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One reason would be a lot of times when a team is "set" on their roster, they are also up against the cap if the roster is that good. Every year you will have FA's on your team you may not be able to always keep because of that, so being sure to bring in young cheaper talent can be essential to keep the roster consistently strong. Its what teams like the Steelers and Ravens have always been very good about doing and why they are consistently contenders for long periods of time. That being said, moving up is also definitely an option in these cases too, just saying having more draft assets still also has value to teams in those positions.

Reasonable reply yourself, but my only thing I would strongly disagree is the idea that Devin could be "cut". Nothing is impossible, but given Beanes ability to get draft assets for players who really are fringe roster players at best, there is just no way he doesn't trade Devin at that point and get some value back. Not saying you are suggesting he could be cut, your response was a little vague in that retrospect. But I have seen others say it before, and your reply kind of left room for that possibility. I dont think its impossible Devin could be traded though, but again, its only if we either A) Draft someone in first 2 rounds (highly doubt it though) or B) AW or Wade comes out and impresses enough to earn a full time roster spot. If either of those 2 scenarios do not happen, then Devin becomes a virtual lock for the roster. However, if either of them happen, he is 100% going to be on the hot seat and need to turn some heads and fight for his spot here.

The only way I think Devin would be a trade candidate is if either one of Antonio Williams or Christian Wade stand out and make a big case for the active roster. Breida has had injury issues and Moss is coming off one himself. Meanwhile Devin has done well and stayed on the field mostly. I personally don’t get the amount of heat Devin takes around here. His career YPC is very good, and he is elusive. Our run scheme is a much bigger issue than our RBs are in terms of rush yardage production. We are a pass first team and constantly running out of unconventional formations and our OL was terrible at run blocking out of these schemes last year. Im not saying Devin is like a top tier RB, but the kid has been effective and I’ve watched him pick up first downs and big chunk plays where most RBs would have lost yardage. He may not have elite speed, but he is very elusive and that impacts positive gains a lot more than straight line speed which is HIGHLY dependent on run blocking. I honestly feel like the Devin heat got turned up around here substantially because of the big screen drop he had in the playoffs. But a lot of players made a lot more mistakes than him that game that led to our demise. If he catches that screen it doesn’t change the outcome even if he scores. We literally could not remotely cover Hill and Kelce, and we were utterly dominated in the trenches...there was just no way we were going to win that way regardless of that play. So for me...I can see Devin potentially being expendable if they feel that AW or Wade has earned themselves a spot and want one on the active roster. Otherwise, we are gonna roll with the trio of Devin, Moss, and Breida this year IMHO.

Yeah, he was pretty darn good at LT, so his versatility is something teams will covet. I’ve watched a lot of USC living here in So Cal, and he’s been a guy I’ve had my eye on for us this draft. And we already know our staff loves versatility on the OL, so if he somehow manages to slide to us, I think it’s a no brainer pick for us. If he makes it past the Jets, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Beane start exploring a small trade up as he gets closer to our pick, similar to Ford. I think he’s that good of a fit here and will be high on Beanes board as our pick approaches. But like you, I believe he doesn’t last. I honestly think he is going to be the Jets pick if he makes it to them, and I think there is a good chance he does. I haven’t seen your mock yet, but I’ll go check it out soon today. Always enjoy them and your thoughts.

Thanks. I love him, I’ve been hoping he will fall to the Bills at 30, but I don’t see him making it past the Jets. Although, most thought Cody Ford wouldn’t slide out of the first and he slid to us in the 2nd. I know DL, CB, or RB is a hot choice for the Bills in the first, but if he somehow manages to fall to us at 30, I think Beane runs to the podium to take him. Im not enamored with too many guys on the DL at 30, and I think the DBs worth taking there are also likely gone before we pick. And I seriously doubt Bills go RB at 30 after signing Breida and still having both Devin and Moss along with some interesting potential still in AW and Wade. Jets could go CB or RB there too, but I think they will look to address the OL first to not repeat the same mistakes they made with Darnold.

Hahaha touché

Haha my bad, I was reading the proposed Bills trade posts and had Bills pick on my mind haha. My bad. Was too early in the morning apparently before my coffee haha.

Sorry, my bad! I copy and pasted the wrong one off my list. Meant my boy Alijah Vera-Tucker from USC. I edited it already. lmao, I get up this early every day naturally. I don’t like more than 5 to 6 hours of sleep. The pick is easy, I literally made a draft board list in Evernote on my phone lol. I was just put on the clock at 3am while I was obviously in bed.

California. Woke up at 6:30am and it said I was on the clock and that post was made over 3 hours earlier. I literally went to bed at 1am and kept checking it all the way until then, but I still wasn’t on the clock.

With the 23rd pick in the 2021 NFL draft, the New York Jets select Alijah Vera-Tucker, OT/G USC Examining how poorly we managed to protect Darnold, and seeing how much better our divisional rivals built a line to expedite Josh Allen’s development into elite status, we easily came to decision that Slater with his ability and versatility to play multiple positions on the OL was the easy choice here. The unified message in our war room after picking QB Wilson was simply...”Dont f*** this one up, get the kid some protection”. The Steelers and @Dont Stop Billeivingare now on the clock.

