coach that blew not one, but TWO Super Bowls with terrible coaching decisions? I’m gonna have to disagree with that assessment on that alone. Not saying Klingsbury is great, but can’t say a guy who blew it in two Super Bowls as an OC then HC is far superior. Most Niners fans I know hate him.

All they need is a wildcard birth. Path to SB is much easier in the NFC than AFC. And the NFC west isn’t that tough as some are saying. Niners are a mediocre team with the worst QB in the division and their best players coming off bad injuries and some that will not be back next year like Sherman. Seattle was a mediocre team last year thanks to a pretty bad defense and bad OL, one so bad Wilson is unhappy and apparently wants out. Even if he stays, it’s clear him and Carrol are not on the same page right now. They dont have the assets or cap room to make significant improvements to what is a mediocre roster. Rams started over at QB and we dont know how that will play out either. Rams defense was not as good as its ranking either and has the makings of a unit that could fall out of the top 10 next year. They have two elite players on that D, but rest of unit lacks consistency. No one in that division scares me. Rams on paper have the most potential, but I would say the Cardinals right now are hands down the 2nd best roster heading into next year with the potential to win the division if (like with any young QB) Murray continues to take a step forward. Cardinals heading into next year remind me of where the Bills were heading into 2020.

And how exactly are the Niners better? They have a worse QB, most of their best players coming off serious injuries, losing some key members of the defense this offseason, and the Cardinals have a better overall offense. And after this offseason, a case can be made the Cardinals have the better defense. AZ defense is easily the second best in the division right now with the potential to be the best defense in that division. AZ has a very good offense that is improving each year and can easily finish first or second offensively this year. Sorry, but people are wrong about the Cardinals prospects next year and if Watt stays healthy, that defense is going to be very good.

My point is the Cardinals are an ascending team, people here acting like he signed with the Jets. Just about everyone believes Cardinals are up and coming and close to being a very good team. So for others to say he only cared about money is pretty short sighted evaluation of the Cardinals and sounds more like people mad their target date for the prom went with someone else

Are they though? Season is over, can’t base it on just last year. They are already better than Niners. Rams have a big question mark going to a new QB and how fast he picks up the new offense. Will he better enough to catapult them to real contender is still a question, not to mention Staffords injury history and the bad Rams OL. Seattle has a brewing QB issue and potential rift between QB and HC. I still think Wilson stays, but that Seahawk team wasn’t very good down the stretch and fielded a pretty bad defense.

AZ will do better than 8-8 over next 2 seasons assuming no major injuries to guys like Kyler.

One, I’m glad he went somewhere in the NFC and also that he’s not a Bill. I would have been excited for him if he signed here, dont get me wrong, but his cost, age and injury history are a concern plus he doesn’t fill our biggest hole on defense which is beef in the middle of the defense. We were 6th in the NFL in pressuring the QB last year and second fastest team in NFL in getting to QB behind only Steelers. But, AZ isn’t a bad choice for him. That’s a team on the rise that is expected to contend next year. Defense was solid already and offense is getting better each year as Kyler grows. So I wouldn’t say he did it only for the money, I mean warm weather and up and coming team, not mention D-Hop is there. Don’t be surprised if AZ wins that division next year.

1. I’m fine signing Watt, even with the injury and age risks. 2. BUT...that being said...Watt is far from our most pressing need though on defense. We were 6th in QB pressures last year and second fastest only to Pitt at getting to the QB. 3. Beef on the interior DL is substantially more important right now. I would rather spend the kind of money Watt is expected to get on some big beef in the middle of the DL. Not a slight on Watt, I’d be excited if he was a Bill. But I’m substantially more concerned about how we were frequently dominated in the trenches, especially right up the middle.