This pick put me on the clock at 3am my time. Luckily I get up between 5:30 and 6:30 am everyday or May not have even seen it

Jets are excited about a few players here, but our phone is still open to listen to any potential trade offers given how poorly we have run this team for so long creating a lot of holes for us to consider

Sorry everyone, I was out of town and missed the start of this. I’m back now and ready for the next picks. For the record, I was gonna take Wilson anyway as I think that will be the Jets pick personally anyway. So whoever took him for me, good choice

Trentative Edwards, no doubt. What a wuss, and the TSW delusion around here that he was ever good at any point was beyond ridiculous. I dont know what was worse...watching him play or watching people foolishly try and make excuses for him and argue hes good...which at no point was he ever "good" on the field. Nathan Pickerman was a very close 2nd with similar delusion around here about him. Zay Jones would be my third. I didn't have as much disdain for him as I did the others, but man I hated his pathetic on field effort and weak play. He was soooooo soft on the field and mentally weak. Kelvin Benjamin would be my fourth choice. He was so entitled, lazy, soft, and played with no heart. I went from excited about him on the trade to counting the days until his fat behind was off this roster.

I swear, TSW wants us to sign every cut player whose name they recognize. I mean we just signed Breida and still have Moss and Singletary and some interesting prospects behind them already in Antonio Williams and Christian Wade. Wade is obviously still a long shot, but I would rather get AW and Wade more action in preseason to see where they are at as they have both flashed serious potential in the past, especially AW. And with Moss, Devin, and Breida likely all destined for the roster for sure, I dont think there is any reason to sign Giovani. Not to mention, I never really understand all the Gio love anyway, he has always been over rated IMO and there isnt a RB on our roster I would swap him for, not even AW or Wade as they got way more upside.

The one inner circle episode was pretty good, the rest of his 4 episodes were meh for sure. Step Brothers is probably the greatest comedy ever made. Anchorman? Tallidega Nights? These are hilarious too. I get some of his movies are not great like his Sherlock Holmes one was terrible, but Step Brothers and Anchorman are 2 of the best all time comedies IMO.

Will Ferrel is great, how can someone hate him? Lol

I think this is a great chance for Darnold to rebound his career. Doesnt mean he will, but the truth is for all his struggles, the Jets also did nothing correct with him...bad coaching, even publicly admitted by Gase himself, poor weapons and even worse OL, and just overall poorly run organization from all facets. Now he goes to a better staff and a very good stable of weapons. OL still needs work, but this is IMO a good move by the Panthers on a young kid with upside and a good fit for Darnold in both personnel and scheme. And Jets got a decent haul for him without having any leverage. They now got the draft assets to really rebuild...doesn't mean they will spend wisely, but at least they got good ammo next 2 years

I agree, usually quite the ride and loads of fun haha. Is this a good time to mention my perfect record though on starting "Hear me out" threads haha 🤣😂🤣. I've only started 2 though, the Zay Jones thread and last year when we were 7-3 and I started a hear me out thread about how we could win out and finish 13-3.

I would 100000% love to get Pitts and would absolutely draft him if we were in the top 10. But I just cant see trading a first and a young 2x pro bowl LB to move up for a TE. Especially since Ive seen so many of these big time TE prospects that just don't live up to expectations. But all that being said, I am on the same page with you on Pitts, he looks like the real deal. Still...Ive thought that before about certain TE's and it just never comes together while I watch the NFL elite come in to the NFL rounds 2 through 5. So I am not keen on trading away Edmunds to get up to get Pitts. I would be totally fine Beane trading draft assets to get Pitts, just not our first and Edmunds.

Edmunds - 2 Time Pro Bowler in 3 years. Trade him and a first for a TE prospect? How many next generational talent TEs have gone on to live up to the hype? Just to name a few: Ebron, OJ Howard, Hockenson all were considered to be in some can’t miss, super elite TE prospect categories. Meanwhile, OJ is third on the depth chart on his own team, Ebron has bounced around teams and had only one good year, and Hockenson is super inconsistent. And I can name a bunch more...just naming a few recent ones I remember Bills fans badly wanting to go trade up for or draft. Meanwhile the TE position has been utterly dominated by guys like Kelce, Graham, Gronk, Kittle, Ertz...all guys taken between rounds 2 and 5. Sorry, the idea of giving up a first and Edmunds for a TE is not appealing to me. Especially since we can just get Ertz for a 3rd if they really wanted and I can’t remember the last time a first round top TE prospect actually lived up to the hype.

Wow, those were all pretty bad.

Can you add me to the alert list? I always miss the signups and love this draft every year. Thanks bud

O/U on receiving yards for Sammy in 2021 I would put at 650 yards and I’d bet the under. I was one who believed in his talent, but he doesn’t have the fortitude, toughness, mental strength, or commitment to live up to that talent.

They were keen on Ed Oliver. Also were listed as high on Devin and Knox too. Just saying, it’s not all been wrong